Herman Cain: “If you don’t have a job and you are not rich, blame yourself”

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    Oct 06, 2011 8:16 AM GMT
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/05/herman-cain-to-wall-street-protesters-if-you-dont-have-a-job-and-you-are-not-rich-blame-yourself/

    Thanks for filling us in, Herm.

    Yeah, I'm sure the 55-year old guy who lost his pension and his job when the big bank he worked for failed in the financial crisis is going to be more than happy to know that "it's his fault." Not to mention the employees at the smaller banks, law firms, construction firms, caterers, vendors, printers, advertisers, coffee shops, and other interdependent companies who got laid off.

    Can somebody please remove Mr. Cain from the stage before he further embarrasses himself?

    Note to other GOP candidates: you're supposed to blame Obama, not the people you want to vote for you. Just sayin'.
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    Oct 06, 2011 8:40 AM GMT
    "I don´t have facts to back this up...."

    That clip will come back to bite the GOP big time. If they weren´t such a bunch of idiots I´d almost feel sorry for them
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    Oct 06, 2011 11:19 AM GMT
    I wish I could just BLOCK him icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 06, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
    Wait so if you don't have a job and you ARE rich you don't have to blame yourself?!?
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    Oct 06, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
    Lostboy said"I don´t have facts to back this up...."


    Unlike many Republican politicians, he's at least honest in admitting when he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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    Oct 06, 2011 1:20 PM GMT
    That this man is a "frontrunner" (if the straw poll is indicative)
    tells us his batsh*ttery is fully representative of GOP thinking and values as far as his supporters are concerned.



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    Oct 06, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
    "If God didn't want some people to be poor, he would give them money." Ted Bowers from Will and Grace.
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    Oct 06, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
    I started a thread on this topic yesterday. I said:

    Yeah, Herman, I think I understand what you're trying to say here, but this came off as a bit insulting.

    In my opinion I work very hard and long hours, and I lost deal after deal when the big banks/lenders backed out during the crash and for the next 18 months or so. Sometime this happened two days before closing, when we already had a legal commitment from these lenders, 3rd party fees already spent, blowing my clients’ 1031 and costing them hundreds of thousands in boot.

    Hey Herman, you want to try something difficult, try my business for a while and I don’t mean during the good times when it can be pretty damn good, but during a downturn and see how you do.
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    Oct 06, 2011 3:15 PM GMT
    He’s getting intoxicated with adrenalin with his success in the polls and it’s going to his head. Statements like this are not helpful. Plus, this will not help him with republicans. The vast majority of ‘risk takers’ I deal with are republicans (with only two exceptions) and they stand to lose it all and several have.

    We’re the ones who spend years in planning and development and leasing, etc., so it’s hugely risky. Some of these projects take ten years from start to finish and if you get caught timing the economic cycles incorrectly, you can easily lose everything. For Herman Cain to make statements like this is insensitively at its best and naivety at its worse.
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    Oct 06, 2011 3:39 PM GMT
    Such a sweeping and careless statement reflects his serious dearth of understanding towards those in difficult circumstances. Sure, there are those who are lazy and insolent and pay the price for it - but come on, surely he doesn't think this is universally the case?
    It is difficult for me to take his words seriously when they do not reflect a nuanced understanding of the multitude of economic issues the American economy faces currently.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:15 PM GMT
    Cain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    The problem with Cain I think is that as mentioned, he makes sweeping generalizations which in and of itself is a problem, but also gives me the impression that he sees the world in a very simplistic black and white view. As a potential presidential candidate, he should know that saying these things will bite him in the ass. As a former CEO, he should know that as well.

    I thought perhaps he just sticks his foot in his mouth when speaking sometimes. But given that he has made no apologies whatsoever, and the fact that he already has an autobiographical account of "My Journey to the Whitehouse", I think he's just full of himself.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    He said rather emphatically that he is not the type of guy to be #2. I don't think he would take the VP offer, even if he were offered it, because it would go against the main reason he gave for not running for president --- his commitment to the people of New Jersey as Governor. I do agree that the nomination is Romney's to lose.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:45 PM GMT
    Cain has made many previous statements that indicated to me that he did understand such as businesses need predictability and predictability for years in order to expand and then hire so this may have been a case of hoof in mouth disease. You can get away with this kind of stuff if you’re polling 1 or 2%, but when he’s tied with the top of the field, folks are listening to him.

    My money would be on Romney / Huntsman right now.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    No, can't happen. Christie wouldn't be a good team player. He never be happy with #2. Huntsman is willing to do anything that would help.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    No, can't happen. Christie wouldn't be a good team player. He never be happy with #2. Huntsman is willing to do anything that would help.



