Petition: Mark Zuckerberg: Remove Anti-LGBT Hate Group NOM from Facebook

  • metta

    Posts: 39082

    Sep 29, 2011 7:52 AM GMT
    Mark Zuckerberg: Remove Anti-LGBT Hate Group NOM from Facebook
    due to its violations of Facebook's terms of use, and due to its mean-spirited fanning of the flames of anti-LGBT bigotry across the nation.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/mark-zuckerberg-remove-anti-lgbt-hate-group-nom-from-facebook
  • metta

    Posts: 39082

    Oct 02, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
    The Ku Klux Klan are not aloud on Facebook. Why should NOM be aloud? They are both official hate groups.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    This is where a gay Republican chimes in to call you a "Liberal hen."
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    For your viewing pleasure, Scruffy:

    Blue_Polish_hen.jpg

    Ba-cawwwwwk.

    Sorry, didn't have the ability to shoop a trollface on it. I know, bad troll posting. icon_razz.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 4:45 AM GMT
    metta8 saidThe Ku Klux Klan are not aloud (sic) on Facebook. Why should NOM be aloud (sic)? They are both official hate groups.


    Better response (to Mettaicon_cool.gif NOM probably brings in a lot more advertising revenue through the many homophobes networked with it.

    The KKK is sufficiently marginalised that very few people, and hence very
    little advertising impressions will be generated by allowing them a presence on FB, when doing so would probably cost them existing members.

    NOM-bigotry doesn't have such a risk of blowback.

    In short:

    money-talks-o.gif

    Money talks louder than principles.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    Bleh. The antidote for free speech is more free speech, not censorship.
  • metta

    Posts: 39082

    Oct 02, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    How To Report the National Organization for Marriage As A Hate Group

    http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2011/09/29/how-to-report-the-national-organization-for-marriage-as-a-hate-group/
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 5:09 AM GMT
    Live and let live. I looked at their FB page. So what, who cares?

    There are about a million FB pages in support of gay marriage.

    Let it go. All this fretting that you do (while initially activating reward centers in your brain, producing a sense of well-being) causes your cortisone levels to increase, which leads to fat deposits around the midsection.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    I agree...it really isn't that big of a deal anymore. The majority of the people who actually matter in the world either support LGBT right or simply don't care. Indifference is certainly a step up from hate.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidThis is where a gay Republican chimes in to call you a "Liberal hen."



    ^ This is where a walking, taking oxymoron chimes in...

    "First they came for the Jews, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew..."
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 5:30 AM GMT
    yankinbc said
    Scruffypup saidThis is where a gay Republican chimes in to call you a "Liberal hen."



    ^ This is where a walking, taking oxymoron chimes in...

    "First they came for the Jews, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew..."


    Don't worry, a bunch of boneheads on FB aren't coming after anyone.
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19119

    Oct 02, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    File me in the column of the people who think this is people exercising their right to free speech, saying something we would rather not hear and that we don't agree with. These things exist in life. Not everyone thinks the same. If you don't like what they have to say, hit the "unlike" button, or better yet stay away from that page.
  • xher

    Posts: 168

    Oct 02, 2011 5:51 AM GMT
    Facebook isn't bound by the constitution. They absolutely have every right to silence anyone who uses their (technically free) service.

    Republicans are quick to ban people who don't toe the line on their sites. It's only liberal websites that respect "free speech", even though free speech doesn't apply.

    This is why you see so many right wingers on liberal news blogs or comments sections spewing their idiotic drivel unimpeded while anyone on freerepublic, stormfront or any other right wing site polices their members very strictly.

    Liberals really are self-defeating idealistic idiots.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 11:43 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidBleh. The antidote for free speech is more free speech, not censorship.

    Perfect comment. Trying to shut up groups and people just makes them fight all the harder and often leads to some form of sympathy towards them. Showing them up as mentally deficient, narrow minded people shows anybody considering joining their ranks what they are really like.

