What a change in the political forums

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    Sep 27, 2011 6:22 AM GMT
    since the conservatives came back.
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    Sep 27, 2011 9:13 AM GMT
    Yes, where would we be without people who claim Republicans are open and accepting of gays.
  • Bigolbear

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    Sep 27, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidsince the conservatives came back.


    What?!? The conservatives were gone?

    J/K

    I love a dramatic exit and even more so when it's done by a group.

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    Bigolbear saidI love a dramatic exit and even more so when it's done by a group.

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    Yes, it does appear to have been a coordinated effort, doesn't it? Unless they were all banned at once, which would be unprecedented here. Kinda gives the lie to their claim that their actions here are independent, challenging their denials that they aren't organized.

    I sensed that long ago, based on their parroting the same phrases, appearing to act in unison, in orchestrated assaults on some members. But when I suggested that, they attacked me as being paranoid & delusional, again, all using the same words.

    Well, unless they're willing to admit that they were all banned at once, which some here presume but I doubt, then you are correct. It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know.

    But a clique at the very least, and what one says, they all say, and now we know apparently by behind-the-scenes coordinated effort. Which is kind of disturbing, actually, at least to me.

    But still, not a violation of TOS/TOU as far as I can tell. Just important that we understand what we're dealing with here. Thanks for your observation.
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    Sep 27, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Well, unless they're willing to admit that they were all banned at once, which some here presume but I doubt, then you are correct. It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know.


    icon_rolleyes.gif Ohhh you poor pitiful thing. I see you have not taken any of the suggestions of the good doctor, CAJock753, who provided multiple facilities and/or organizations where you could seek counseling. If you aren't willing to help yourself, I'm not sure anyone else can either.
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    Art said, "It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know. "

    Art, they're individuals; they went to another site for a break. We were there as well. icon_wink.gif

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    Sep 27, 2011 3:45 PM GMT
    LOL - Freedomisntfree actually thinks he can be one of them! Haha.
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    Sep 27, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Art said, "It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know. "

    Art, they're individuals; they went to another site for a break. We were there as well. icon_wink.gif

    -Doug

    So you told us previously. How they all got there together at the same time, and how they all returned here at the same time, is the point I believe Bigolbear was making, and which I echoed. And you think they are not at least an ad hoc group?
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:02 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    Well, unless they're willing to admit that they were all banned at once, which some here presume but I doubt, then you are correct. It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know.

    icon_rolleyes.gif Ohhh you poor pitiful thing. I see you have not taken any of the suggestions of the good doctor, CAJock753, who provided multiple facilities and/or organizations where you could seek counseling. If you aren't willing to help yourself, I'm not sure anyone else can either.

    Thank you for proving my point about resorting to personal attacks when you get caught. You coordinated a walk-out on RJ, then all returned together. Does that not prove Bigolbear's post? Or did you all get banned together, as some here suppose? (Though I do not)
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Art said, "It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know. "

    Art, they're individuals; they went to another site for a break. We were there as well. icon_wink.gif

    -Doug


    I think Art described himself pretty well as "paranoid & delusional". I’ve now seen many posts by Art that lead me to believe that he’s not aware or doesn’t much care for the real world outside of Wilton Manners. He seems to choose to self segregate as much as possible.

    Art, we are NOT “right wing plants”, we just happen to reason differently than you, and at some point in your life, you have to come to terms with that. I can’t speak for the rest of the “clique” but not everything in our lives revolves around ‘gay’ or gay issues nor should it in my opinion.

    No, we not part of any coordinated group or clique, not that I would mind hanging out with any of them. It’s just that there are six or seven very active center right / conservatives in a forum of 302,000 members so we get noticed. I don’t know if that fits the definition of a clique or not, but I really haven’t had any off site email conversations with them or any contact outside of what everyone see here on the forums.
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:16 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
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    Art_Deco said
    Well, unless they're willing to admit that they were all banned at once, which some here presume but I doubt, then you are correct. It's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know.

    icon_rolleyes.gif Ohhh you poor pitiful thing. I see you have not taken any of the suggestions of the good doctor, CAJock753, who provided multiple facilities and/or organizations where you could seek counseling. If you aren't willing to help yourself, I'm not sure anyone else can either.

    Thank you for proving my point about resorting to personal attacks when you get caught. You coordinated a walk-out on RJ, then all returned together. Does that not prove Bigolbear's post? Or did you all get banned together, as some here suppose? (Though I do not)


    Art, you can barely get even one post up without an attack on republicans/conservatives/right wingers. What on earth are you talking about? If you're that thinned skinned then don't make ad hominem attacks yourself and you might just find less of it circling back to you. I know you think you can do this with impunity because you have the truth on your side. I hate to inform you, but a few here disagree so try respecting those who disagree with you.
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:32 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    So you told us previously. How they all got there together at the same time, and how they all returned here at the same time, is the point I believe Bigolbear was making, and which I echoed. And you think they are not at least an ad hoc group?



