Apple Announces Voice Controlled iPhone 4S - AT&T, Verizon and now Sprint. All the details.

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    Oct 04, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/10/apple-iphone-5-live-blog/

    Live Blog: Apple’s 2011 ‘Let’s Talk iPhone’ Event

    11:38 a.m. That concludes today’s media event. iPhone 4S, Siri, new iPods. Hope you had fun!

    11:37 a.m. Oops, available on all three carriers: AT&T, Verizon and now Sprint.

    11:36 a.m. On October 28th, it’ll hit a bunch more countries, and by December, over 70 countries, over 100 carriers. This is the fastest roll out ever for an iPhone.

    11:35 a.m. Pre-orders start on Friday October 7th, and the iPhone 4S will be available October 14th in the US, Canada, Australia, the UK, France Germany and Japan.

    11:33 a.m. The iPhone 4S will be available in black and white. 16 GB for $199, 32 GB for $300, $64 GB for $400, with a two year contract. The 3GS will now be available for free, and an 8 GB iPhone 4 will now be available for $99.

    11:31 a.m. Video still going on, basically summarizing the points we already mentioned. Processor, camera, Siri, iOS 5 and iCloud. “We’ve thought about every square millimeter that goes inside the iPhone 4S.” And that concludes our video.

    11:29 a.m. Phil is showing a video of the iPhone 4S. The video shows us the inside of the phone, almost like an x-ray. “Siri is a whole new way of interacting with your iPhone, using just your voice,” Scott says in the video.

    11:28 a.m. Now we know all the features that are added in the iPhone 4S. To be clear, Siri is iPhone 4S specific.

    11:28 a.m. Now we know all the features that are added in the iPhone 4S. To be clear, Siri is iPhone 4S specific.

    11:27 a.m. With Siri you can use natural language. It’s conversational, contextual, personal. It works with built-in apps, adds dictation anywhere there’s a keyboard. It works across Wi-Fi or 3G. It’ll be built-in to the iPHone 4S and support English, French and German. It will be beta to start: more languages and services will be added over time.

    11:27 a.m. “And that is the coolest feature of the iPhone 4S,” Phil says as he steps back onstage. On the keyboard, there’s now a microphone, which can be used to interact with Siri and dictate messages.

    11:26 a.m. What is Siri, exactly? “I am a humble personal assistant,” Siri replies. Much laughter and applause.

    11:24 a.m. Siri can also play any song you want, if it’s in iCloud or on the device, you can use it to make calls, send messages, set up meetings, set reminders, get directions, dictate and send emails, find out the weather, get information about stocks, set alarms, find a contact’s address, write notes, perform web searches, and answer any questions you’d normally ask Wolfram Alpha.

    11:24 a.m. If you’re counting down to a special event, you can ask Siri. How many days until Christmas? 82 days (or 2 months, 21 days, 11 weeks 5 days, 58 weekdays, .22 years). Pretty precise there, Siri.

    11:23 a.m. Traveling abroad? Siri finds the current exchange rates, so you can see how many Euros to a dollar, for instance.

    11:22 a.m. You can ask Siri to “Define mitosis” and a definition comes up.

    11:22 a.m. Web search is also integrated with Siri. So if you’re looking up info on the space program, you can tell Siri to “Search Wikipedia for Neil Armstrong.” The relevant Wikipedia page comes up in Safari almost instantly. Siri is also partnered with Wolfram Alpha (awesome!).

    11:20 a.m. You can also set up meetings, hands free, just by talking to Siri. Scott set up a meeting with Phil Schiller for Friday. But there’s more! “Remind me to call my wife when I leave work?” Siri asks for verification about the request, then confirms that it will remind him.

    11:19 a.m. If you get a message, and your phone is in your pocket, you can ask Siri to read it to you, hands free. You just have to say “Read my message.” Siri reads the message, and asks if you want to “Reply” or “read it again”. You can also ask it questions about your calendar. Scott checks he’s open on Friday, then tells Siri to reply “I can do Friday.”

    11:18 a.m. You can also ask Siri Maps related questions, and it will show you the directions. Siri has a robotic female voice in this demonstration.

    11:17 a.m. You can ask Siri about stocks. Siri says “NASDAQ Composite is down right now.” Siri is also partnered with Yelp, so you can ask something like “Find me a great Greek restaurant in Palo Alto.” Siri responds “I’ve found 14 Greek restaurants, 5 of them are in Palo Alto. I’ve sorted them by rating.” The ranked listing follows below.

