Agricultural Extinction Threat To Food Supply

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    Oct 03, 2011 8:15 AM GMT
    Well people are FINALLY beginning to understand that big business and more monolithic, monopoly-like production can be detrimental.... namely... it can cause the human food stock to crash... 90% of the agricultural diversity has already lost due to big agro-business and technology.... the consequences for us are dire... with starvation being a serious risk to all of us..

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/03/act-now-to-diversify-crops-at-risk-say-scientists/
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    Oct 03, 2011 11:59 AM GMT
    Anyone interested in this issue should watch Food, Inc. and buy local ingredients. Community supported agriculture (CSA) is an easy way to support local farmers who do not engage in mass farming. Buy heirloom vegetables and pasture-raised meat!
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    Oct 03, 2011 1:03 PM GMT
    Perhaps the shrill nature of the posting is just a bit unwarranted.

    We are in no danger of running out of food soon.

    Some of us grow our own gardens (I do year round in a small greenhouse I have in my yard) and I get beef/lamb from a ranch a little less than 60 miles to the south of Denver.

    Anyway, Israel probably solved the problems of overfishing and world hunger last summer, in case you didn't hear.

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    Oct 03, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    GreenHopper saidWell people are FINALLY beginning to understand that big business and more monolithic, monopoly-like production can be detrimental.... namely... it can cause the human food stock to crash... 90% of the agricultural diversity has already lost due to big agro-business and technology.... the consequences for us are dire... with starvation being a serious risk to all of us..

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/03/act-now-to-diversify-crops-at-risk-say-scientists/


    Unfortunately - the alternative is to let much of the world starve. "Monolithic, monopolyp-like production" is responsible for declining hunger, cheaper food and improving nutritional values in the developing world.

    The article you cite talks of the possibilities of what could happen with warming climates with a myriad of caveats. A far more instructive article:

    "Why ditching your fancy, organic, locavore lifestyle is good for the world's poor."
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/09/12/got_cheap_milk
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    Oct 03, 2011 1:53 PM GMT
    I remember the good old days in the Ukraine when they didn't have all this new fangled Big Food Inc (or anything Inc.). Everyone ate well, except for the 20 million who didn't and starved.
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    Oct 03, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidI remember the good old days in the Ukraine when they didn't have all this new fangled Big Food Inc (or anything Inc.). Everyone ate well, except for the 20 million who didn't and starved.


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    Oct 03, 2011 3:49 PM GMT
    Nah, you gotta look bigger.

    The monoculture practice (of agriculture and frankly, of humans) is an epidemic's wet dream just waiting to happen. Whether some kind of prion, antibiotic resistant staphylococcus, a fungus like the potato blight, or even an unstoppable pest of some sort, the practice is unsustainable, just as America is finally starting to demonstrate its bloated unsustainability and petroleum based fertilization regimes are starting to buckle and fall.

    Yes, people are not starving technically, but ironically we are seeing a plague of the side effects of the diet. Obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, tooth decay, depression, and overall malnutrition despite our world's wonderful technological and agricultural achievements. This is due to the wide availability of grains and soy, which all keep very easily (much more so than say, fruit or vegetables) and is a commodity. One could very easily blame the overwhelming costs of health care on the federal subsidy of grains (although that would be fairly simplistic).

    Should we be worried about starving anytime soon? Most likely not. It would mean the fall of civilization before that. But it is more and more likely we'll be seeing malnutrition (in terms of micronutrients) more often in the future. I sound draconion when I suggest this, but sometimes I think this is a sign that we have reached the limit of our ability to populate...
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    Oct 03, 2011 3:52 PM GMT
    dancedancekj saidNah, you gotta look bigger.

    The monoculture practice (of agriculture and frankly, of humans) is an epidemic's wet dream just waiting to happen. Whether some kind of prion, antibiotic resistant staphylococcus, a fungus like the potato blight, or even an unstoppable pest of some sort, the practice is unsustainable, just as America is finally starting to demonstrate its bloated unsustainability and petroleum based fertilization regimes are starting to buckle and fall.

    Yes, people are not starving technically, but ironically we are seeing a plague of the side effects of the diet. Obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, tooth decay, depression, and overall malnutrition despite our world's wonderful technological and agricultural achievements. This is due to the wide availability of grains and soy, which all keep very easily (much more so than say, fruit or vegetables) and is a commodity. One could very easily blame the overwhelming costs of health care on the federal subsidy of grains (although that would be fairly simplistic).

    Should we be worried about starving anytime soon? Most likely not. It would mean the fall of civilization before that. But it is more and more likely we'll be seeing malnutrition (in terms of micronutrients) more often in the future. I sound draconion when I suggest this, but sometimes I think this is a sign that we have reached the limit of our ability to populate...


    FAIL. Very BIG FAIL.

    There is currently a famine in Somalia and the UN estimates 750,000 people will starve if food aid doesn't reach them.

    Guess who's blocking it? It ain't Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists or Scientologists!

    http://www.google.com/search?q=famine+in+somalia+2011&hl=en&gbv=2&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1562l2515l0l4859l7l4l0l0l0l0l234l671l0.3.1l4l0&um=1&tbo=u&tbm=nws&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&oq=famine+in+somalia+2011&aq=f&aqi=&aql=

    Nice try though.
  • dancedancekj

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    Oct 03, 2011 4:04 PM GMT
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    dancedancekj saidNah, you gotta look bigger.

    The monoculture practice (of agriculture and frankly, of humans) is an epidemic's wet dream just waiting to happen. Whether some kind of prion, antibiotic resistant staphylococcus, a fungus like the potato blight, or even an unstoppable pest of some sort, the practice is unsustainable, just as America is finally starting to demonstrate its bloated unsustainability and petroleum based fertilization regimes are starting to buckle and fall.

    Yes, people are not starving technically, but ironically we are seeing a plague of the side effects of the diet. Obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, tooth decay, depression, and overall malnutrition despite our world's wonderful technological and agricultural achievements. This is due to the wide availability of grains and soy, which all keep very easily (much more so than say, fruit or vegetables) and is a commodity. One could very easily blame the overwhelming costs of health care on the federal subsidy of grains (although that would be fairly simplistic).

    Should we be worried about starving anytime soon? Most likely not. It would mean the fall of civilization before that. But it is more and more likely we'll be seeing malnutrition (in terms of micronutrients) more often in the future. I sound draconion when I suggest this, but sometimes I think this is a sign that we have reached the limit of our ability to populate...


    FAIL. Very BIG FAIL.

    There is currently a famine in Somalia and the UN estimates 750,000 people will starve if food aid doesn't reach them.

    Guess who's blocking it? It ain't Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists or Scientologists!

    http://www.google.com/search?q=famine+in+somalia+2011&hl=en&gbv=2&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1562l2515l0l4859l7l4l0l0l0l0l234l671l0.3.1l4l0&um=1&tbo=u&tbm=nws&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&oq=famine+in+somalia+2011&aq=f&aqi=&aql=

    Nice try though.


    The solution is simple. Eat more fat people!