Barack Obama has just achieved a new level of disapproval among American voters

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    Oct 06, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587209/201110060810/Americans-now-disapprove-of-Barack-Obama-as-much-as-they-do-Russias-Putin.htm

    On the 990th day of his presidency, 52% of his countrymen disapprove of the Chicagoan, according to Gallup's latest three-day rolling average.

    That means Americans now think as little of their own president as they do of Vladimir Putin, the former Russian spymaster and authoritarian tough guy who's expected to become president again over there.
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    Oct 06, 2011 1:54 PM GMT
    And your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.
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    Oct 06, 2011 1:59 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:03 PM GMT
    Solyndra - second loan was in the works to delay bankruptcy until after the election. Obama says no regrets.

    Fast and Furious - investigations may include the West Wing in addition to DOJ

    Several other green companies with govt loans on the verge of bankruptcy.

    Foursquare scandal - stay tuned

    Bill Clinton - now not the time to increase taxes

    Union involvement with demonstrators expected to have further backlash alienating more independents.

    Time for Hillary Clinton challenge?
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:04 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
    LMAO.. What kind of pathetic 'twist' is that supposed to be?
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
    LMAO.. What kind of pathetic 'twist' is that supposed to be?


    There's usually a pretty wide gap between what you approve of and what you disapprove of. It's more difficult to get to over 50% disapproval than it is to be under 50% approval.
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
    LMAO.. What kind of pathetic 'twist' is that supposed to be?


    There's usually a pretty wide gap between what you approve of and what you disapprove of. It's more difficult to get to over 50% disapproval than it is to be under 50% approval.
    Just remember GW won that race buy an alltime record never seen in this country.
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:20 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said
    TropicalMark said
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    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
    LMAO.. What kind of pathetic 'twist' is that supposed to be?


    There's usually a pretty wide gap between what you approve of and what you disapprove of. It's more difficult to get to over 50% disapproval than it is to be under 50% approval.
    Just remember GW won that race buy an alltime record never seen in this country.


    Go with that argument. Things are going to get worse for this Administration - possibly a whole lot worse on three fronts: economy and jobs, stimulus spending to politically connected firms like Solyndra, and of course the plethora of programs under the ATF where it is increasingly emerging that the White House knew of the plan to encourage gun smuggling that now has a death tally of over 80 as a result of the programs. People fundamentally disagreed with GWB's choices - it wasn't driven by scandal.

    I will say however, if I were able to, I would have voted for Obama, as this would have been absolutely disastrous to have happened under McCain - and I have little doubt he would have been a Keynesian in his approach as well.
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:24 PM GMT
    Note that Rasmussen which has been more accurate than Gallup in the past because it looks to likely voters. Rasmussen is showing a much more negative outlook on Obama:

    obama_approval_index_october_6_2011.jpg

    obama_total_approval_october_6_2011.jpg

    It's still early though.
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:29 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said
    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
    LMAO.. What kind of pathetic 'twist' is that supposed to be?


    There's usually a pretty wide gap between what you approve of and what you disapprove of. It's more difficult to get to over 50% disapproval than it is to be under 50% approval.
    Just remember GW won that race buy an alltime record never seen in this country.


    Go with that argument. Things are going to get worse for this Administration - possibly a whole lot worse on three fronts: economy and jobs, stimulus spending to politically connected firms like Solyndra, and of course the plethora of programs under the ATF where it is increasingly emerging that the White House knew of the plan to encourage gun smuggling that now has a death tally of over 80 as a result of the programs. People fundamentally disagreed with GWB's choices - it wasn't driven by scandal.

    I will say however, if I were able to, I would have voted for Obama, as this would have been absolutely disastrous to have happened under McCain - and I have little doubt he would have been a Keynesian in his approach as well.
    You sure love to latch on to unfounded hyperbole dont you?
    Until anything is proven/linked/substantiated, its purely speculation, as was the case with the Bush administration and every other admin..
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    Oct 06, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
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    TropicalMark said
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    TropicalMark saidAnd your point is? Yawn......................


    Obama joins the two most recent fellow Democrats (Clinton and Carter) and two recent Republicans (Reagan and Ford) in falling below 50% approval within the first year in office.


