Sep 28, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
Rick Perry says YES!! And says republicans who dont agree are heartless!!
CuriousJockAZ saidMany Republicans do NOT agree with Rick Perry on this. In fact, I suspect many Americans, regardless of their political party affiliation, don't either
catfish5 saidCuriousJockAZ saidMany Republicans do NOT agree with Rick Perry on this. In fact, I suspect many Americans, regardless of their political party affiliation, don't either
So you are heartless?
CuriousJockAZ saidcatfish5 saidCuriousJockAZ saidMany Republicans do NOT agree with Rick Perry on this. In fact, I suspect many Americans, regardless of their political party affiliation, don't either
So you are heartless?
No, I just don't happen to think states should be dangling a carrot like "in state tuition" as a magnet for illegal aliens to come here. Would much rather the state focus on LEGAL aliens in the state who need assistance getting a higher education.
PresentMind saidI would suggest "brainless" rather than "heartless".
First thing to consider is that the Instate Tuition Program isn't going to every child of illegal immigrants. THESE KIDS HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES in both character, discipline and scholastic abilities.
THESE KIDS ARE A GOOD INVESTMENT. Texas is smart to give this incentive to nurture their best and brightest.
Big Question: Is this program in any way keeping out equally qualified children of documented Texas residents?
catfish5 said
I agree with Perry on this. It is an investment.
CuriousJockAZ saidcatfish5 said
I agree with Perry on this. It is an investment.
I don't disagree with what Perry's "intentions" are on this. What I disagree with is that our good intentions are not more focused on U.S. citizens who more rightly deserve that "investment" rather than people who are here illegally.
CuriousJockAZ saidcatfish5 said
I agree with Perry on this. It is an investment.
I don't disagree with what Perry's "intentions" are on this. What I disagree with is that our good intentions are not more focused on U.S. citizens who more rightly deserve that "investment" rather than people who are here illegally.
commoncoll saidCuriousJockAZ saidcatfish5 said
I agree with Perry on this. It is an investment.
I don't disagree with what Perry's "intentions" are on this. What I disagree with is that our good intentions are not more focused on U.S. citizens who more rightly deserve that "investment" rather than people who are here illegally.
Instate students already receive instate tuition. There are very few illegal students in colleges, I doubt the amount of out of state tuition fees the universities can collect from them is a significant amount.
I agree. It is an investment. And children of illegal workers deserve to have the same rights as any other child in their community. In fact, many times they are harder workers than other legal residents. They also do no grow up on food stamps and other such programs.
PresentMind saidmocktwinkie says
"That is single-handedly the most outright... brazenly dishonest statement I've ever seen in my life. And here I thought I had seen it all.
For your information, I know an illegal family from Venezuela personally where the kids are illegal...."
Mock, you need to do a little better than cite one example, even if this from your personal experience.
CommonColl, Likewise, I doubt anyone can say that there are none of these kids on any type of gov't assistance.
BUT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE to Texas' program ?
I agree that we need to restrict immigration but what is the alternative plan for coping with these kids once they are here??? LET THEM STARVE? DENY THEM AN EDUCATION even if they strive for it and prove themselves???
For me, the only question is whether documented citizens are getting denied education incentives because of this program.
Anyone got facts on that question?
tailgater_3 saidi think in-state tution for non-documented students needs b based on several factors. 1) the length of residence in said state; 2) record of paying taxes in said state; and, 3) criminal record if any. IF they resided in the state for longer than say 10 years, payed local, state, and federal taxes, and have no criminal record, then i have no problem with them paying in-state tuition.
meninlove said
My worthless Canadian two-cents:
I feel they shouldn't.
Their children, born in the US, should.
Fourteenth amendment?
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
PresentMind saidtailgater_3 saidi think in-state tution for non-documented students needs b based on several factors. 1) the length of residence in said state; 2) record of paying taxes in said state; and, 3) criminal record if any. IF they resided in the state for longer than say 10 years, payed local, state, and federal taxes, and have no criminal record, then i have no problem with them paying in-state tuition.
VERY REASONABLE REQUIREMENTS you suggest, tailgater.
What are the actual current requirements in Texas? If anyone would care to google and post, it would be helpful.
southbeach1500 saidIT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF WE HAD A SUPERMAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEN NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO BE BOTHERED AT ALL ABOUT THE GOP AND THEIR CRAZY IDEAS THAT WILL DESTROY AMERICA.It would be much better if we had a mix of socialism, labor, Democrats, Republicans and Tea Partiers. Where coalitions had to be formed to enact legislation, involving give-and-take negotiations.
TroyAthlete saidI believe so; Perry got this one right. A child dragged over the border by his parents, who attends American school and does well, should not be denied opportunity due to the illegal actions of his parents.