    As a side note I used to occasionally browse stormfront to see what insanity they were up to. It was kind of nice that it was open and that they put their particular brand of hatred and insanity open for the world to see instead of hiding behind some "members only" ideal. You could actually take anybody who was "testing the waters" and point them to specific comments or threads to show where the path of that ideology ultimately leads.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 11:50 AM GMT
    have u visited the anti gay pages? there filled with gay men spamming about gay rights.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 7:43 PM GMT
    waxon saidhave u visited the anti gay pages? there filled with gay men spamming about gay rights.


    Which is also weirdly obnoxious. I usually just say, "Alright, well when you have a gay kid you can go ahead and ask him how he 'decided' to be what he is."

    You guys know, in the 90's survey said that over 80% of people who found out a family member was gay eventually or immediately accepted them. This means that there is an 80% chance that a raging homophobe will get over it for the sake of a loved one.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    west77 said
    JackNWNJ saidBleh. The antidote for free speech is more free speech, not censorship.

    Perfect comment. Trying to shut up groups and people just makes them fight all the harder and often leads to some form of sympathy towards them. Showing them up as mentally deficient, narrow minded people shows anybody considering joining their ranks what they are really like.

    As a side note I used to occasionally browse stormfront to see what insanity they were up to. It was kind of nice that it was open and that they put their particular brand of hatred and insanity open for the world to see instead of hiding behind some "members only" ideal. You could actually take anybody who was "testing the waters" and point them to specific comments or threads to show where the path of that ideology ultimately leads.


    I enjoy the white Liberal form of hate and insanity much more. At least the Stormfront types don't claim to be anything but racist and hateful.

    White Liberals are much more duplicitous.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
    845 "likes" out of 500 million FB members

    is this really worth worrying about.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    Applaud the spirit of the petition.

    Was it written by someone whose first language wasn't English?

    Some of the spelling and grammar is awful.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    Inostrankan saidApplaud the spirit of the petition.

    Was it written by someone whose first language wasn't English?

    Some of the spelling and grammar is awful.


    Sign my petition or you're a racist, bigoted homophobe.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ said
    Inostrankan saidApplaud the spirit of the petition.

    Was it written by someone whose first language wasn't English?

    Some of the spelling and grammar is awful.


    Sign my petition or you're a racist, bigoted homophobe.


    True story, but in this case only by chance. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidBleh. The antidote for free speech is more free speech, not censorship.


    Agree with the sentiment, but this case is not about censorship - this isn't the government restricting NOM's speech rights. Facebook is a private company and has the right to choose what speech it gives a platform to and what not.

    Something conservatives forget when they whine about Facebook and other private companies not enabling their hate speech.
  • Mepark

    Posts: 806

    Oct 02, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
    I will not support this ban. It's silly and unnecessary. We can easily create a counterattack facebook profile.
  • Anto

    Posts: 2035

    Oct 02, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
    Agree with the sentiment, but this case is not about censorship - this isn't the government restricting NOM's speech rights.

    It doesn't matter if the government does it, I do it, you do it, Facebook does it. Censorship is censorship. icon_eek.gif

    What makes this kind of censorship 'ok' for many people is that they happen to agree with it. This is how stupid many people are.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Oct 02, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    Anto saidAgree with the sentiment, but this case is not about censorship - this isn't the government restricting NOM's speech rights.

    It doesn't matter if the government does it, I do it, you do it, Facebook does it. Censorship is censorship. icon_eek.gif

    What makes this kind of censorship 'ok' for many people is that they happen to agree with it. This is how stupid many people are.


    Yes, I am perfectly ok with Facebook deciding who to let on their site. It is an application of private property rights. It's kind of scary that you would call people who think Facebook doesn't have the right to decide who to allow on their site "stupid". Facebook has no obligation to allow anyone to play with their (free) toys - they allow you to do so at their discretion. If Facebook chooses to ban a Nazi group, the KKK, NOM, or Al Qaeda, they have every right to do so.

    If one of the above groups doesn't like Facebook's decision, they can go make their own social networking platform.