How do you feel about these 'Girl Machines'?

  • asupas

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    May 19, 2008 10:28 PM GMT
    So I've been teased in the past for occasionally using these machines:

    Glute Machine
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    Abductor / Adductor
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    Apparently (and unbeknownst to me) these are 'chick machines' - unworthy of a true man's time.

    Now, I've always argued that it's good to mix it up and try new things but this excuse isn't getting me far with my workout buddies. Do any of you guys use these machines? Are they truly girl exercises (if such a thing exists)? Are they useful for a guy? Please let me know so I can stop embarrassing myself. icon_smile.gif
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    May 19, 2008 10:35 PM GMT
    I hate to tell you the adductor and abductor machines also known as the yes no machines are a great workout and an amazing way to get the v line and a great ass. Any one who says it sjust for chicks probably has a droopy butt and a bit of a gut
  • auryn

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    May 19, 2008 10:41 PM GMT
    I read that the abductor/adductor machine isn't good to use. I find it interesting when a guy is in it though, for aesthetic reasons.

    Anywho, here's some info on it:
    Seated Hip-Abductor Machine
    What it’s supposed to do: Train outer thighs
    What it actually does: Because you are seated, it trains a movement that has no functional use. If done with excessive weight and jerky technique, it can put undue pressure on the spine.
    A better exercise: Place a heavy, short, looped resistance band around your legs (at your ankles); sidestep out 20 paces and back with control. This is much harder than it sounds.

    Other Machines to Avoid
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    May 19, 2008 10:47 PM GMT
    I like the way it says,"If done with excessive weight and jerky technique, it can put undue pressure on the spine"

    So if done with correct form, is the advice moot?icon_neutral.gif
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    May 19, 2008 10:52 PM GMT
    I've used the abductor/adductor before and tried the glute machineicon_redface.gif. They are very specialized machines designed to isolate specific muscles for sculpting and toning. Probably designed to support the misconception that if you workout a specific area you will lose the fat around it, and since the many women tend to carry their weight in their thighs and arse, those machines have been labeled accordingly. "Girl Machines"

    The abductor/adductor seems like a decent machine that targets a group of muscles that seem for the most part over looked by men, but the glute machine in my opinion is a waste of time when there are a wide variety of alternatives that give much better results in your conquest of obtaining the perfect ass icon_lol.gif ie: lunges and squats
  • auryn

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    May 19, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    RyanOji saidI like the way it says,"If done with excessive weight and jerky technique, it can put undue pressure on the spine"

    So if done with correct form, is the advice moot?icon_neutral.gif


    Yeah, I noticed that the reasons given are subjective, and figured that the folks here are intelligent (which you proved) and will make sure to pay attention to form.

    Many gyms have these machines and have trainers that put clients in them. So, they must have some value as long as the trainee knows how to properly use them. Just my thoughts though. I'm sure a trainer will have better advice about them.
  • asupas

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    May 19, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
    em3ns - I agree, lunges/squats are excellent for training the entire leg. However, as with most other areas of the body, I've read that it's good to do the major muscle groups first (i.e. squats, lungs) and then follow up with targeting each muscle group individually (inner/outer thigh, glutes, etc.). Thats why I always found value in these thighmaster-esque machines. I just don't understand why there is a general impression that these machines are only for girls when it seems like they are useful for us blokes as well.
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    May 19, 2008 11:03 PM GMT
    I used to use the abductor/adductor machines and go pretty heavy on them. But my lifting buddies don't like them, and one of my friends actually called them "mangina" machines. Eeek.
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    May 19, 2008 11:04 PM GMT
    Ummm, I use those machines. I suppose they are really gay though.

  • auryn

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    May 19, 2008 11:05 PM GMT
    If you're using them and not hurting yourself, why should they care? Benefit: you can probably crack a walnut with your thighs or your ass, so what's the problem?

    I know this seems to contradict my earlier post, but since I was coming from a different point of view, I think both thoughts are valid.
  • asupas

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    May 19, 2008 11:07 PM GMT
    As a side note - hopefully redheadguy won't yell at me for posting pics. icon_smile.gif

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/185607/

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    May 19, 2008 11:29 PM GMT
    i use all of those machines and i think they are excellent. they may be "girly", but they are great at targeting specific areas. you'll benefit greatly.
  • Squarejaw

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    May 19, 2008 11:51 PM GMT
    Yer all a bunch of pussies. Any exercise that doesn't involve wrestling a deer to the ground and killing it with your bare hands is a girly exercise.

    (hock, spit, sneer)
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    May 19, 2008 11:57 PM GMT
    Squarejaw saidYer all a bunch of pussies. Any exercise that doesn't involve wrestling a deer to the ground and killing it with your bare hands is a girly exercise.

