Capitalism summed up in a picture???

  • BCSwimmer

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    Oct 04, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    capitalism1.jpg

    Sad? Ironic? Humourous? Partly true? What is your take on it?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 04, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    You think free market capitalism is bad, hey socialism is no damned better. Piss off the government leaders in a socialistic dictatorship like North Korea and you will end up in a prison gulag workcamp where starvation, disease, and both physical and psycological torture are commonplace. At least in a capitalist system, the worst that can happen to you is ending up out on the street.
  • br0ski90

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    Oct 04, 2011 8:41 PM GMT
    HTTP ADDRESS GOES HERECapitalism, in its structure can only be a successful system when there are people suffering in extreme poverty. I think, if the picture was of a woman and her child, we would really have something to talk about, being that capitalism is very masculinist. Of course, there is a necessity for some areas of capitalism in the world. Without the promise of reward (sadly) people wouldn't have invented many of the things that we use on a daily basis along with major revolutions in medical sciences, education and communication. There are areas, though, that capitalism should not be involved in. Healthcare, obviously is one of the most discussed areas where we, as a species, have decided to put profit over humanitarianism. And before anyone says that people who are poor should just get a job (and show their ignorance), it's pretty hard to pull yourself up in todays world without receiving some sort of assistance. . . and since I'm pretty bad at explaining my thoughts i'll toss two links out there for anyone interested in capitalism. As everyone knows, Marx is pretty much the Jesus of discourse on economic structures, and his exploration of class is enlightening. In addition to his works, David Harvey is another person to check out, his book The Enigma of Capital, is really interesting and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to discuss anything economic.

    Marx and Engels website http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/index.htm

    The Enigma of Capital - David Harvey
    http://ebookbrowse.com/harvey-the-enigma-of-capital-pdf-d37602481

    Video of David Harvey talking about his book
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0
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    Oct 04, 2011 8:43 PM GMT
    no free market capitalism exists due 2 the fact that there r no true free markets. one person i know calls our current system "corporationalism."
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    Oct 04, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    No, that's just the reality of life with capitalism or socialism or communism or whatever else you have in place.
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    Oct 04, 2011 10:38 PM GMT
    "Without the promise of reward (sadly) people wouldn't have invented many of the things that we use on a daily basis along with major revolutions in medical sciences, education and communication."


    that is fallacious thinking. that it preassumes your definition of "reward" (presumably you mean some form of monetary. ) is universal and the sole measure of "reward." as incentive for invention.



    I believe the maxim is "necessity" ( not "payment") is the mother of invention.


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    Oct 04, 2011 10:48 PM GMT
    roadbike rob said:

    "socialism is no damned better. Piss off the government leaders in a socialistic dictatorship.... "

    Note how "socialism" at the beginning of the sentence gets morphed into "socialistic dictatorship." in the middle of the sentence. icon_lol.gif


    that is a classic con trick - just a slippery form of lying and it is repeatedly evident in GOP spin since Karl Rove started shameslessly using the propaganda strategies codified and used so effectively by Josef Goebbels in WWII.

    (That is just pointing out the history precedent and source material - before the righties start screaming in outrage that I'm calling them nazis). icon_rolleyes.gif
  • GQjock

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    Oct 04, 2011 11:03 PM GMT
    No .... but this is

    Here we have Capitalism at it's very best

    Competition in Heathcare is a Good Thing you say

    Private enterprise is an Innovator

    Hospital Drug Shortages Deadly And Costly, Review Finds
    15 Deaths Have been Attributed to Shortages of Mainstay Medications
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/hospital-drug-shortages-deadly-costly_n_977743.html

    A growing crisis in the availability of drugs for chemotherapy, infections and other serious ailments is endangering patients and forcing hospitals to buy from secondary suppliers at huge markups because they can't get the medications any other way
    .......reasons include theft of prescription drugs from warehouses or during shipment, as well as the "gray market" vendors who buy scarce drugs from small regional wholesalers, pharmacies or other sources and then sell them to hospitals at many times the normal price. These sellers may not be licensed, authorized distributors.
    In addition, many companies have stopped making generic injected drugs because the profit margins are slim. Producing them is far more expensive than stamping out pills, and it takes about three weeks to produce a batch. Making things worse, companies don't have to notify customers or the FDA that they've stopped making a medicine. That means neither FDA nor competitors can fill the gap in time.

    Remember the republican credo .... LET'EM DIE