If you're really an animal lover, don't buy dog!

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    Sep 30, 2011 12:11 AM GMT
    I'm so sick of seeing people go out and buy a dog when millions of great dogs are killed in shelters because no one will adopt them. It's a living creature, not a new sweater. If you're selecting a dog based on the shape of it's ears, color or because it has "papers", you're far from an animal lover. In fact, you're actively promoting the suffering and deaths of innocent dogs and cats.

    If you feel the same, please join us on Facebook and help educate people about how damaging it is to breed and buy animals.

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    Sep 30, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    I adopted a stray dog like a week ago, she's a cutie and my other dog; a female Chihuhaua was feeling lonely because her brother passed away like 4 months ago, and I already love her, and they get along great icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 30, 2011 12:29 AM GMT
    I plan on doing this, but I work 13 hour days and I don't want to leave my dog stranded for that long. I am not sure how to work around this.
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    Sep 30, 2011 12:33 AM GMT
    omg what type of dog is this???
    is it a japanese akita?
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    Sep 30, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    b1o2y3456 saidI plan on doing this, but I work 13 hour days and I don't want to leave my dog stranded for that long. I am not sure how to work around this.



    If you work that many hours, it's probably not the best time to adopt a dog. If you really want a pet, a cat might be a better option considering how little you're home.
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    Sep 30, 2011 12:38 AM GMT
    But isn't that a bit... I mean.. preachy?

    What about people who have a specific type of dog they want?

    An animal is not a necessity. It's not a sweater.

    I mean, We wanted a dog that would be medium sized and friendly, so we went with a cockapoo.

    My family didn't have the time to take in an abused, ro englected animal. And as a child, my parents weren't going to deal with the diea that my brother or I mgiht eb harmed. We looked into adoption, but it's not always an option/.

    It's a lot of work, and you mgiht end up with a nasty animal.

    NOW I'm pro adoption. My cat I adopted. I am adopted lol.

    But at the same time, a perosn who wants an animal or pet is doing this for themselves, to make themselves happier, so why not get to get what YOU want?

    I agree it's terrible, and I ahte the diea of animal cruelty, but adoption is not an option for ltos of people. And puppies/kittens go fast, it's not so likely to get one, wo yuo end up having to train, or un-train many animals, and deal, sometimes, wth months or years of unpredicaable and sad, behaviour
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    Sep 30, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
    PUPPY!!!!
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
    Anduru saidomg what type of dog is this???
    is it a japanese akita?
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    Shiba/Akita


    Shiba Inu= Small(or mediumish) Dog

    Akita Inu= Big Dog
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
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    Anduru saidomg what type of dog is this???
    is it a japanese akita?
    [adowable]
    Shiba/Akita

    Shiba Inu= Small(or mediumish) Dog
    Akita Inu= Big Dog
    i want one, they're totally hot for fall 2011.
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    mizu5 saidBut isn't that a bit... I mean.. preachy?

    I really don't give a shit if it sounds "preachy." The dogs who are going to get killed tomorrow probably don't give a damn if this message sounds "preachy." They just want to live.



    What about people who have a specific type of dog they want?

    If by "specific" you mean color, appearance, etc, I'd say they're too shallow to have a dog. They obviously care only about how the animal will make them look to their friends, and not about the welfare of the dog.



    I mean, We wanted a dog that would be medium sized and friendly, so we went with a cockapoo.

    So you're telling me you checked your local shelter and you couldn't find a medium sized friendly dog? Bullshit.



    My family didn't have the time to take in an abused, ro englected animal. And as a child, my parents weren't going to deal with the diea that my brother or I mgiht eb harmed. We looked into adoption, but it's not always an option/.

    What??? You know NOTHING about dogs or shelters. Dogs with the SLIGHTEST propensity for biting are euthanized before they even make it to a kennel. Face it. You wanted a toy dog that required no commitment or work on your part, even if it adds to the suffering of other dogs. Shelter dogs are well known for the gratefulness after being adopted. And yes, dogs do show gratitude.



    It's a lot of work, and you mgiht end up with a nasty animal.

    You ignorance about dogs is astounding. You're more likely to wind up with a handful of problems with a purebred dog than a mutt. This is documented!



    NOW I'm pro adoption. My cat I adopted. I am adopted lol.
    But at the same time, a perosn who wants an animal or pet is doing this for themselves, to make themselves happier, so why not get to get what YOU want?


    Once again, your comments reek of selfishness. Because it shouldn't be all about YOU. This is a life, not a toy. You should want to do what's best for the animal, not just YOU.



    I agree it's terrible, and I ahte the diea of animal cruelty, but adoption is not an option for ltos of people. And puppies/kittens go fast, it's not so likely to get one, wo yuo end up having to train, or un-train many animals, and deal, sometimes, wth months or years of unpredicaable and sad, behaviour


    Don't give me that crap about having to "untrain" an animal. It's absolute bullshit. My job was to socialize the animals, teach them basic commands and anything else that would make them more adoptable. I have trained (with no experience) every single dog in that shelter. Dogs are pack animals and are born with a great desire to please their leader.