    11:16 a.m. Now, a question about the clock. “What time is it in Paris?” Response: “The time in Paris, France is 8:16 PM.” What about the alarm? “Wake me up tomorrow at 6am?” “OK I set it for 6am” Siri says. Impressive.

    11:16 a.m. You can also ask the question a different way to get the same result. You can also ask something conceptual like, “Do I need a raincoat today?” Siri responds: “It sure looks like rain today.” The audience laughs and applauds.

    11:15 a.m. You can get to Siri at any time by holding down the home button for a few seconds, like Voice Contorl on the iPhone now. Scott asks “What is the weather like for today”. The app says “Here’s the forecast for today” and brings up a forecast listing. It’s 66 degrees, with a high of 70 and low of 55.

    11:14 a.m. Now we’ve got a demo of beta Siri software. It’s a live demo. Scott Forstall will show us how it works.

    11:13 a.m. “What we really want to do is talk to our device, and get a response. We don’t want to be told how to talk to it, we want to talk to it however we like,” Phil says. This feature that does this is called Siri, your intelligent assistant. It helps you get things done, just by asking.

    11:13 a.m. “It’s the most best iPhone yet.” It has one more feature, all about our voice. Oh boy, you can feel the excitement in the room.

    11:12 a.m. Phil is giving an overview of the iPhone 4S’s features: improved processor, wireless technology, camera, AirPlay, and it comes with iOS 5. It’s also part of iCloud.

    11:11 a.m. Now, AirPlay. You can stream photos and videos straight to your Apple TV setup. It also has AirPlay mirroring. If you don’t have an Apple TV, you can plug in an HDMI cable and do wired mirroring.

    11:11 a.m. “For many customers, the iPhone 4S will be the best video camera they’ve ever owned, the best still camera they’ve ever owned.”

    11:09 a.m. Next, video recording. It can take 1080p HD video with real-time video image stabilization. There’s also temporal noise reduction, which helps in low light scenarios. Now we’re going to see a sample video of the kind of quality you can expect from the camera. The colors are bright, vivid. It’s a video of three ladies and going hot air ballooning.

    11:08 a.m. The photos don’t look like they’re shot with a smartphone at all. Last few shots are of the ocean, waves crashing, and wildflowers blooming near a calm beach.

    11:07 a.m. Now we’re seeing some sample photos taken with the iPhone 4S. Sushi shot? Nope, first shot is of some mountains. Hot air balloons over tree tops, a woman with a dandelion. A squirrel! “Do you know how hard it is to get a squirrel to stand still?” (Just give it some food.)

    11:06 a.m. We’re looking at a chart of smartphone camera speeds. The iPhone 4 takes 1.1 seconds for first photo, half a second for second photo. Droid Bionic takes 3.7seconds for first photo, 1.6 seconds for second photo.
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    Oct 04, 2011 6:41 PM GMT
    11:06 a.m. Apple also uses that A5 chip, which houses an Apple designed image processor. There’s face detection, it has 26% better auto white balance than the iPhone 4, and the chip takes super fast photos.

    11:05 a.m. The iPhone 4S has a five element lens (there were four in the iPhone 4), this provides a 30% sharper image. It’s got an f/2.4 aperture, which lets in more light.

    11:03 a.m. Third: the camera system. The iPhone 4 is the most popular camera used on Flickr. “We set our sights on competing with great point and shoot cameras,” Phil says. So what’s the new camera like? It’s got an 8 MP sensor, you can take photos that are 3264 by 2448. That’s 60% more pixels than the iPhone 4’s camera sensor. But that doesn’t necessarily make a picture better. The new sensor is backside illuminated, which gathers 73% more light than the iPhone 4’s sensor. It’s 33% faster than the iPhone 4 camera as well. On top of that, it’s got a hybrid IR filter for better color accuracy and more color uniformity.

    11:03 a.m. That’s the new antenna system. A breakthrough in antenna technology, faster downloads, world phone.

    11:02 a.m. Next, a world phone. The iPhone 4 came in two flavors, GSm and CDMA. GSM lets you roam around the world. The iPhone 4S is a world phone, it has both GSM and CDMA.

    11:02 a.m. The iPhone 4S is just as fast as other 4G phones.

    11:00 a.m. Second: the wireless system. Phil’s talking about the iPhone 4’s stainless steel band. The iPhone 4S will intelligently switch between two antennas to both transmit and receive. It can do this in the middle of a call. It improves call quality and can download data twice as fast as before. It can achieve 14.4 down and 5.8 up (that’s Mbps). Sound familiar? It’s 4G performance, same as the Motorola Atrix 4G, HTC Inspire 4G, LG Thrill 4G.

