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    Oct 04, 2011 4:56 AM GMT
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html

    He is a GOOD man.

    Such a sense of optimism and ‘can do’ spirit with this man. It’s almost Ronald Reagan all over again. My only reservation is his complete lack of elected experience. Other than that, GO Herman!
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    Oct 04, 2011 4:57 AM GMT
    I like him very much, but as a V.P. possibility, not POTUS
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    Agree. You just gotta have some elected experience. What an inspiration though. Did you hear minute 6:40 and on for a few seconds?
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    Unfortunately i have to say no.. absolutely NO theologians in the Whitehouse.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/1198388202001/anti-wall-street-protest-spreading-across-us/?playlist_id=86924

    as a big contrast .... minute 1:04
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
    TropicalMark saidUnfortunately i have to say no.. absolutely NO theologians in the Whitehouse.


    but I assume you think Al Gore was fine as VP for eight years?

    Gore first attended Vanderbilt University Divinity School from 1971 to 1972

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    Oct 04, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    and Jimmy Carter was a devout Baptist

    From a young age, Carter showed a deep commitment to Christianity, serving as a Sunday School teacher throughout his life. Even as President, Carter prayed several times a day, and professed that Jesus Christ was the driving force in his life. Carter had been greatly influenced by a sermon he had heard as a young man, called, "If you were arrested for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?"[19]



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    Oct 04, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark saidUnfortunately i have to say no.. absolutely NO theologians in the Whitehouse.


    but I assume you think Al Gore was fine as VP for eight years?

    Gore first attended Vanderbilt University Divinity School from 1971 to 1972

    Yup..

    From Wiki
    "Gore first attended Vanderbilt University Divinity School from 1971 to 1972 on Rockefeller Foundation scholarship for people planning secular careers. He later said he went there in order to explore "spiritual issues", and that "he had hoped to make sense of the social injustices that seemed to challenge his religious beliefs."

    Never did he serve in any capacity as a "theologian"..

    From Wiki: Re Cain
    He lives in the Atlanta suburbs, where he also serves as a minister at Antioch Baptist Church North.

    Thats a no go. regardless of party affiliation And NO I didnt NOT cast any vote for Carter. I couldnt stand him either.
    Guess you didnt peg me for what you thought.

    Ps I denounced the GOP in 91.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:18 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark saidUnfortunately i have to say no.. absolutely NO theologians in the Whitehouse.


    but I assume you think Al Gore was fine as VP for eight years?

    Gore first attended Vanderbilt University Divinity School from 1971 to 1972

    Yup..

    From Wiki
    "Gore first attended Vanderbilt University Divinity School from 1971 to 1972 on Rockefeller Foundation scholarship for people planning secular careers. He later said he went there in order to explore "spiritual issues", and that "he had hoped to make sense of the social injustices that seemed to challenge his religious beliefs."

    Never did he serve in any capacity as a "theologian"..

    From Wiki: Re Cain
    He lives in the Atlanta suburbs, where he also serves as a minister at Antioch Baptist Church North.

    Thats a no go. regardless of party affiliation And NO I didnt NOT cast any vote for Carter. I couldnt stand him either.
    Guess you didnt peg me for what you thought.

    Ps I denounced the GOP in 91.


    True, Baptist bothers me as I've said before, and I'm sure some things are going to come out about him that I don't care for, BUT he sure makes me feel good listening to him. Religion or not, I sure like the guy.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:20 AM GMT
    and btw ... shhhhhh about this one. You promise to keep it completely secret? Promise?

    I voted for McGovern in 72. I kid you not.

    Guess you didnt peg me for what you thought

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    Oct 04, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    And I will say that for damn sure I voted for Gerry Ford in 76.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:31 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidand btw ... shhhhhh about this one. You promise to keep it completely secret? Promise? I voted for McGovern in 72. I kid you not.

    Guess you didnt peg me for what you thought

    LOL I didnt like him.. I liked tricky dicky But for your first time voting, I wont hold it against you.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    I was concerned about megalomania complex with Nixon. I marginally wanted him to win, but not by as big a margin as he did.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    And really, other than the war, it was tough to be a bigger liberal/progressive than was Nixon.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidAnd really, other than the war, it was tough to be a bigger liberal/progressive than was Nixon.
    Now ya know why I liked him! I did spend the first 22 yrs of my adulthood looking for war ya know..

    Then I grew up.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:43 AM GMT
    Remember what Pat Moynihan said about Nixon on his last Meet the Press appearance as Moynihan was retiring?
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:44 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree saidAnd really, other than the war, it was tough to be a bigger liberal/progressive than was Nixon.
    Now ya know why I liked him! I did spend the first 22 yrs of my adulthood looking for war ya know..

    Then I grew up.


    I flunked the AF physical in about five minute because of genetic high blood pressure so if I couldn’t fly, I wanted to war to end.
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    Oct 04, 2011 1:11 PM GMT
    "other than that" you can't find ANYTHING wrong? How about him saying that anyone advocating civil unions is "too liberal". I can't even believe someone would try to put that as a "liberal" or "conservative" stance.
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    Oct 04, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI like him very much, but as a V.P. possibility, not POTUS


    After the Christie announcement, which should come as no surprise, my money is on Romney / Cain as the final GOP 2012 ticket.
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    Oct 04, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said"other than that" you can't find ANYTHING wrong? How about him saying that anyone advocating civil unions is "too liberal". I can't even believe someone would try to put that as a "liberal" or "conservative" stance.



    I never heard him say that, but if it IS true then I wouldn't be likely to support him either. I think there are better candidates overall on a host of other issues who may not support "gay marriage" but who would support "civil unions". Herman Cain would have to do very well in the primaries to be considered a viable V.P. candidate
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    Oct 04, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said




    I know that Sarah Palin supports civil unions, as I believe does Joe Biden, just not changing the definition of "marriage"
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    Oct 04, 2011 4:17 PM GMT
    Someone needs to work on Herman Cain regarding a few of his views
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    Oct 04, 2011 4:23 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
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    I know that Sarah Palin supports civil unions, as I believe does Joe Biden, just not changing the definition of "marriage"



    So, that's a Yes FOR polygamy then.

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    If the definition of marriage should not be changed. It should be exactly as in the Bible. That means Polygamy, with wives as chattel property. That is how it s defined in the Bible, since you went there.

    I must presume a stated position considering what the definition is that you do not want changed, since only an absolute idiot would do otherwise or not be able to apply their principles consistently.

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    Because I presume that consistency, I MUST be suspicious of people running for office who talk to an invisible friend and seek its counsel through signs they interpret as they desire or feel the need to practise regular rituals of absolution to assuage a guilty conscience.
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    Oct 04, 2011 4:28 PM GMT
    Upper_Cdn said
    CuriousJockAZ said
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    So, that's a Yes FOR polygamy then.

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    If the definition of marriage should not be changed. It should be exactly as in the Bible. That means Polygamy, with wives as chattel property. That is how it s defined in the Bible, since you went there.

    I must presume a stated position considering what the definition is that you do not want changed, since only an absolute idiot would do otherwise or not be able to apply their principles consistently.

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    "since you went there" This might be the wrong forum to ask Biden a queation. "only an absolute idiot " I don't call folks idiots, but I'm not a big fan of Biden's and I'll leave it at that.