    It's attitudes like this that makes me wonder if the senseless killing of dogs and cats will ever stop. * S i g h *
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    If I could, I would love to adopt a pet...
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    There is nothing wrong with going to a breed specific rescue organization and adopting a dog based on whatever - ears cropped, color, disposition. The point is you are rescuing a deserving buddy. The Doberman in my profile pic is a rescue.
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:42 AM GMT
    ive always had a dog since the age of 3 my last dog passed at the age of 10 in 2009. He was the only dog I ever bought from a breeder. Last few weeks Ive started looking again this time with the humane society and a few other rescue shelters. I figured it might take awhile but determined ill find something I'll connect with there
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    Sep 30, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said I have trained (with no experience) every single dog in that shelter. Dogs are pack animals and are born with a great desire to please their leader.


    Great work Scruffypup !

    A pro trainer, volunteers at my local shelter and it makes all the difference. I was visiting regularly ...dropping off wish list stuff and visiting the dogs, especially. I was surprised in such a rural community how quickly the dogs were adopted, and there was noticeable behavior improvement with certain dogs after a few sessions.
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    Sep 30, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    I don't own a dog but I do volunteer at the Humane society and I have seen how some dogs have suffered so much.

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    Sep 30, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    mizu5 saidBut isn't that a bit... I mean.. preachy?

    I really don't give a shit if it sounds "preachy." The dogs who are going to get killed tomorrow probably don't give a damn if this message sounds "preachy." They just want to live.



    What about people who have a specific type of dog they want?

    If by "specific" you mean color, appearance, etc, I'd say they're too shallow to have a dog. They obviously care only about how the animal will make them look to their friends, and not about the welfare of the dog.



    I mean, We wanted a dog that would be medium sized and friendly, so we went with a cockapoo.

    So you're telling me you checked your local shelter and you couldn't find a medium sized friendly dog? Bullshit.



    My family didn't have the time to take in an abused, ro englected animal. And as a child, my parents weren't going to deal with the diea that my brother or I mgiht eb harmed. We looked into adoption, but it's not always an option/.

    What??? You know NOTHING about dogs or shelters. Dogs with the SLIGHTEST propensity for biting are euthanized before they even make it to a kennel. Face it. You wanted a toy dog that required no commitment or work on your part, even if it adds to the suffering of other dogs. Shelter dogs are well known for the gratefulness after being adopted. And yes, dogs do show gratitude.



    It's a lot of work, and you mgiht end up with a nasty animal.

    You ignorance about dogs is astounding. You're more likely to wind up with a handful of problems with a purebred dog than a mutt. This is documented!



    NOW I'm pro adoption. My cat I adopted. I am adopted lol.
    But at the same time, a perosn who wants an animal or pet is doing this for themselves, to make themselves happier, so why not get to get what YOU want?


    Once again, your comments reek of selfishness. Because it shouldn't be all about YOU. This is a life, not a toy. You should want to do what's best for the animal, not just YOU.



    I agree it's terrible, and I ahte the diea of animal cruelty, but adoption is not an option for ltos of people. And puppies/kittens go fast, it's not so likely to get one, wo yuo end up having to train, or un-train many animals, and deal, sometimes, wth months or years of unpredicaable and sad, behaviour


    Don't give me that crap about having to "untrain" an animal. It's absolute bullshit. My job was to socialize the animals, teach them basic commands and anything else that would make them more adoptable. I have trained (with no experience) every single dog in that shelter. Dogs are pack animals and are born with a great desire to please their leader.

    It's attitudes like this that makes me wonder if the senseless killing of dogs and cats will ever stop. * S i g h *
    Well congrats. Because somehow NOEN of my friends have magaed that feat! No one I know who has adopted a dog has had a mentally helathy one. Always terrified of everything, or overly aggressive. you msut have a magic touch. Even my family in okkaohma, breeders of horses and dogs, agree with me, and not for their financial benefit. I wouldn't BUY a dog form them.

    And attidues liek this? I am PRO adoption, it's jsut not always an option. And you can't argue there is irrefutable proof that it is difficult to socialize and abused animal. You get WARNED that when you. It might take logner for them to come around, they may enver be super friendly, and some come home sick.

    Plus, what if I want a cockapoo or a golden retriever, and they enver have them in the shelter near me? I jsut shouldnt get a dog because I'm notsaving a life?

    Do you tell people ont to have children also?

    Because I'm adopted, and lots of us get ducked over in the system. Group homes, abusive stays at temporary houses where all you are is a cash cow.

    WHile it's dandy you adopt tons of dogs and save tons of lives, it's not for everyone, and it's unfair to say it is.