    10:58 a.m. Victory! Enemy defeated. Infinity Blade II will drop on December 1, 2011.

    10:57 a.m. The graphics are super detailed. There’s koi swimming in a pond in the water, sunrays, fireflies. And of course, super detailed characters. Your character now has the option to use two swords.

    10:56 a.m. Today, they are announcing an iOS Exclusive, Inifinity Blade II. It includes some graphics techniques not even used in high end gaming consoles. The goal of the game: track down and destroy the deathless.

    10:55 a.m. Apple really sees this improving games. Mike Capps, president of Epic games is going to show us something now. Last year, they showed us Infinity Blade.

    10:54 a.m. It starts with a retina display, glass in front and back, same form factor as the iPhone 4. But “inside, it is all new.” It’s got an A5 processor. It’s an Apple designed chip, dual core processor, dual core graphics (up to 7x faster than previous iPhone).

    10:54 a.m. Today, we’ve got the iPhone 4S.

    10:54 a.m. “Despite competitors trying really hard, they haven’t come up with anything close,” Phil says. It’s the number one smartphone in the world, and number one in customer satisfaction.

    10:53 a.m. iPhone time!

    10:52 a.m. iOS 5 is a tremendous update for the iPod Touch, Phil says. It’ll be available in both black and white. Price drop: 8 GB for $199, 32 GB for $299, 64 GB for $399. Available October 12.
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    Oct 04, 2011 7:05 PM GMT
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    11:03 a.m. That’s the new antenna system. A breakthrough in antenna technology, faster downloads, world phone.

    11:02 a.m. Next, a world phone. The iPhone 4 came in two flavors, GSm and CDMA. GSM lets you roam around the world. The iPhone 4S is a world phone, it has both GSM and CDMA.

    11:02 a.m. The iPhone 4S is just as fast as other 4G phones.

    11:00 a.m. Second: the wireless system. Phil’s talking about the iPhone 4’s stainless steel band. The iPhone 4S will intelligently switch between two antennas to both transmit and receive. It can do this in the middle of a call. It improves call quality and can download data twice as fast as before. It can achieve 14.4 down and 5.8 up (that’s Mbps). Sound familiar? It’s 4G performance, same as the Motorola Atrix 4G, HTC Inspire 4G, LG Thrill 4G.


    The Verizon iPhone4 has dual-antenna diversity due to the QCOM GOBI radio chipset. The iPhone4S uses the same but they had to find room for the extra transmit parts for GSM and the SIM card slot.

    Can't wait to see internal photos.

    http://www.getgek.com/iphone-mobile-phone/anandtech-claims-verizon-iphone-4-signal-is-better-than-att-iphone-4.html

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    Oct 04, 2011 7:13 PM GMT
    Sweet, when can I get one? Anybody have any opinions regarding Sprint vs. Verizon?
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    Oct 04, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidSweet, when can I get one? Anybody have any opinions regarding Sprint vs. Verizon?

    Pre-order Oct 7, available Oct 14.
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    Oct 04, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
    I got the iPhone4 as soon as it came out. From AT&T I am eligible for a full discount when upgrading. This is with AT&T Premier, but I assume it applies to all AT&T customers.

    BTW If Gazelle agrees that my iPhone is in perfect condition, they will pay me $287 for my 32GB. Last time the agreed my orig iPad was in perfect condition, so by keeping it in a case with a screen protector, I expect they will agree now. Not bad considering 32GB 4S $299 with a contract. Planning on the 64GB, so the $112 difference is a no-brainer.
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    Oct 04, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    Awesome specs.


    1 - Dual Core Processor(same as ipad)
    2 - 7x graphics performance(gaming)
    3 - 8MP camera 1080p video(with other enhanced features)
    4 - Iris voice control(if it works as shown its pretty impressive)
    5 - 2x Download speed on HSPA+
    6 - iOS5 and iCloud
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    Oct 04, 2011 8:31 PM GMT
    "Open the pod bay doors Siri."

