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    Having prior memory of an event that is currently transpiring or shortly will. Otherwise known as Deja Vu. How is it possible for people to have clear memory of an event happening in a place they've never been?

    I read the wikipedia article on it but I wanted to know what you guys thought. Since the memory of the event, in my case anyway, usually differs slightly in terms of the reactions of people or actions, I think it might be something as fantastic as a brief sharing of memories with yourself from a parallel universe. That would explain why you have the memory at all and why the events and actions of the people sometimes vary from the memory. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Oct 02, 2011 5:10 AM GMT
    I actually just watched a youtube video about multidimensionality. Essentially, we are three dimensional beings that exist in a 10 dimensional universe where the 10th dimension takes into account the sum of all possible interactions of all universes on each other from their beginning to end.

    Backing up, the fourth dimension can essentially be quantized by a line connecting our life from birth to death, and the fifth dimension takes into account for any particular outcome that may or may not have happened along this fourth dimension.

    So, deja vu could in turn be a collapse of this fifth dimension, where a possible outcome had actually already occurred in a different dimension, and was then imposed into the current one thus giving familiarity to an unfamiliar situation. If that makes any sense lol. That is, of course, assuming that the multiverse theory stands...
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    swmrh911 saidI actually just watched a youtube video about multidimensionality. Essentially, we are three dimensional beings that exist in a 10 dimensional universe where the 10th dimension takes into account the sum of all possible interactions of all universes on each other from their beginning to end.

    Backing up, the fourth dimension can essentially be quantized by a line connecting our life from birth to death, and the fifth dimension takes into account for any particular outcome that may or may not have happened along this fourth dimension.

    So, deja vu could in turn be a collapse of this fifth dimension, where a possible outcome had actually already occurred in a different dimension, and was then imposed into the current one thus giving familiarity to an unfamiliar situation. If that makes any sense lol. That is, of course, assuming that the multiverse theory stands...


    That's a really interesting theory, I've never heard of that before. You wouldn't happen to have the link to that video still, would you?
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    Oct 02, 2011 5:32 AM GMT
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    swmrh911 saidI actually just watched a youtube video about multidimensionality. Essentially, we are three dimensional beings that exist in a 10 dimensional universe where the 10th dimension takes into account the sum of all possible interactions of all universes on each other from their beginning to end.

    Backing up, the fourth dimension can essentially be quantized by a line connecting our life from birth to death, and the fifth dimension takes into account for any particular outcome that may or may not have happened along this fourth dimension.

    So, deja vu could in turn be a collapse of this fifth dimension, where a possible outcome had actually already occurred in a different dimension, and was then imposed into the current one thus giving familiarity to an unfamiliar situation. If that makes any sense lol. That is, of course, assuming that the multiverse theory stands...


    That's a really interesting theory, I've never heard of that before. You wouldn't happen to have the link to that video still, would you?


    I mean the last paragraph was sort of my own interpretation. But here's the video about the multidimensionality of the universe:

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    Oct 02, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
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    Oct 02, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    according to Qabalah, we live in twelve dimensions... according to string theory, we are made up of strings vibrating in ten, eleven, or twelve dimensions.. and according to Buddhism, we live in a multiverse (not a universe, but a multi-verse.. meaning multiple universes).. Hinduism also proposes several dimensions, universes, and multiple worlds, planets and solar systems with life on different levels of living vibrations yadda yadda yadda


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    Oct 02, 2011 6:24 AM GMT
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    Additionally, I have viewed my deja vu experiences and premonitory warnings of impending danger. I used to think that a deja vu was a dream you had and then it occurred in the exact same sequence in real life. I'm not talking "familiar" or similar circumstances. I'm talking about seeing everything exactly the same, the colors, the perspective, the emotional charged/feeling that goes with it. As I started to meditate these experiences started to occur during a lucid yet conscious state. However, I can't seem to control it but I'm grateful for when I do get my warnings. I only wished I heeded them when they first began. But since there was basically no one to tell/teach me about what I was experiencing I shrugged off a lot of what I experienced until I discovered a pattern. It happened so infrequently that I didn't fully grasp this until I was in my mid to late thirties.

    But who knows if deja vu has to do with parallel realities or if it has to do with some connection to by being able to foretell future events.


