CHRISTIAN LEADER: DONT VOTE ROMNEY

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    Oct 07, 2011 8:52 PM GMT
    Romney is not a christian. He is mormon and belongs to a "cult." Voting for Romney would give credibility to a cult.

    Implications for the Romney campaign?
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    Oct 07, 2011 9:01 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidRomney is not a christian. He is mormon and belongs to a "cult."

    Implications for the Romney campaign?


    He won't be one of the final candidates.

    Honestly, I'm surprised he's still running. In my view, they are only tolerating him because he is toeing their line.
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    Oct 07, 2011 9:04 PM GMT
    Fyi quote came from Rev Robert Jeffries from First Baptist Church of Dallas at Values Voters Summit
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    Oct 07, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
    Im interested to hear cjaz response after i mentioned southern conservative christian voters wouldnt support Romney because of religion or Cain because of race in a previous thread. He said i wasnt giving them enough credit to look beyond religion/race.
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    Oct 08, 2011 12:12 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidIm interested to hear cjaz response after i mentioned southern conservative christian voters wouldnt support Romney because of religion or Cain because of race in a previous thread. He said i wasnt giving them enough credit to look beyond religion/race.


    I also heard that interview. Very disappointing, but not surprising. Once again - Baptists! I understand, and I've listened to this enough for years from Baptist friends regarding Church of LDS and also some about Catholicism. This why it makes it more unlikely that we'll see Huntsman on the same ticket with Romney.

    "southern conservative christian voters wouldnt support Romney "

    However, it doesn't make this necessarily true.
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    Oct 08, 2011 12:47 AM GMT
    The fact that Cain is a Baptist pastor might have something to do with this icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 08, 2011 1:28 AM GMT
    "religion" rears its vile head again..

    "religion" is one of the reasons this country was founded and not in the way religionists "think" it was. If allowed it will destroy this country and every institution in it. Its already destroying the GOP.
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    Oct 08, 2011 5:31 AM GMT
    In fact Romney be long the The Church of " Jesus" Christ of Latter Day Saints.
    He Religion has Jesus's Name it in, they Also use the King James Bible too; yep that sure does make him a Christain.............
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    Oct 08, 2011 5:35 AM GMT
    pattison saidIn fact Romney be long the The Church of " Jesus" Christ of Latter Day Saints.
    He Religion has Jesus's Name it in, they Also use the King James Bible too; yep that sure does make him a Christain.............


    But yet u claimed in previous posts that mormons cant be trusted and beware the mormon smile. What a hypocrite!
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    Oct 08, 2011 6:28 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidIm interested to hear cjaz response after i mentioned southern conservative christian voters wouldnt support Romney because of religion or Cain because of race in a previous thread. He said i wasnt giving them enough credit to look beyond religion/race.


    I'm not surprised that your short-sightedness would suggest that the words of ONE Reverend at a Baptist Church in Texas would speak for all Christians, or even all Christians in the south. The backlash against this Reverend has already been resounding. It was a bigoted and wrong thing for him to say. He does not speak for all Christians in the south. I suppose one could argue that "Baptist" is a cult, but that doesn't make it true either.
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    Oct 08, 2011 2:23 PM GMT
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    catfish5 saidIm interested to hear cjaz response after i mentioned southern conservative christian voters wouldnt support Romney because of religion or Cain because of race in a previous thread. He said i wasnt giving them enough credit to look beyond religion/race.


    I'm not surprised that your short-sightedness would suggest that the words of ONE Reverend at a Baptist Church in Texas would speak for all Christians, or even all Christians in the south. The backlash against this Reverend has already been resounding. It was a bigoted and wrong thing for him to say. He does not speak for all Christians in the south. I suppose one could argue that "Baptist" is a cult, but that doesn't make it true either.


    The Rev Jeffries has a huge following here. And the official southern baptist convention agrees with him that mormonism is a cult. Jeffries has also said that a vote for Romney will put Obama back in the WH. Has to be a bit disconcerting for the Romney campaign.
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    Oct 08, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
    Perry has come out publicly to say that mormonism is not a cult. However, the AFA backs Rev Jeffries. Looks like this is having a snowball effect. Cjaz- where is the backlash u mentioned. Havent heard any.
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    Oct 08, 2011 3:39 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    The Rev Jeffries has a huge following here. And the official southern baptist convention agrees with him that mormonism is a cult. Jeffries has also said that a vote for Romney will put Obama back in the WH. Has to be a bit disconcerting for the Romney campaign.



    I don't think Reverend Jeffries bigoted statements will be any more affective in taking down Romney than Reverend Wright's were in taking down Obama. Mitt Romney & Jon Huntsman are both Mormons and by all accounts men of great integrity, solid family values, and great personal success and experience. The USA would be lucky to have either one of them as their POTUS. I have never known a Mormom who was not a 100% quality person. I refuse to believe that someone's faith is going to keep them from being elected. Time will tell if Americans can rise above that kind of bigotry. I believe they can, and they will.
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    Oct 08, 2011 4:45 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    You look at Romney and see integrity and personal success?



