President's first term--historically their best !?

  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 28, 2011 7:31 AM GMT
    Read this factoid as well, Jay Leno said on his monologue that US Presidents historically have their first term to be their best. He said "well folks these ARE the good times."

    It was funny, then sad, and true.icon_idea.gificon_lol.gificon_sad.gificon_idea.gif

    It is really time for change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Things can actually get worse. Time to stop the bleeding.
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    Sep 28, 2011 10:37 AM GMT
    He is already in full campaign mode. Just as well. He wasn't doing much good at his day job. Same pattern when he forgot about his Senate job just a few days into that to start campaigning. His strategy so far is to appeal to each minority group and labor to show how they are picked on and divide them from the others. To show his gutter politics doesn't work, he doesn't just need to get defeated, but thoroughly repudiated.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 28, 2011 10:47 AM GMT
    LOL ... Yeah ... remember Bush's first term? Ahh the good ole days

    When buildings were falling down and war atrocities were being committed
    Such sweet memories

    Oh you republicans ...SLAY me
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    Got anymore jokes? It's always good to start the day with a laugh
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    Sep 28, 2011 11:13 AM GMT
    GQjock saidLOL ... Yeah ... remember Bush's first term? Ahh the good ole days

    When buildings were falling down and war atrocities were being committed
    Such sweet memories

    Oh you republicans ...SLAY me
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    Got anymore jokes? It's always good to start the day with a laugh


    "SLAY me"

    Don't tempt us.

    Ahhh yes, the good old days. 4.4% GDP growth in 2004. We'll gladly take that again.

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  • GQjock

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    Sep 28, 2011 11:25 AM GMT
    Ahhh yes, the good old days. 4.4% GDP growth in 2004. We'll gladly take that again.

    Wow .... and wha happened ? Nov 2008? Care to remind me icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 28, 2011 12:15 PM GMT
    GQjock saidAhhh yes, the good old days. 4.4% GDP growth in 2004. We'll gladly take that again.

    Wow .... and wha happened ? Nov 2008? Care to remind me icon_rolleyes.gif

    I'll remind you. Good part of it resulted from the housing "situation". The parties included Dodd, Frank, Obama, Franklin Delano Raines, Freddie, Fannie, and even our friends at ACORN were involved. Don't forget McCain's speech on the Senate floor warning of the debacle. Can you connect the dots?
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    Sep 29, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
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    GQjock saidAhhh yes, the good old days. 4.4% GDP growth in 2004. We'll gladly take that again.

    Wow .... and wha happened ? Nov 2008? Care to remind me icon_rolleyes.gif

    I'll remind you. Good part of it resulted from the housing "situation". The parties included Dodd, Frank, Obama, Franklin Delano Raines, Freddie, Fannie, and even our friends at ACORN were involved. Don't forget McCain's speech on the Senate floor warning of the debacle. Can you connect the dots?


    Are you really that Freakin NUTS? or do you just Act that way?
    ACORN??????
    In the Housing situation???

    Your "Housing" situation was a clusterf**k of greed where banks and commodity houses played roulette and craps with mortgages where they camouflaged them and cut them up and sold them as triple A rated bonds when they were JUNK
    Google yourself a republican my friend and see what deregulation they sponsored
    http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2008/09/updated-summary-of-real-estate-boom.html

    In 1999, former Senator Phil Gramm (who is, incidentally, Senator John McCain's economic adviser and cochairs his presidential campaign) set out to completely gut the Glass-Steagall Act, and did so successfully, replacing most of its components with the new Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act: allowing commercial banks, investment banks, and insurers to merge (which would have violated antitrust laws under Glass-Steagall). Sen. Gramm was the driving force behind the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, as he had received over $4.6 million from the FIRE sector (Finance, Insurance and Real Estate donations) over the previous decade, and once the Act passed, an influx of "megamergers" took place among banks and insurance and securities companies, as if they had been eagerly awaiting the passage of Gramm's Act. Everything in between Glass-Steagall and Gramm-Leach-Bliley (i.e. Savings and Loan crisis/bust) was, in large part, the incubation period for what would take place over the nine years that would follow the passage of Gramm's Act: an experiment in deregulation.

    Not only that you had brokers throwing these bonds around like they were hot cakes .... leveraging them and playing them up like they were poker chips on a black jack table all the while having Insurance companies holding the bag

    ................................ Remember AIG How much did we have to give them because they were too big to fail?

    So Please ...don't try and give me the republican song and dance
    and that Obama had something to do with this

    ........................ It don't pass in these parts my friend icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 29, 2011 1:09 AM GMT
    GQjock said...So Please ...don't try and give me the republican song and dance and that Obama had something to do with this

    ........................ It don't pass in these parts my friend icon_wink.gif

    You're totally in over your head. No one denies the culpability of the Administration at the time, but the role of the Democrats, including Obama, is clear, as is the warning from McCain, all documented. Also documented is the millions Raines took out, based upon the books having been cooked. Also documented is Raines' relationship with Obama. This was also discussed extensively on RJ in August 2010. Save your trouble copying paragraphs or trying to BS. Doesn't fly and I won't waste any time with it.
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    socalfitness said
    GQjock saidAhhh yes, the good old days. 4.4% GDP growth in 2004. We'll gladly take that again.

    Wow .... and wha happened ? Nov 2008? Care to remind me icon_rolleyes.gif

    I'll remind you. Good part of it resulted from the housing "situation". The parties included Dodd, Frank, Obama, Franklin Delano Raines, Freddie, Fannie, and even our friends at ACORN were involved. Don't forget McCain's speech on the Senate floor warning of the debacle. Can you connect the dots?