    "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
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    Oct 04, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    Interesting articles:

    Pre-Order the iPhone 4S from Your Old iPhone with AT&T’s Upgrader App
    http://gizmodo.com/5846650/pre+orc-^the-iphone-4s-from-your-old-iphone-with-atts-upgrader-app

    AT&T iPhone 4S Will Be Faster Than Verizon and Sprint’s
    http://gizmodo.com/5846655/att-iphone-4s-will-be-faster-than-verizon-and-sprints

    The iPhone 4S’ Siri Voice Command Is Just as Amazing as We Hoped
    http://gizmodo.com/5846542/the-iphone-4s-siri-voice-command-is-just-as-amazing-as-we-hoped

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    Oct 05, 2011 12:16 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidSweet, when can I get one? Anybody have any opinions regarding Sprint vs. Verizon?


    Verizon -

    cons:
    C1. fucking evil robber barons who nickel and dime you as much as legally possible.

    C2. no more unlimited data plans for new customers.

    C3. shit customer service.

    pros:
    P1. Best coverage in the USA. Bar none.



    Sprint -

    cons:
    C1. Coverage is the poorest out of AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon, outside of major metro areas in USA. Call quality itself tends to be better than AT&T, but can't make a fair comparison as of yet with iPhones as of this posting (based upon whatever hardware limits are present with the iPhone vis-a-vis dropped calls and receiving signal strength.

    C2. Okay customer service.

    pros:
    P1. Fair service plans, with usual taxes for all kinds of shit you've come to expect from any telephone company.

    P2. Still has an unlimited data plan bundle, I think entry level plan for single users is $70 USD/month before taxes (add 10-15% to advertised rate depending on region)


    Better act quick and get on that unlimited plan so as to be grandfathered, sure as I will take a shit sometime tomorrow, Sprint gonna kill that plan off just like the other carriers did when they figured out how much bandwidth revenue they were losing, lol....

    I am still kind of kicking myself slightly for jumping on the iPhone 4 bandwagon last year when I could have stuck with Sprint and went with an HTC Evo or Galaxy Tab...

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    Oct 05, 2011 12:26 AM GMT
    awww - I was thinking of switching to T-Mobile so my partner and I could get on the 2 lines for $100 a month deal. Figures a new iPhone would come out around the same time and NOT be available on T-Mobile. icon_cry.gif
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    Oct 05, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    It's a phone. The geeky asian guy at work was almost orgasiming running back and forth from the patients to the computer to see what was coming next in the presentation.
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    Oct 05, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
    sashaman saidawww - I was thinking of switching to T-Mobile so my partner and I could get on the 2 lines for $100 a month deal. Figures a new iPhone would come out around the same time and NOT be available on T-Mobile. icon_cry.gif


    I'm pretty sure my parents just renewed our contract with T-Mobile as well icon_evil.gif
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    Oct 05, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidI'll most likely pre-order the 4S this Friday since it usually arrives on your desk, one day early and you don't have to wait in line....
    I've always enjoyed all the iPhones.. so no reason not to keep upgrading if you actually use it.

    Agree. Will also order Friday. The only thing I would have liked to see is LTE, but I wasn't expecting that given the current chip size and power requirements. I think that will be on my must have list for the next iPad, however.
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    Oct 05, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    to anyone who'd toss out one of those "it's just a phone" comments, my answer to your non-question, non-argument is:

    It's not.

    It's a phone.
    It's a camera.
    It's a personal assistant.
    It's a gaming console.
    It's a music player.
    It's a movie player.
    It's a calendar.
    It's an alarm clock.
    It's a web browser.
    It's a personal messaging device.
    It's a photo album.
    It's a handheld computer.

    This doesn't just apply to the iPhone -- you can say the same for the Androids, as well.
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    Oct 05, 2011 5:45 PM GMT
    RobertF64 saidCan't wait to see internal photos.


    Can't wait to see one run through a Blendtec.
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    Oct 05, 2011 6:01 PM GMT
    AT&T website now shows the iPhone 4S as available Oct 14. www.att.com/iphone4s When I initiated a chat, a pop up said pre-orders Oct 7. Agent said can pre-order at 12:01am, but not clear if local time zone or not. From AppleInsider, from Apple site avail 12:01am Pacific, 3:01am Eastern. That would be consistent what the AT&T rep said about their site.

    From AT&T phone, entering *639# sends text message with eligibility.
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    Oct 05, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidAT&T website now shows the iPhone 4S as available Oct 14. www.att.com/iphone4s When I initiated a chat, a pop up said pre-orders Oct 7. Agent said can pre-order at 12:01am, but not clear if local time zone or not.


    Yep! One possible tip for y'all.

