And Cain decides to bury himself -- at least in my book

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    Oct 02, 2011 4:39 PM GMT
    I'm not sure what policies on immigration he's talking about with Christie, but after mentioning that Christie is too "liberal" because he supports civil unions -- that's bullshit.

    I knew it wouldn't be long before a minister would start actually targeting gay people with his speech.
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    Oct 02, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI'm not sure what policies on immigration he's talking about with Christie, but after mentioning that Christie is too "liberal" because he supports civil unions -- that's bullshit.

    I knew it wouldn't be long before a minister would start actually targeting gay people with his speech.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/us/politics/christie-team-assessing-how-fast-a-2012-campaign-could-be-mounted.html?ref=politics
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    Oct 02, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    Herman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.
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    Oct 02, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
    Sadly even the republican candidates that aren't against gays rights will fall in line in the end and vote the way the 'party winds blow' when push comes to shove. So with Republican we can kiss Gay concerns goodbye and expect some of what we've gained to be reversed at their hands. Some of the fiscally conservative principles are correct, but most hurt primarily those who are already at the bottom while proping up those who need no prop. but any of the republican good, comes laced with this far right swing from the christian right, and I cannot vote for these people.

    Then we have Obama who has proved himself totally spineless and bought off by god only knows how many Wall street, Large Corps and AIPAC Lobbying concerns, so who the hell can we vote for ?

    For me at least, it appears that yet again, I'll have to vote for the least of the evils, or as some say, "vote for the devil I know, rather than the devil I don't know"


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    Oct 02, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
    We may yet get our chance with the fat guy from NJ. For geographic ticket balancing, who knows, maybe he'd pick that former Governor from Utah for VP.

    And that still happens, from Ike and RMN in 52 and 56, RMN / Lodge in 60, Goldwater / Miller in 64, RMN and Agnew in 68, all the up until today, except for Bush / Cheney were kinda sorta in the same state. It would make all sorts of sense if it would end up Christie / Huntsman. Also would be a balance in temperament. Both are social liberals or close compared to the rest.
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    Oct 02, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
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    Oct 02, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!
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    Oct 02, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
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    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!


    We'll certainly find out in the next week or so. He can NOT wait any longer than that.

    So what do you think - Christie / Huntsman?
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    Oct 02, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!


    Christie is FOR Obamacare. He's refused to join the 26 other states in the Federal lawsuit.


    Can't we fuckin' get someone perfect?
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    Oct 02, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    Christie is probably the best bet for gay Republicans because unlike Huntsman he is popular with the party's rank-and-file and thus actually has a chance of making through the primaries -- plus, unlike Huntsman, he won't bore you to tears.

    But if Christie runs he is going to have the same problem that Perry does: once the debates expose the fact that he is not a complete right-wing nutjob and has some moderate views (support for amnesty for illegals, Obamacare, green energy and cap-and-trade, the Ground Zero mosque, civil unions), he will be branded a RINO and they will start looking for a "true conservative" alternative like Cain or Palin.

    It is worth noting that Regan's record on gay rights, abortion, and taxes as California governor would make him a hard sell for today's conservative activists, but he is their favorite President. The lesson is that the GOP is not going to produce a perfect President, but they might get decent one if they nominate someone who can beat Obama.
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    Oct 02, 2011 7:46 PM GMT
    I sense some desperation in the GOP ranks
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    Oct 02, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI'm not sure what policies on immigration he's talking about with Christie, but after mentioning that Christie is too "liberal" because he supports civil unions -- that's bullshit.

    I knew it wouldn't be long before a minister would start actually targeting gay people with his speech.


    umm...where have you been? This isn't anything new.
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    Oct 02, 2011 8:43 PM GMT
    I said it already in another post. Cain is dangerous to this country. He is full of greed as you can see from his career. He only cares about the rich and making sure their pockets are full as well as his. He does nothing but bring African Americans down. The gays and lesbians are next on his hit list, I'm sure of it.
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    Oct 02, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mocktwinkie said
    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!


    Christie is FOR Obamacare. He's refused to join the 26 other states in the Federal lawsuit.