    (hock, spit, sneer)


    hehehe... thats a good one. icon_lol.gif
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    May 20, 2008 12:00 AM GMT
    Squarejaw saidYer all a bunch of pussies. Any exercise that doesn't involve wrestling a deer to the ground and killing it with your bare hands is a girly exercise.

    (hock, spit, sneer)
    Forgot blowing snot out without a hanky
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    May 20, 2008 12:24 AM GMT
    John43620 saidUmmm, I use those machines. I suppose they are really gay though.



    Yeah because inanimate objects can obviously be gay... stupid!
  • EricLA

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    May 20, 2008 12:49 AM GMT
    When I was first getting started with working out I had a trainer from Poland who claimed to have coached Olympic athletes. I don't know if he was full of it or not, but I still use some of the exercises he taught me, some of which I've never found anywhere else, and yet have helped me get me where I am today. His routines often kicked my @$$. Early on he had me use the abductor and adductor.

    So, if the abductor and adductor were good enough for some old school Polish Olympic coach, then they're good enough for me.
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    May 20, 2008 1:03 AM GMT
    I've noticed that with the Ab/Adductor machine, my knees hurt pretty bad after I'm done. The whole time I'm doing them, it seems like there's a lot of lateral pressure on the sides, no matter how little weight, or how I adjust the seat and pedals. I'll admit, though, that they feel awesome when you get up, because it's a muscle group that's not worked as often as it should.

    Anyway, just my experience. I have used them, and I still do occasionally, but the knee thing always concerns me. icon_redface.gif
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    May 20, 2008 1:10 AM GMT
    C'mon guys, we don't use certain machines, now do we?

    (I thought those machines were there for our our sisters, mothers and grandmothers!!)
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    May 20, 2008 1:29 AM GMT
    Ah yes - the Abductor / Adductor machine. Also known as the "sorostitute" machine by some! LOL!

    I think there are other ways using regular squat machines (changing the angle and position of your feet) to work these hard to target muscles but that's just me.
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    May 20, 2008 1:30 AM GMT
    asupas said
    Now, I've always argued that it's good to mix it up and try new things but this excuse isn't getting me far with my workout buddies.


    Women, in general, tend to be more concerned with having better rears and cellulite free thighs than men. The Glute machine and abductor/adductor machines have unfortunately been stigmatized as feminine machinery.

    They are good pieces of equipment

    I have observed, through very scientific methods, that the guys who use the Glute and abductor/adductor machines tend to have better asses and better bodies in general.

    I bet you have a nice ass icon_smile.gif
  • asupas

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    May 20, 2008 1:55 AM GMT
    Haha Nitaka - it's getting there hopefully!

    Well, I'm glad to know that there is a general perception of these machines - not that I'll quite using them. Especially the 'butt blaster' or Glute machine.. gotta love it. icon_biggrin.gif

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    May 20, 2008 4:50 AM GMT
    Auryn saidI read that the abductor/adductor machine isn't good to use. I find it interesting when a guy is in it though, for aesthetic reasons.

    Anywho, here's some info on it:
    Seated Hip-Abductor Machine
    What it’s supposed to do: Train outer thighs
    What it actually does: Because you are seated, it trains a movement that has no functional use. If done with excessive weight and jerky technique, it can put undue pressure on the spine.
    A better exercise: Place a heavy, short, looped resistance band around your legs (at your ankles); sidestep out 20 paces and back with control. This is much harder than it sounds.

    Other Machines to Avoid


    Dammit I looked at the whole list of bad machines and I was using half of them for years. Ugh.
  • Rowing_Ant

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    May 20, 2008 8:32 AM GMT
    Load of crap

    Fixed path resistance machines are only good for learning poor movement patterns and training muscles in isolation.

    You need to train in a functional movement pattern, in big open chains.

    Don't use the machines, and get out the cables, free weights and kettle bells. Oh and your own body weight of course.

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    May 20, 2008 9:28 AM GMT
    smacks rowing ant on the bum and says crap. Machines are good to use if yuo have pre exhausted the muscles and are working out on your own. They offer security and allow yuo to get that extra bit of final effort out of the muscle.

    Everything in a gym has its place, even hush my mouth Swiss balls!

    But if you wanna blow your mates away with a Complex GHR rather than the machine for macho sake, their was my fave as one of the piccys on the Bootcamp (altho I noticed the pussy didnt use any weights)

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    First off wouldnt reccomend lying on a towel its a great way to bruise yuor ribs instead lay a swiss ball on top of the bench and grip down around it.

    Lift legs for 5 seconds and lower for 5 seconds aim for min 6 max 8 when you hit the 8 which will probably take a few weeks start adding weight to your feet.