    Are you really that Freakin NUTS? or do you just Act that way?
    ACORN??????
    In the Housing situation???

    Your "Housing" situation was a clusterf**k of greed where banks and commodity houses played roulette and craps with mortgages where they camouflaged them and cut them up and sold them as triple A rated bonds when they were JUNK
    Google yourself a republican my friend and see what deregulation they sponsored
    http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2008/09/updated-summary-of-real-estate-boom.html

    In 1999, former Senator Phil Gramm (who is, incidentally, Senator John McCain's economic adviser and cochairs his presidential campaign) set out to completely gut the Glass-Steagall Act, and did so successfully, replacing most of its components with the new Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act: allowing commercial banks, investment banks, and insurers to merge (which would have violated antitrust laws under Glass-Steagall). Sen. Gramm was the driving force behind the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, as he had received over $4.6 million from the FIRE sector (Finance, Insurance and Real Estate donations) over the previous decade, and once the Act passed, an influx of "megamergers" took place among banks and insurance and securities companies, as if they had been eagerly awaiting the passage of Gramm's Act. Everything in between Glass-Steagall and Gramm-Leach-Bliley (i.e. Savings and Loan crisis/bust) was, in large part, the incubation period for what would take place over the nine years that would follow the passage of Gramm's Act: an experiment in deregulation.

    Not only that you had brokers throwing these bonds around like they were hot cakes .... leveraging them and playing them up like they were poker chips on a black jack table all the while having Insurance companies holding the bag

    ................................ Remember AIG How much did we have to give them because they were too big to fail?

    So Please ...don't try and give me the republican song and dance
    and that Obama had something to do with this

    ........................ It don't pass in these parts my friend icon_wink.gif


    And what president of what party signed this and by what vote margin did it pass? At least W made some attempt to do something about it

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/business/new-agency-proposed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html

    Too bad it got block by primarily one group in congress



    So Please ...don't try and give me the democrat song and dance
    and that its all Bush's fault

    ........................ It don't pass in these parts my friend
  • GQjock

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    Sep 29, 2011 1:35 AM GMT
    LOL ......

    Sweetheart - In my post did the NAME Bush even come up?

    There ARE PLENTY of republicans to go around
    You can try and deny it
    but this Bud's on you fellas ...... you wanted deregulation ?

    Well you GOT IT .... in spades
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 29, 2011 3:57 AM GMT
    Obamacare-will be his downfall. icon_idea.gif Does anyone really want the feds controlling healthcare. We live in the greatest free country based on free enterprise-not free insurance.icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 29, 2011 4:47 AM GMT
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    So true of many republicans nowadays. Patriotic to their party and no other! Keep goose stepping in the same direction fellas. Maybe you can drag the rest of the country down with you...oh, never mind! You've already done that!

    Colbert said it best, " we all know reality has a liberal bias!"
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    So true of many republicans nowadays. Patriotic to their party and no other! Keep goose stepping in the same direction fellas. Maybe you can drag the rest of the country down with you...oh, never mind! You've already done that!

    Colbert said it best, " we all know reality has a liberal bias!"


    So as an example you show Gore, Maher and Olberman? Better stick to the gym - you won't get hurt there.
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    Sep 29, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    GQjock saidLOL ......

    Sweetheart - In my post did the NAME Bush even come up?

    There ARE PLENTY of republicans to go around
    You can try and deny it
    but this Bud's on you fellas ...... you wanted deregulation ?

    Well you GOT IT .... in spades


    Buttercup, I'll make whatever point I care to make. Thank you.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 29, 2011 8:36 AM GMT
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    MikemikeMike saidObamacare-will be his downfall. icon_idea.gif Does anyone really want the feds controlling healthcare. We live in the greatest free country based on free enterprise-not free insurance.icon_cool.gif

    Yes, do explain that very carefully to everyone with a pre-existing condition. Say the words slowly and clearly to everyone who had their insurance rescinded because the insurance company decided it would rather not pay for expensive treatments.


    My ex had a pre-existing condition and we fought the insurance company and won. She had a lousy HMO and they dropped her. As long as you have a Dr. (not the one you're going to) write a letter or make a statement saying it is a medical necessity you can overturn a decision. It took alot of hard work on my part, but I felt it was worth it. We did it without an attorney and I went right to appeals by writing their coporate offices. Of couse they denied it three times, but eventually we won. I had to be organized, dilligent and unyielding. The problem with today's society people want everything for nothing. Did you realize you could petition your insurance company or a prospective company?? Did you ever try? Thank-God I worked my ass off in order to have great medical coverage-no managed care BS. In life it is always important to have a plan B. I also grew up learning, and knowing that a credit card should be used for convenience. I never carry a balance. If you can't afford to pay something off in 30 days don't buy it. I never lived above my means even when I was young and didn't have jack shit You will find alot of the people complaining about no insurance still have money for cigarettes, booze, drugs, cable, going out, and the best cell phone and computer money can buy. FACTicon_idea.gif If all else fails or you have no help or little mony go to a Catholic Hospital for treatment-they will not turn away the sick.
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  • GQjock

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    Sep 29, 2011 10:45 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    GQjock saidLOL ......

    Sweetheart - In my post did the NAME Bush even come up?

    There ARE PLENTY of republicans to go around
    You can try and deny it
    but this Bud's on you fellas ...... you wanted deregulation ?

    Well you GOT IT .... in spades


    Buttercup, I'll make whatever point I care to make. Thank you.


    It's a free country

    I can say that Unicorns are in the Bronx zoo too
    But sayin it doesn't make it true ... now does it? icon_wink.gif