    *disapproval is not the same as approval.
    LMAO.. What kind of pathetic 'twist' is that supposed to be?


    There's usually a pretty wide gap between what you approve of and what you disapprove of. It's more difficult to get to over 50% disapproval than it is to be under 50% approval.
    Just remember GW won that race buy an alltime record never seen in this country.


    Go with that argument. Things are going to get worse for this Administration - possibly a whole lot worse on three fronts: economy and jobs, stimulus spending to politically connected firms like Solyndra, and of course the plethora of programs under the ATF where it is increasingly emerging that the White House knew of the plan to encourage gun smuggling that now has a death tally of over 80 as a result of the programs. People fundamentally disagreed with GWB's choices - it wasn't driven by scandal.

    I will say however, if I were able to, I would have voted for Obama, as this would have been absolutely disastrous to have happened under McCain - and I have little doubt he would have been a Keynesian in his approach as well.
    You sure love to latch on to unfounded hyperbole dont you?
    Until anything is proven/linked/substantiated, its purely speculation, as was the case with the Bush administration and every other admin..


    Unfounded hyperbole? What precisely is hyperbole? What's the speculation on the ATF scandal? Or Solyndra? But go with that. Checking Intrade this morning, it shows that the Republican nominee will likely be ... Mitt Romney, with 70% odds for Republican control of both Houses. On this trajectory, 2012 will be absolutely disastrous for Democrats...

    I'm not sure this is a good thing. I hope more tea partiers get elected to balance off the tendency of big government Republicans.
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    Oct 06, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
    Ho Hum...... Americans disapprove of the President

    Ever ask the question .... How much they disapprove of Congress?
    Americans are down on government .... And rightly so

    But try pollen the numbers on Teapartiers and you'll get a whole new perspective on where we are right now


    But I bet you're not gonna do that are ya ..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 06, 2011 6:08 PM GMT
    I'll take the liberty of cross posting this here. I also posted this one in a Herman Cain thread.

    It pretty accurately IMO sums up what’s going on right now from a CRE perspective. The net of it is that we’re pretty much done with Obama. He doesn't quite say it that way, but it's what he means.

    The Economic Outlook for Investors and Decision Makers

    In this 28-minute session, Mark Dotzour, Ph.D., Chief Economist and Director of Research for the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University, reviews the outlook for job growth in the next twelve months and what he describes as a “bi-polar” commercial real estate market. This is a fast-moving half-hour of insight and analysis for commercial real estate professionals. Listen here»

    http://newsletter.cbrnews.info/t.aspx?n=1054&l=1671

    (the link should work)
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    Oct 06, 2011 6:16 PM GMT
    In my four weeks in the US. One was to hear many an American voter, hanging out for the next election, so there can be a change of government. At least 25 years ago when you had president Reagan whom replaced that weak Carter. You also had Bob Hope and Johnny Cash, now you have Obama, no Hope or Cash too. It dose seem the people of America are disappointed that the change Obama gave them is in their pockets.

    Time to stop blaming Bush, and stat to scream demands of what has Obama done to fix it? sad this is, in reality he has only made things worse; thank God he did not have to deal with 9/11 too as President Bush did.
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    Oct 06, 2011 6:50 PM GMT
    I worked in Republican politics for long enough to know that Obama's failings aren't without a good amount of assistance from his loyal opposition. It took him long enough to figure out but I think he might be ready to give the Rs the Hell they've been asking for.
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    Oct 06, 2011 7:01 PM GMT
    GaGuy44 saidI worked in Republican politics for long enough to know that Obama's failings aren't without a good amount of assistance from his loyal opposition. It took him long enough to figure out but I think he might be ready to give the Rs the Hell they've been asking for.


    Given how disorganized the Republicans have been so far, and how much the press has covered for him, most of his wounds are definitely self inflicted.
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    GaGuy44 saidI worked in Republican politics for long enough to know that Obama's failings aren't without a good amount of assistance from his loyal opposition. It took him long enough to figure out but I think he might be ready to give the Rs the Hell they've been asking for.