    I've gotten that emotionally charged feeling from some of my experiences with deja vu as well. The emotional charge of the incident is part of what shocks me into "remembering", since I already felt the exact same way in the same situation. It's never real danger though, just experiences where I would get scolded or embarrassed deeply. When I'm experiencing a memory in which I do or say something that causes someone to react unpleasantly in that memory, I always make sure to try and avert it from happening, like it's a game or something, haha. So of course the event then progresses differently than the memory, even if the setting stays the same.

    Did you get into a particular type of meditation when you started meditating?

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    Oct 02, 2011 7:54 AM GMT
    I love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif
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    bolero_of_fire saidI love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif


    You're wrong, the crazies are discussed in this thread: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1850350 icon_razz.gif
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    bolero_of_fire saidI love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif


    About MeI'm an asshole.


    Nuff said.

    But if you aren't interested, and this is a thread for the "crazy", why bother taking the time to post? icon_cool.gif
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    bolero_of_fire saidI love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif


    About MeI'm an asshole.


    Nuff said.

    But if you aren't interested, and this is a thread for the "crazy", why bother taking the time to post? icon_cool.gif


    I actually assumed, based on his judgement call, that he was crazy himself... and proud of it.. crazy pride!
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    Oct 02, 2011 8:30 AM GMT
    Animus saidHaving prior memory of an event that is currently transpiring or shortly will. Otherwise known as Deja Vu. How is it possible for people to have clear memory of an event happening in a place they've never been?

    I read the wikipedia article on it but I wanted to know what you guys thought. Since the memory of the event, in my case anyway, usually differs slightly in terms of the reactions of people or actions, I think it might be something as fantastic as a brief sharing of memories with yourself from a parallel universe. That would explain why you have the memory at all and why the events and actions of the people sometimes vary from the memory. icon_biggrin.gif

    Thoughts?


    I have experienced this many times in my life. The thought and feeling of such moments is quite surreal and inexplicable. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 02, 2011 8:48 AM GMT
    Animus said
    bolero_of_fire saidI love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif


    About MeI'm an asshole.


    Nuff said.

    But if you aren't interested, and this is a thread for the "crazy", why bother taking the time to post? icon_cool.gif

    because this is a message board and it takes all of thirty seconds to post something.

    less if i'm not using correct punctuation and even less if i'm not masturbating
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    Oct 02, 2011 10:56 AM GMT
    Lo and behold!
    Here cometh the wake-up call!

    Without any direct link nor any named thesis to back me up I say thee:

    According to what I heard a few years ago, deja-vu is simply when there's a slight glitch between the right and the left hemispheres of the brain, getting one half up to a few microseconds later than the other. What one half of your brain experiences is almost immediately experienced in the second half, giving you a sense that you've felt all this before. Which you have. Two µs ago icon_smile.gif

    This being said, I do like the youtube clip describing the dimensions above our (x,y,z,t) ones. And I like to think of magic as science yet unexplained. We are yet to understand whether heighened senses of counciousness after lengthy meditations are the results of chemical changes in the brain, or vice versa.
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    bolero_of_fire saidI love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif


    Perhaps that's where you belong, with the crazies.
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    Crepuscule saidLo and behold!
    Here cometh the wake-up call!

    Without any direct link nor any named thesis to back me up I say thee:

    According to what I heard a few years ago, deja-vu is simply when there's a slight glitch between the right and the left hemispheres of the brain, getting one half up to a few microseconds later than the other. What one half of your brain experiences is almost immediately experienced in the second half, giving you a sense that you've felt all this before. Which you have. Two µs ago icon_smile.gif



    Lol, that's quite some call! Did you at least hear what, theoretically, causes the glitch?
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    bolero_of_fire said
    Animus said
    bolero_of_fire saidI love threads like these because it lets me know who the crazy people are. icon_smile.gif


    About MeI'm an asshole.


    Nuff said.

    But if you aren't interested, and this is a thread for the "crazy", why bother taking the time to post? icon_cool.gif

    because this is a message board and it takes all of thirty seconds to post something.

    less if i'm not using correct punctuation and even less if i'm not masturbating


    A second post and now you've wasted all of a minute posting to this "crazy" message board. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 03, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
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    So, deja vu could in turn be a collapse of this fifth dimension, where a possible outcome had actually already occurred in a different dimension, and was then imposed into the current one thus giving familiarity to an unfamiliar situation. If that makes any sense lol. That is, of course, assuming that the multiverse theory stands...


