Anwar al-Aulaqi, U.S.-born cleric linked to al-Qaeda, reported killed in Yemen

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    Sep 30, 2011 2:46 PM GMT
    Another strike against intolerance.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/anwar-al-aulaqi-us-born-cleric-linked-to-al-qaeda-killed-yemen-says/2011/09/30/gIQAsoWO9K_story.html
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    Oct 01, 2011 2:08 PM GMT
    There is a lot of unease amongst both left and right wing circles over this assassination.

    This was the killing of a US citizen by the US government.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/278794/us-citizen-assassinated-kevin-d-williamson

    As is noted, "I suspect we will regret this precedent"

    The fact that not as much has been made of this is a testament to the fact there is a Democrat in the White House - which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Can you even imagine the upheaval if Bush considered doing this during his Administration with all the anti-war protesters? Where did they go incidentally?
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    Oct 01, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    riddler78 said

    As is noted, "I suspect we will regret this precedent"


    No we won't. Some are trying to act like this is an unprecedented scandal, but it's really not: it is legal for the military to take out enemy combatants on the battlefield regardless of citizenship. If an American joins a foreign army and engages in acts of war, US soldiers can kill him. This was true a hundred years ago, and it's true today.

    An assassination is if Cindy Crawford were taken out by US drones while walking the streets of Paris. There is no reason for this hand-wringing over al-Awlaki.

    Nothing to see here, move along.
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    Oct 01, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said

    As is noted, "I suspect we will regret this precedent"


    No we won't. Some are trying to act like this is an unprecedented scandal, but it's really not: it is legal for the military to take out enemy combatants on the battlefield regardless of citizenship. If an American joins a foreign army and engages in acts of war, US soldiers can kill him. This was true a hundred years ago, and it's true today.

    An assassination is if Cindy Crawford were taken out by US drones while walking the streets of Paris. There is no reason for this hand-wringing over al-Awlaki.

    Nothing to see here, move along.


    I don't think any tears will be shed... but the idea of a US Presidential order to kill a US citizen was already something that a lot of people on both the right and left were uncomfortable with - while also recognizing the realities of this unconventional war.
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    Oct 01, 2011 3:13 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said

    As is noted, "I suspect we will regret this precedent"


    No we won't. Some are trying to act like this is an unprecedented scandal, but it's really not: it is legal for the military to take out enemy combatants on the battlefield regardless of citizenship. If an American joins a foreign army and engages in acts of war, US soldiers can kill him. This was true a hundred years ago, and it's true today.

    An assassination is if Cindy Crawford were taken out by US drones while walking the streets of Paris. There is no reason for this hand-wringing over al-Awlaki.

    Nothing to see here, move along.
    Agreed.
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    Oct 01, 2011 4:05 PM GMT
    This has been a bad year for terrorists. Ron Paul just rendered himself unelectable by condeming the attacks. Majority of Americans support Obamas decision. Just a case of Riddler trying to make something outta nothing.
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    Oct 01, 2011 5:03 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidThis has been a bad year for terrorists. Ron Paul just rendered himself unelectable by condeming the attacks. Majority of Americans support Obamas decision. Just a case of Riddler trying to make something outta nothing.


    Strongly agree concerning Ron Paul. And my strongest support to the administration, CIA and our military.
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    Oct 01, 2011 5:22 PM GMT
    Good, a traitor to his own people.

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    Oct 01, 2011 5:32 PM GMT
    If Bush had done this the Left would be SCREAMING bloody murder.

    But since it's Obama, it's ok.

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    Oct 01, 2011 5:37 PM GMT
    ...uhm...they are. I don't know if you visit other forums but anyone who considers themselves a "leftist" is raging about this.



    Inostrankan saidIf Bush had done this the Left would be SCREAMING bloody murder.

    But since it's Obama, it's ok.

    bush-obama.jpg

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    Oct 01, 2011 7:17 PM GMT
    riddler78 said

    I don't think any tears will be shed... but the idea of a US Presidential order to kill a US citizen was already something that a lot of people on both the right and left were uncomfortable with - while also recognizing the realities of this unconventional war.


    It certainly gives pause as it should, but once people examine the details of the situation reasonable people will (and have) concluded that American citizens cannot take up arms and wage open war against the government and its people and still expect special treatment when confronted on the battlefield.

    There was careful reasoning behind the Bush and Obama administrations' manhunt for al-Awlaki, and the reasoning was sound.

    I'm starting to pity Ron Paul who has to alternately be the most exciting and the most scary person in politics, sometimes on the same day. When he is right, he is so honest and right you almost want to carry him into the Oval Office yourself. But when he is wrong, he is so narrow-minded and so dangerously and myopically wrong that you feel like the only way he would ever be President is over your dead body.
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    Oct 01, 2011 7:33 PM GMT
    ConfederateGhost said...uhm...they are. I don't know if you visit other forums but anyone who considers themselves a "leftist" is raging about this.



    Inostrankan saidIf Bush had done this the Left would be SCREAMING bloody murder.

    But since it's Obama, it's ok.

    bush-obama.jpg





    Personally, I think if the public really put some deep thought into the implications of the president having the power to be the Accuser, the Judge and the Jury as well as the power behind the Executioner, we would be demonstrating in mass all accross the US.

    Never forget that human nature doesn't change, History repeats itself where forgotten and there's always someone willing to use any situation to gain power and control, all it takes is a few more 9-11 type attacks and the people will agree to any number of additional freedoms lost just like under Bush concerning 9-11. We already have proof of false flag operations that got us into war in Viet Nam and there are numerous proven lies and coverups that got us into Iraq, we havn't learned a thing from them, because not only was Bush/Cheney and their AIPAC led NEO CON Project For the New American Century war backers not punished, but we elected a democrat that is following right down the same path led by the Military Complex. No president should be able to take away Habeaus Corpus no mater who the criminal or what he did, it is against our constitution.

    We are seeing a dramatic swing toward mixing religion and politics, if the wrong far righter gets in office we very well could see organizers of political demonstrations and the like being considered terrorists, even if they don't threaten physical violence.