    Yep. In fact, I think he is arguably one of the squeakiest clean Presidential candidates to come down the pike in decades. Is he perfect? Not by a long shot, no candidate is. However, in The Bigger Picture, America would be blessed to have either Romney or Huntsman in The White House.
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    Oct 08, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said
    You look at Romney and see integrity and personal success?



    Yep. In fact, I think he is arguably one of the squeakiest clean Presidential candidates to come down the pike in decades. Is he perfect? Not by a long shot, no candidate is. However, in The Bigger Picture, America would be blessed to have either Romney or Huntsman in The White House.




    If it weren't for his caving on one issue after another to the Far Right Fundamentalists, as well as his view of Corps being people, he might attract a lof of disgusted dems. But you know as well as I do that he will go along with them and the TBaggers on their social agenda to get their votss.

    This time around whether its Romney or Huntsman, its dangerous to trust any republican candidate to do the right thing as apposed to caving to the Far Right. Their mixture of 'god and country' is dangerous.
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    Oct 08, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said
    You look at Romney and see integrity and personal success?



    Yep. In fact, I think he is arguably one of the squeakiest clean Presidential candidates to come down the pike in decades. Is he perfect? Not by a long shot, no candidate is. However, in The Bigger Picture, America would be blessed to have either Romney or Huntsman in The White House.


    I've known many Mormons over the years given that LA has the 2nd highest number of Mormons next to Salt Lake City, and I find them to be not only extremely nice, but of the highest personal integrity.
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    Oct 08, 2011 5:36 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said
    You look at Romney and see integrity and personal success?



    Yep. In fact, I think he is arguably one of the squeakiest clean Presidential candidates to come down the pike in decades. Is he perfect? Not by a long shot, no candidate is. However, in The Bigger Picture, America would be blessed to have either Romney or Huntsman in The White House.


    I've known many Mormons over the years given that LA has the 2nd highest number of Mormons next to Salt Lake City, and I find them to be not only extremely nice, but of the highest personal integrity.




    'NICE' has no merit, when it caves to far right Ideology to the detriment of society.

    'STRENGTH' is what is needed to keep at bay these far righters who are trying to mix 'god and country'. We don't want anyone with a personal version of what god is telling them to do, sitting behind the white house desk. It was bad enough under Reagan with his wife consulting the stars before his making decisions. Surely you've read about the Reagans reliance on the horoscope ? We sure don't need reliance on some 'feelings' from prayer from some of these candidates whose 'feeling called by god' have them running for election for our president.
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    Oct 08, 2011 5:40 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI've known many Mormons over the years given that LA has the 2nd highest number of Mormons next to Salt Lake City, and I find them to be not only extremely nice, but of the highest personal integrity.



    I agree whole-heartedly. I didn't even know anything about what Mormon was until several years ago when I had a roommate who is a gay mormon. One of the funnest, nicest, most principled and intelligent guys I know. I have since met many mormons, not only through him, but just through work, and not a one of them was anything but someone to look up to and admire. I want my President to be someone with values, faith, and principles.
  • Webster666

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    Oct 08, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    Absolutely. Unless something completely unexpected happens, it looks as if Romney will be the Republican nominee. And, a hell of a lot of voters would never vote for a Mormon, because they fear anybody or anything that's different from themselves and their own way of life.
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    Oct 08, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidAbsolutely. Unless something completely unexpected happens, it looks as if Romney will be the Republican nominee. And, a hell of a lot of voters would never vote for a Mormon, because they fear anybody or anything that's different from themselves and their own way of life.



    People assumed the very same thing about voters and Catholics back in the early 60's, and it didn't stop JFK from being elected. Let us not forget JFK's own words regarding Mormons...


  • Mepark

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    Oct 08, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
    Well it's always a good thing for us when a Christian leader says a particular candidate is bad news for them.
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    Oct 08, 2011 8:30 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    I care that he is a weak man with no principles.



    I'm going to bet that millions of Americans would probably beg to differ. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 08, 2011 8:49 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidI've known many Mormons over the years given that LA has the 2nd highest number of Mormons next to Salt Lake City, and I find them to be not only extremely nice, but of the highest personal integrity.



    I agree whole-heartedly. I didn't even know anything about what Mormon was until several years ago when I had a roommate who is a gay mormon. One of the funnest, nicest, most principled and intelligent guys I know. I have since met many mormons, not only through him, but just through work, and not a one of them was anything but someone to look up to and admire. I want my President to be someone with values, faith, and principles.


    I have friends who are devout Mormon plus have done quite a bit of business with them over the years. They have been honest, do what they say they’re going to do, open, and accepting. I don’t have the accolades necessary to describe what I think of the Mormons I’ve met. Are there exceptions out there somewhere, sure, but it’s not been my experience.
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    Webster666 saidAbsolutely. Unless something completely unexpected happens, it looks as if Romney will be the Republican nominee. And, a hell of a lot of voters would never vote for a Mormon, because they fear anybody or anything that's different from themselves and their own way of life.



    People assumed the very same thing about voters and Catholics back in the early 60's, and it didn't stop JFK from being elected. Let us not forget JFK's own words regarding Mormons...




    Fantastic. I hadn't heard this one before. Great find and I agree with JFK completely.