    That's a really interesting theory, I've never heard of that before. You wouldn't happen to have the link to that video still, would you?

    I believe in a multidimensional existence but I don't believe that other dimensions are exact replicas of what we experience prior to or after what we experience consciously in our third dimension here on Earth. If everything were a copy of everyone else set in different times that would be a waste of ten different dimensions, if you were to ask me.

    My interpretation of parallel universes is that you have a connection with another form of yourself within those dimensions. However, you may or may not have an active life within all ten dimensions simultaneously, you might be a different gender, and these other beings connected to you can all vary in age. Some will die before you and there might be births of other people that are connected to you.

    Additionally, I have viewed my deja vu experiences and premonitory warnings of impending danger. I used to think that a deja vu was a dream you had and then it occurred in the exact same sequence in real life. I'm not talking "familiar" or similar circumstances. I'm talking about seeing everything exactly the same, the colors, the perspective, the emotional charged/feeling that goes with it. As I started to meditate these experiences started to occur during a lucid yet conscious state. However, I can't seem to control it but I'm grateful for when I do get my warnings. I only wished I heeded them when they first began. But since there was basically no one to tell/teach me about what I was experiencing I shrugged off a lot of what I experienced until I discovered a pattern. It happened so infrequently that I didn't fully grasp this until I was in my mid to late thirties.

    But who knows if deja vu has to do with parallel realities or if it has to do with some connection to by being able to foretell future events.


    I'm with you on the multiverse theory, thats the beauty of it. Every instant can deviate into an infinite number of possible outcomes and each of those will in turn cascade into an infinite number of outcomes. There could potentially be an infinite number of universes where I'm straight, a chick, or where I was never born. Its pretty incredible to grasp such a concept...sort of belittles Schrodinger's paradox, and supersedes it with much more complicated thoughts of infinite outcomes to an infinite number of possibilites.
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    Oct 03, 2011 5:09 AM GMT
    This used to happen to me a lot as a kid, it was like bit and pieces. I would have a random memory pop into my head of something as clear as if it happened moments ago. Then I would realize it didn't I would dismiss it and then some time down the line it would happen just as i saw it. It used to scare the shit out of me. I eventually started to ignore it and not acknowledge it was happening and then it slowly went away. Now its extremely rare. I would like to know what it is and what causes, and more importantly if it can be controlled cuz knowing important things before they happen would be nice, rather then just random mundane things.
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    Oct 03, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    SoCalNerd saidThis used to happen to me a lot as a kid, it was like bit and pieces. I would have a random memory pop into my head of something as clear as if it happened moments ago. Then I would realize it didn't I would dismiss it and then some time down the line it would happen just as i saw it. It used to scare the shit out of me. I eventually started to ignore it and not acknowledge it was happening and then it slowly went away. Now its extremely rare. I would like to know what it is and what causes, and more importantly if it can be controlled cuz knowing important things before they happen would be nice, rather then just random mundane things.


    I had a friend who would literally have a vision of say, a vase falling, and then minutes later he would witness it happen in front of him... and he would be all annoyed he was too far away to prevent it lol

    Other examples are friends of mine who dream of a car accident, or an argument with a friend.... when in the day they will recognise being in that situation, and they will be able to pay extra care in the street, missing an unusually fast car, or remembering the conversation in the dream, being able to avoid saying what caused the argument and then steering the conversation away to avoid the confrontation...
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    Oct 03, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    Not sure what the real reasons are for them, but I've actually had many deja vu experiences. Some are so simply random and others are very meaningful. I've even had the same one twice, if that's possible.

    I used to pretty much call the outcomes of NFL games just by 'sensing" what was going to happen next. It doesn't happen anymore, but it was very strong for awhile. It was usually situations where I'd get the inclination, not say anything then it would happen: interceptions, missed field goals, fumbles. It got to the point where it started to scare me. As soon as I let people know what I was experiencing, it stopped.

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    Oct 03, 2011 5:52 AM GMT
    I like your theory about parallel universes, we see time as linear but it's not so that might explain Deja Vus as well, every time I have a Deja Vu, I'm like OMG this is so amazing icon_lol.gificon_cool.gif