    Given how disorganized the Republicans have been so far, and how much the press has covered for him, most of his wounds are definitely self inflicted.


    The press has covered some crazy as batshit talking points that I never thought Rs could get away with. Proves the press may love liberals but they are scared of the rightwingers and do a lot more to disseminate the whackadoodle messages. Hey, it's what I see.
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    Oct 06, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    A weakened President is damaging to the U.S. overall.

    As for Eric Holder. If he knew best he should step down. An investigation surely would line up with the election.
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    Oct 06, 2011 7:45 PM GMT
    This is so hilarious. There are no scandals within the administration that mean anything to the vast majority of American people.

    The entire Republican presidential field is imploding on a daily basis. And now Rubio, who they thought wound save them with Latinos is out as a possible VP?

    And other recent polls show that Americans by significant 5-10 point margins trust Obama on economy, national security, and a host of other kitchen table issues, than they do the Republican Party, Congress or any of the GOP candidates.
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    Oct 06, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThis is so hilarious. There are no scandals within the administration that mean anything to the vast majority of American people.

    The entire Republican presidential field is imploding on a daily basis. And now Rubio, who they thought wound save them with Latinos is out as a possible VP?

    And other recent polls show that Americans by significant 5-10 point margins trust Obama on economy, national security, and a host of other kitchen table issues, than they do the Republican Party, Congress or any of the GOP candidates.


    If Republicans can't even secure approval on security they really should just pack up and go home.
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    Oct 06, 2011 8:05 PM GMT
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    If Republicans can't even secure approval on security they really should just pack up and go home.


    I wouldn't hold your breath on that happening. Just sayin'...
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    Oct 06, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThis is so hilarious. There are no scandals within the administration that mean anything to the vast majority of American people.

    The entire Republican presidential field is imploding on a daily basis. And now Rubio, who they thought wound save them with Latinos is out as a possible VP?

    And other recent polls show that Americans by significant 5-10 point margins trust Obama on economy, national security, and a host of other kitchen table issues, than they do the Republican Party, Congress or any of the GOP candidates.


    What poll is that?
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    Oct 06, 2011 8:24 PM GMT
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    GQjock saidHo Hum...... Americans disapprove of the President

    Ever ask the question .... How much they disapprove of Congress?


    But Congress isn't running for re-election to the Presidency, which is what this topic is about.


    Awwww..... But they are running for reelection aren't they? Last I heard

    LOL ..... How's Mitt Rominey doin in your polls ? Have you asked the tea party about him lately?

    Or How about the marvelous debating skills of the miracle in Texas ?

    It ain't the president who should be worried it's the paltry panel of predictability on the right we got there

    How's that for alliteration.... ? icon_wink.gif

    Maybe there's a republican in Guam you haven't looked at
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    Oct 06, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    Disapproval of Congress has just reached a record high too.
    http://news.yahoo.com/us-approval-congress-hits-record-low-poll-142537755.html
    Public sentiment about ALL politicians is low.
    But, even Repubs recognize that the GOP field is a bunch of losers.
    That's why they're still desperately hoping for some new Repub candidate to emerge.
    The ones who are running are all unappealing - and saddled with baggage that make them weak candidates.

    Also - note that the poll in the link finds that Americans trust President Obama to create jobs more than the Repubs by a 49% to 34% margin.
    Jobs is issue #1 with Americans - and Obama is smartly positioning himself to win the majority of the votes of the many many Americans who were thrown out of work by the Bush recession.
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    Oct 06, 2011 8:54 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidNote that Rasmussen which has been more accurate than Gallup in the past because it looks to likely voters. Rasmussen is showing a much more negative outlook on Obama:

    obama_approval_index_october_6_2011.jpg

    obama_total_approval_october_6_2011.jpg

    It's still early though.




    Jeez, you Repubs live in an alternate reality.
    The actual fact is that that's total bullshit.
    Rasmussen was found to be the most "BIASED AND INACCURATE" of all pollsters in election 2010.
    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

    FYI - Rasmussen has a "much more negative outlook on Obama" because Rasmussen is a biased operation that's part of the pro-right-wing propaganda machine.