    I'm not convinced that things could not still get shaken up on the campaign trail. If Huntsman can get traction in one of the primaries (that most likely being New Hampshire) you could actually see something more like Huntsman/Romney.

    I'm not so sure I buy into the mentality like...


    jprichva said
    The base will not permit Huntsman on the ticket.

    I'm not ignoring it, but not convinced what "The Base" actually is in the Republican Party anymore because I truly believe it is evolving.
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    Oct 06, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    No, can't happen. Christie wouldn't be a good team player. He never be happy with #2. Huntsman is willing to do anything that would help.

    The base will not permit Huntsman on the ticket (see "McCain, John, limited VP choices of").


    Sure we will. I'm part of that base. It seems that this is all we're talking about these days. I don't think I have talked to anyone that has a big problem with Huntsman. Religion has been zero of an issues from the folks I talk / email with. Of course I bring Huntsman up all the time
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    Oct 06, 2011 5:22 PM GMT
    dancedancekj saidThe problem with Cain I think is that as mentioned, he makes sweeping generalizations which in and of itself is a problem, but also gives me the impression that he sees the world in a very simplistic black and white view. As a potential presidential candidate, he should know that saying these things will bite him in the ass. As a former CEO, he should know that as well.

    I thought perhaps he just sticks his foot in his mouth when speaking sometimes. But given that he has made no apologies whatsoever, and the fact that he already has an autobiographical account of "My Journey to the Whitehouse", I think he's just full of himself.


    Yeah, he's getting full of himself. That's not gonna work on our side of the aisle.

    Humility is a very admirable personality trait, even in politics.
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    Oct 06, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidSure we will. I'm part of that base.

    Sadly for you (and I mean this sincerely) your vote doesn't count.

    Mine counts a hundred times more than yours.


    The day you become serious and sincere, be sure to let me know.
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    Oct 06, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
    I don't know if the link will work through here, but a few individuals might be interested in this. Todd, if the link doesn't work, and you are interested, you should be able to get to thsi through the commercial section on NAR


    The Economic Outlook for Investors and Decision Makers

    In this 28-minute session, Mark Dotzour, Ph.D., Chief Economist and Director of Research for the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University, reviews the outlook for job growth in the next twelve months and what he describes as a “bi-polar” commercial real estate market. This is a fast-moving half-hour of insight and analysis for commercial real estate professionals. Listen here»

    http://newsletter.cbrnews.info/t.aspx?n=1054&l=1671

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    Oct 06, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    freedomisntfree said
    jprichva said
    freedomisntfree saidSure we will. I'm part of that base.

    Sadly for you (and I mean this sincerely) your vote doesn't count.

    Mine counts a hundred times more than yours.


    The day you become serious and sincere, be sure to let me know.

    No, I do mean it, and it's not a good thing.
    California will vote for the Democrat---at this point, possibly even if Satan were the nominee (no jokes, please). The Electoral College has rendered your vote next to worthless.

    I live in the ultimate swing state----therefore my vote counts not only for me and for Florida, but hugely magnified for the country at large. Don't think so? Ask the confused seniors who mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan instead of Gore in 2000.


    Ok, now I understand. Actually, that's not true for me right now. In the primaries I'm pretty much useless unless we move ours up, but in the general, that's not the case. I'm back in Ohio probably as long as my parents are alive.

    Yeah, in Cali, it was almost pointless to even vote. My only reward was a jury duty summons.
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    Oct 06, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    Yep, the link worked. This is a pretty good 1/2 hour synopsis of what's happening right now regarding CRE.

    Todd, this affects you a bit on your side of the business. Really, it affects all of us.


    The Economic Outlook for Investors and Decision Makers

    In this 28-minute session, Mark Dotzour, Ph.D., Chief Economist and Director of Research for the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University, reviews the outlook for job growth in the next twelve months and what he describes as a “bi-polar” commercial real estate market. This is a fast-moving half-hour of insight and analysis for commercial real estate professionals. Listen here»


    http://newsletter.cbrnews.info/t.aspx?n=1054&l=1671

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    Oct 06, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    Christie?

    Try Romney/[insert right-wing nutjob here]
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    Oct 07, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
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    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    Christie?

    Try Romney/[insert right-wing nutjob here]

    [Huntsman] (right wing nut job?)
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    Oct 07, 2011 6:10 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    TroyAthlete said
    catfish5 saidCain is done. Just like Perry. Romney will get the GOP nod. Wonder if Christie would take VP.


    Christie?

    Try Romney/[insert right-wing nutjob here]

    [Huntsman] (right wing nut job?)


    Huntsman is not going to be on the ticket.