    Art, there is nothing ad-hoc about it. We are not a group. The best you could accurately say is that we are like-minded (on some issues) and we share that common ground. No one, at least not to my knowledge, other than Southbeach, got banned, and I think even that was only for a few hours. I stayed away for a week or so not for any organized effort, but because I was busy with work and needed to focus on that. I felt it was a good time because, frankly, I was quite disturbed that SB got banned. I didn't think it was warranted, and I let admin know it privately. It just seemed like a good time to take a break from the madness. You surely can understand how addictive RJ can become. Everyone needs a break from routines sometimes. You should try it icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    So you told us previously. How they all got there together at the same time, and how they all returned here at the same time, is the point I believe Bigolbear was making, and which I echoed. And you think they are not at least an ad hoc group?



    Art, there is nothing ad-hoc about it. We are not a group. The best you could accurately say is that we are like-minded (on some issues) and we share that common ground. No one, at least not to my knowledge, other than Southbeach, got banned, and I think even that was only for a few hours. I stayed away for a week or so not for any organized effort, but because I was busy with work and needed to focus on that. I felt it was a good time because, frankly, I was quite disturbed that SB got banned. I didn't think it was warranted, and I let admin know it privately. It just seemed like a good time to take a break from the madness. You surely can understand how addictive RJ can become. Everyone needs a break from routines sometimes. You should try it icon_wink.gif


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    Sep 27, 2011 4:43 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco saidIt's a perfect example of how we are not dealing with independent individuals, but with a coordinated group. Perhaps ad hoc, perhaps more formal and externally directed, that I can't know.



    How can you still have any doubts? I have stated to you over and over again that we are a team hired by the GOP. Our mission is to convert as many of the "crucial RJ vote" to Republicans prior to the 2012 elections. We operate out of a bunker in a red state somewhere in the middle of America.

    I've even posted a picture of the outside of our bunker many times. Here (below) is a picture of our alternate entrance to the bunker. What more evidence do you need?????

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    Thanks SB. That was great. That's in southern Indiana I'm sure.

    Hey SB, you still gonna make it our strategy planning session tonight. SoCal, Riddler and I are all going to be on time. CJAZ said he will be a few minutes late. Santorum also said that he will be a few minutes late because he has to pick up Bachmann and give her a ride. Cheney will also be there tonight and he's bringing our new security guard, Mary.
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    So you told us previously. How they all got there together at the same time, and how they all returned here at the same time, is the point I believe Bigolbear was making, and which I echoed. And you think they are not at least an ad hoc group?



    Art, there is nothing ad-hoc about it. We are not a group. The best you could accurately say is that we are like-minded (on some issues) and we share that common ground. No one, at least not to my knowledge, other than Southbeach, got banned, and I think even that was only for a few hours. I stayed away for a week or so not for any organized effort, but because I was busy with work and needed to focus on that. I felt it was a good time because, frankly, I was quite disturbed that SB got banned. I didn't think it was warranted, and I let admin know it privately. It just seemed like a good time to take a break from the madness. You surely can understand how addictive RJ can become. Everyone needs a break from routines sometimes. You should try it icon_wink.gif


    It seemed like more than you two. People who normally post here several new threads a day were all of a sudden not posting for days. What did all of those people have in common? I would say it's a certain political leaning.

    Now it's fine if you guys want to do that to prove some kind of point that you would be missed or that the board would be boring without you, but I think your quick return proved that it wouldn't be. As soon as someone pointed out that you guys were all "gone to a better site" I knew it would be a matter of days before you would be back. It's too hard to resist the drama. To now brush it off like it is coincidental and just a fluke is a bit shady. Then you add to it that you think Art is a total conspiracy theorist because he saw the same thing that most people on here were thinking... you guys love making him a target.
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    Sep 27, 2011 4:54 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said

    Thanks SB. That was great. That's in southern Indiana I'm sure.

    Hey SB, you still gonna make it our strategy planning session tonight. SoCal, Riddler and I are all going to be on time. CJAZ said he will be a few minutes late. Santorum also said that he will be a few minutes late because he has to pick up Bachmann and give her a ride. Cheney will also be there tonight and he's bringing our new security guard, Mary.



    Nope. My duty assignment has been changed. I'm now on "Wilton Manors Surveillance" patrol. But please don't share this with anyone else. It's classified A3+ level.



    That’s too bad because Santorum told me that he surveyed the entire country and he found another gay conservative. You never know about Rickey though, it could be a left wing plant so we have be very careful. But any event, Mary Cheney will make a hell of a security guard, and I’m glad Dick is bringing her because I don’t know if we have anymore room in the parking for her Subaru.
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:00 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Nope. My duty assignment has been changed. I'm now on "Wilton Manors Surveillance" patrol. But please don't share this with anyone else. It's classified A3+ level.




    I thought our fleet of Drones had that covered? Sheila, get Jim DeMint on the phone -- stat! What'ya mean you can't find him? Did you check the CHAT ROOM? icon_confused.gif
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
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    Nope. My duty assignment has been changed. I'm now on "Wilton Manors Surveillance" patrol. But please don't share this with anyone else. It's classified A3+ level.