    You act like there is NO difference between a dog form a shelter and adog form a breeder or pet store. There is, and you cannot tell me there isn't, it's ridiculous.
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    Sep 30, 2011 2:12 AM GMT
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    Don't give me that crap about having to "untrain" an animal. It's absolute bullshit. My job was to socialize the animals, teach them basic commands and anything else that would make them more adoptable. I have trained (with no experience) every single dog in that shelter. Dogs are pack animals and are born with a great desire to please their leader.

    It's attitudes like this that makes me wonder if the senseless killing of dogs and cats will ever stop. * S i g h *

    Oi, stop trying to take some holier then thou bullshit approach!

    Your way aint right, neither is Mizu's!

    The attitude you have should be towards the people who are breeding these animals without concern or care or letting these animals breed haphazardly!

    It's the people who dump these animals, who don't care, who wont do the right thing and who don't give a shit about anything but themselves!

    Now having adopted a dog before who turned out to be incredibly unhealthy mentally I can say with experience that many of these dogs are the same, they have been abused beyond belief, it's disgusting how they have been treated and they can and do react like they have learnt from what was once a horrible past.

    Not only have I experienced this but so have many of my friends who have adopted, some are simply so hurt and damaged that they have had to be put down because of how the dogs have behaved when brought into a new environment. YES there are many cases where they dog has been just as a dog should, loving, loyal and playful, but that's not always the case.

    So take your bullshit "you know better and you're going to do it my way or I'm going to call you all shorts of shitty names" and shove it up your arse.
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    Sep 30, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    I only own bred and bought dogs...

    ...it's just a preference icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 30, 2011 2:24 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidThere is nothing wrong with going to a breed specific rescue organization and adopting a dog based on whatever - ears cropped, color, disposition. The point is you are rescuing a deserving buddy. The Doberman in my profile pic is a rescue.



    Thanks for bringing that up. I was surprised to find out how many different breed specific rescue groups there are. If you can name a breed, there are rescue groups for them. Of course that doesn't mean much to the people who insist that rescue dogs are somehow inferior.
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    Sep 30, 2011 2:35 AM GMT
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    The attitude you have should be towards the people who are breeding these animals without concern or care or letting these animals breed haphazardly!

    It's the people who dump these animals, who don't care, who wont do the right thing and who don't give a shit about anything but themselves!

    Now having adopted a dog before who turned out to be incredibly unhealthy mentally I can say with experience that many of these dogs are the same, they have been abused beyond belief, it's disgusting how they have been treated and they can and do react like they have learnt from what was once a horrible past.

    Not only have I experienced this but so have many of my friends who have adopted, some are simply so hurt and damaged that they have had to be put down because of how the dogs have behaved when brought into a new environment. YES there are many cases where they dog has been just as a dog should, loving, loyal and playful, but that's not always the case.



    You're mistaking my exasperation for superiority, but you can believe what you want about me. I can't understand how you can care about how breeders threat their dogs but you can't see that the mere breeding in itself is contributing to the suffering and deaths of homeless animals. And if you've had bad luck with the behavior of dogs, I'd bet it was the lack of proper training, not the dog. The problem is almost always the owner, not the dog.
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    mizu5 saidWell congrats. Because somehow NOEN of my friends have magaed that feat! No one I know who has adopted a dog has had a mentally helathy one. Always terrified of everything, or overly aggressive. you msut have a magic touch. Even my family in okkaohma, breeders of horses and dogs, agree with me, and not for their financial benefit. I wouldn't BUY a dog form them.

    No, I don't have a magic touch. Anyone with a little compassion can be just as successful as I am. Very few people know how to properly train a dog and if you're not going to take the time to educate yourself, it's best not to have a dog, be it a rescue or not.



    And attidues liek this? I am PRO adoption, it's jsut not always an option. And you can't argue there is irrefutable proof that it is difficult to socialize and abused animal. You get WARNED that when you. It might take logner for them to come around, they may enver be super friendly, and some come home sick.

    First of all, not all rescue dogs have been abused or neglected even. And even the ones who are abused just need patience, love and attention. No offense, but you really sound like you're more worried about inconveniencing yourself than you are in helping a hurt animal to recover.



    Plus, what if I want a cockapoo or a golden retriever, and they enver have them in the shelter near me? I jsut shouldnt get a dog because I'm notsaving a life?

    I think you need to question why on Earth you need a specific breed of dog. Except in the case of allergies, there is no good reason to be set on a particular breed of dog other than wanting a dog to show off.



    Do you tell people ont to have children also?

    Children are not murdered when they're not adopted.



    WHile it's dandy you adopt tons of dogs and save tons of lives, it's not for everyone, and it's unfair to say it is.

    I disagree. There's just no excuse to continue breeding dogs and cats as long as they are being killed in such vast numbers. I really wish you would go to your local shelter sometime and get a tour of the facilities to see what you're promoting when you buy a dog. But we both know that probably won't happen.



    You act like there is NO difference between a dog form a shelter and adog form a breeder or pet store. There is, and you cannot tell me there isn't, it's ridiculous.


    Yes, there IS a difference. Purebred dogs have MANY more health issues than mutts.