    Christie is good for one thing. He has put into place gun control laws, which I applaud him for. Not sure if he wants people to go without health care, but I do know that he hates gays. He said he would veto a gay marriage bill.
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    Oct 02, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mocktwinkie said
    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!


    Christie is FOR Obamacare. He's refused to join the 26 other states in the Federal lawsuit.


    Oh please. No he isn't "for" obamacare. You have to realize he is governor of New Jersey -- not the most conservative state!
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    Oct 02, 2011 10:23 PM GMT
    It looks like the Minister hasn't left the church. According to an interview on Fox, he would modify "Hail to the Chief" to give it a gospel feel.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/02/herman-cain-hail-to-the-chief_n_991017.html


    I'm sorry, but I don't know how you didn't see this coming, Mock.
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    creature saidIt looks like the Minister hasn't left the church. According to an interview on Fox, he would modify "Hail to the Chief" to give it a gospel feel.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/02/herman-cain-hail-to-the-chief_n_991017.html


    I'm sorry, but I don't know how you didn't see this coming, Mock.


    And if he had some elected administrative governmental experience, in addition to his private sector experience, such as a big state governor for a term or two, he would have my vote.
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    Oct 03, 2011 9:34 AM GMT
    Like someone recently said ....

    It might not be the candidates republicans .... maybe it's YOU

    "It's like the Republican primary is a season of American Idol in reverse, where every week you add another idiot,"
    http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/jon-stewart-to-gop-voters-take-a-long-hard-look-in-the-mirror-video.php
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    GQjock saidLike someone recently said ....

    It might not be the candidates republicans .... maybe it's YOU

    "It's like the Republican primary is a season of American Idol in reverse, where every week you add another idiot,"
    http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/jon-stewart-to-gop-voters-take-a-long-hard-look-in-the-mirror-video.php


    Real authoritative source there – Jon Stewart.
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    Oct 03, 2011 3:54 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    So what do you think - Christie / Huntsman?



    I could live with that, though I would far prefer HUNTSMAN / CHRISTIE
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    Oct 03, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    Claude23 saidI do know that he hates gays. He said he would veto a gay marriage bill.



    Please cite a single example in which Chris Christie shows that he "Hates Gays"?
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    freedomisntfree said
    So what do you think - Christie / Huntsman?



    I could live with that, though I would far prefer HUNTSMAN / CHRISTIE


    I'm coming to terms with the that fact that is not going to happen.
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    Oct 03, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
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    Claude23 saidI do know that he hates gays. He said he would veto a gay marriage bill.



    Please cite a single example in which Chris Christie shows that he "Hates Gays"?


    two most overused words in the lexicon of the left is 'hate' and 'liar'
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    Oct 03, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    Claude23 said
    southbeach1500 said
    mocktwinkie said
    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!


    Christie is FOR Obamacare. He's refused to join the 26 other states in the Federal lawsuit.


    Christie is good for one thing. He has put into place gun control laws, which I applaud him for. Not sure if he wants people to go without health care, but I do know that he hates gays. He said he would veto a gay marriage bill.


    He hates gays as much as obama, he favors civil unions, not marriage.
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    Oct 03, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
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    Claude23 said
    southbeach1500 said
    mocktwinkie said
    conservativejock saidHerman is an all out fundamentalist minister. I'm surprised it took this long for that to surface. However, I still think he is something this country very much needs.

    As with any Republican candidate, blunting any potential harmful affect upon the GLBT community is going to be a full-time job. One, by the way, I'm well capable to carry forward.


    Yeah but I won't support someone like that who starts vocalizing blatantly their anti-gayness. I really would love if Christie ran!


    Christie is FOR Obamacare. He's refused to join the 26 other states in the Federal lawsuit.


    Christie is good for one thing. He has put into place gun control laws, which I applaud him for. Not sure if he wants people to go without health care, but I do know that he hates gays. He said he would veto a gay marriage bill.


    He hates gays as much as obama, he favors civil unions, not marriage.



    Incorrect, Obama supports full rights, Christie doesn't.