    Last time, I was able to order through my corporate portal a few hours early. I skipped all the rush and avoided the "AT&T website is crashing!" problems entirely. I'd advise people to try to get in a little early and keep reloading the available options page to see when the 4s appears.

    I am not elegible for an upgrade until 11/24, and I don't want this new phone badly enough to pay so much money:

    4s.jpg

    icon_cry.gif
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    Oct 05, 2011 6:45 PM GMT
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    socalfitness saidAT&T website now shows the iPhone 4S as available Oct 14. www.att.com/iphone4s When I initiated a chat, a pop up said pre-orders Oct 7. Agent said can pre-order at 12:01am, but not clear if local time zone or not.


    Yep! One possible tip for y'all.

    Last time, I was able to order through my corporate portal a few hours early. I skipped all the rush and avoided the "AT&T website is crashing!" problems entirely. I'd advise people to try to get in a little early and keep reloading the available options page to see when the 4s appears.

    I am not elegible for an upgrade until 11/24, and I don't want this new phone badly enough to pay so much money

    Did same last year. Got it a day before they went on sale. The lines I avoided stretched blocks.

    Unless they are being very strict, bet you could talk with Premier and have them give you full eligibility. Waiting till Nov might be easier, but they could run out and have major backlogs.
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    Oct 05, 2011 7:10 PM GMT
    Interesting....

    AT&T Blaming Apple For iPhone 4S Upgrade Pricing That Screws Loyal iPhone Customers

    Today an AT&T customer service representative (CSR) lays the blame for the current upgrade pricing squarely on Apple, inc. According to the AT&T CSR we spoke to this morning upgrade eligibility dates and the pricing models are all dictated by Apple, Inc. and they cannot be changed.

    If you’ve had an iPhone long enough you’ll recall a similar customer service fiasco a couple of years ago with the iPhone 3GS. If you missed the last time early adopters weren’t able to upgrade and extend their contracts take a look at Apple and AT&T Royally Screw Loyal iPhone 3G Customers it wasn’t pretty.

    If you stood in line last year to buy an iPhone 4, the year before that for an iPhone 3GS, etc., and count yourself a loyal Apple customer? Well, we’re all idiots, because Apple and AT&T just screwed us royally and now it looks like history is repeating itself.


    I don't agree, btw, that we're being ripped off or that AT&T lied per se, but, hell, in terms of the ridiculous amount of money I pay just for my text message plan every month, I should get an upgrade. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 05, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    alphatrigger said

    Better act quick and get on that unlimited plan so as to be grandfathered, sure as I will take a shit sometime tomorrow, Sprint gonna kill that plan off just like the other carriers did when they figured out how much bandwidth revenue they were losing, lol....

    I am still kind of kicking myself slightly for jumping on the iPhone 4 bandwagon last year when I could have stuck with Sprint and went with an HTC Evo or Galaxy Tab...



    Thanks. Think I'm gonna wait for the iPhone 5. icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 07, 2011 11:20 AM GMT
    Ordered via AT&T web site. Delivery scheduled for release date, though last time it came a day early. Both Apple and AT&T web sites were slow and took several tries.
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    Oct 09, 2011 6:08 AM GMT
    $849, $749 and $649 for the 64gb, 32gb and 16gb iPhones on Verizon. I don't have discount prices available because I upgraded already.

    The upgrade prices posted by TorrentPrime sound pretty good.

    Someone explain to me why "loyal iPhone customers" deserve "better" discounts. The whole idea of discounts is to keep customers with expired contracts and attract new ones.


    WiMax is dying. Sprint is walking away from Clear.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2016440135_sprintclearwire08.html

    You will see peace in the middle east before you see WiMax on a popular handset.
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    Oct 09, 2011 6:27 AM GMT
    Can't wait! =D

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    Oct 09, 2011 2:28 PM GMT
    shoelessj saidto anyone who'd toss out one of those "it's just a phone" comments, my answer to your non-question, non-argument is:

    It's not.

    It's a phone.
    It's a camera.
    It's a personal assistant.
    It's a gaming console.
    It's a music player.
    It's a movie player.
    It's a calendar.
    It's an alarm clock.
    It's a web browser.
    It's a personal messaging device.
    It's a photo album.
    It's a handheld computer.

    This doesn't just apply to the iPhone -- you can say the same for the Androids, as well.

    Don't forget the Windows Phone 7!

    But, just to be blunt, smartphones are not as powerful as their computer counterparts. Just important to keep that in perspective if anyone plans to drop a very large amount of cash on one of these babies.