    I thought our fleet of Drones had that covered? Sheila, get Jim DeMint on the phone -- stat! What'ya mean you can't find him? Did you check the CHAT ROOM? icon_confused.gif

    Careful what you say. As pointed out elsewhere some of these people have a sense of humor most recently measured at minus 7.2 on the richter scale. Except when carrying a huge rainbow flag, they are as colorful as the Politburo members who served under Leonid Brezhnev, have the same sense of humor, and also share many of the same economic ideas.
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:13 PM GMT
    The gay conservatives left RJ in protest of the repeal of DADT. They were foaming at the mouth that gays might actually gain some rights and the Republican party couldn't stop it. I guess its back to the drawing board for them on how to tear the gay community down.
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    Now that sounds like it could be an accurate portrayal of events.

    catfish5 saidThe gay conservatives left RJ in protest of the repeal of DADT. They were foaming at the mouth that gays might actually gain some rights and the Republican party couldn't stop it. I guess its back to the drawing board for them on how to tear the gay community down.
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:21 PM GMT
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    Nope. My duty assignment has been changed. I'm now on "Wilton Manors Surveillance" patrol. But please don't share this with anyone else. It's classified A3+ level.




    I thought our fleet of Drones had that covered? Sheila, get Jim DeMint on the phone -- stat! What'ya mean you can't find him? Did you check the CHAT ROOM? icon_confused.gif


    An did you see the way Mary shot that commie pinko lefty that tried to invade our meeting last time? Its too bad, I hear that Wilton Manners will never be the same again now that they lost one of their own. Man, is Mary good with a gun. I've never seen Dick so go-proud.
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:23 PM GMT
    Seems legit...y'all normally are preaching, screaming, and ranting about things that no one bothers to listen to anyways?

    Honest question Southbeach...are you a 21st century man? Are you living in the same time as the rest of us? How in the world, in this day and age, could you support a party (the Republican Party) that is obviously a sinking ship? Anyone with intelligence is bailing out and going independent. Don't bother trying to bring the Democrat Party into this because I'm not a (D). The (D) party has nothing to do with this conversation. So why the (R) party Southbeach? What in the world makes you think they are going to help us at all?

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    ConfederateGhost saidNow that sounds like it could be an accurate portrayal of events.

    catfish5 saidThe gay conservatives left RJ in protest of the repeal of DADT. They were foaming at the mouth that gays might actually gain some rights and the Republican party couldn't stop it. I guess its back to the drawing board for them on how to tear the gay community down.




    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Protest something without letting anyone know what it is you are protesting. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
    I can see you can't give an honest answer Southbeach...I figured as much but I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt. Doubt reinforced.

    Hook. Line. Party. That's all you are.

    I'm not gonna put you on block, but I am gonna just ignore your posts from here on out. You obviously have nothing to contribute other than pushing a party agenda.

    If you were sincere at all, about wanting to get this country out of the shithole both party's pushed us into - you would drop the whole party affiliation.

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    Sep 27, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    These guys are denying their coordination----IN A COORDINATED EFFORT. Let them continue to reveal themselves.

    There is one simple question that hasn't been answered by either CAJOCK753.....or by JockBod48. CAJ made the claim that he heard an interview that should end all discussion about the Booed Soldier.

    When I asked him for this interview, THE WHOLE GANG came in with jokes and other diversions. However, I asked again.

    This is when JockBod48 came in to claim that he had heard the interview and also "taped it". REALLY? Well he seems to have hoped that his claim of recording it would go uncontested...and thus end the doubts about CaJock753.

    But then TorrentPrime asked for details of this interview. NO ANSWER, of course.

    I have seen this behavior with online Republicans before. During the early days of Hurricane Katrina's devastation, EVERYONE was fairly it seemed attacking or at least questioning what the Bush administration was doing to help.

    This gay site, (Guys4Men), had one particularly eager Republican supporter. His credentials were that he was an active duty serviceman and HE KNEW THINGS THE REST OF US DID NOT.

    So during the Katrina disaster he was in forum posting overdrive----posting more than even Southbeach or SocalFitness could manage.

    He claimed to be in the midst of a humanitarian relief effort-----doing the work that the MSM was not telling us about. HE CLAIMED to be working 18 hour days with every hardship imaginable.

    Hmmm, one hardship had to have been posting long screeds against Democrats, every 5 minutes.

    AND THEN, he claims that he is doing all this work without electricity.

    "WITHOUT ELECTRICITY?" others asked. "How are you able to post here?"

    WELL, with that question his make-believe world came to an end. HE NEVER POSTED AGAIN.......at least not under that name and persona.
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    Sep 27, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidI can see you can't give an honest answer Southbeach...I figured as much but I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt. Doubt reinforced.

    Hook. Line. Party. That's all you are.

    I'm not gonna put you on block, but I am gonna just ignore your posts from here on out. You obviously have nothing to contribute other than pushing a party agenda.

    If you were sincere at all, about wanting to get this country out of the shithole both party's pushed us into - you would drop the whole party affiliation.



    "but I am gonna just ignore your posts from here on out."

    Fantastic. Be sure to put me on that list too.

    Thanks