Feel a bit down and out about training

  • sbwlguy

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    Oct 08, 2011 6:23 PM GMT
    I started a new size and strength program tonight and I'm not happy. I felt completely piss weak. I did what felt like pathetic loads and still had to work hard. Maybe I just need to get used to the program.

    Does this happen to anyone else when starting a new program?

    Sigh...
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    Oct 08, 2011 8:22 PM GMT
    It just means you're a pussy. Now stop being a whiny bitch and go kick that program's ass.
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    Oct 08, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
    It's because you just "started a new size and strength program."
    If you were you wanted to be in size and strength, you wouldn't be doing a new program. You would continue whatever you were doing for maintenance.

    Just work the program.
    And follow paulflexes' advice too.
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    Oct 09, 2011 12:01 AM GMT
    Do your routine twice a day. FULL ON. Once in the morning, once in evening (or 5 to 6 hours apart).

    This is not splitting it up. For example, if you do chest today, do your entire chest workout in the a.m. Then do the same workout in the p.m.

    It will stimulate muscle growth.
  • sbwlguy

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    Oct 09, 2011 9:18 AM GMT
    Ermine saidIt's because you just "started a new size and strength program."
    If you were you wanted to be in size and strength, you wouldn't be doing a new program. You would continue whatever you were doing for maintenance.

    Just work the program.
    And follow paulflexes' advice too.


    Nonsense. Following the same program will yield dimishing returns. You have to chop and change.
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    Oct 09, 2011 12:17 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidDo your routine twice a day. FULL ON. Once in the morning, once in evening (or 5 to 6 hours apart).

    This is not splitting it up. For example, if you do chest today, do your entire chest workout in the a.m. Then do the same workout in the p.m.

    It will stimulate muscle growth.


    dont do this for more than a week or so..... maybe two.... without help that will lead to overtraining or injury...

    this is a good way to jump start a new program though
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    Oct 09, 2011 3:10 PM GMT
    sbwlguy said
    Ermine saidIt's because you just "started a new size and strength program."
    If you were you wanted to be in size and strength, you wouldn't be doing a new program. You would continue whatever you were doing for maintenance.

    Just work the program.
    And follow paulflexes' advice too.


    Nonsense. Following the same program will yield dimishing returns. You have to chop and change.


    Read his post... He´s saying that being weak etc at the start of a new program is what you expect and to just keep going, and stop whining.

  • sbwlguy

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    Oct 09, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    sbwlguy said
    Ermine saidIt's because you just "started a new size and strength program."
    If you were you wanted to be in size and strength, you wouldn't be doing a new program. You would continue whatever you were doing for maintenance.

    Just work the program.
    And follow paulflexes' advice too.


    Nonsense. Following the same program will yield dimishing returns. You have to chop and change.


    Read his post... He´s saying that being weak etc at the start of a new program is what you expect and to just keep going, and stop whining.



    Oops. At the time I was reading his post through tears of despair.
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    Oct 12, 2011 7:54 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidDo your routine twice a day. FULL ON. Once in the morning, once in evening (or 5 to 6 hours apart).

    This is not splitting it up. For example, if you do chest today, do your entire chest workout in the a.m. Then do the same workout in the p.m.

    It will stimulate muscle growth.

    I don't see the point of doing the same workout on the same day and I never saw a workout routine that suggested that. Wouldn't it make more sense to do it a few days later so you could give your muscles time to recover from the first workout?
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    Oct 12, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    sbwlguy saidI started a new size and strength program tonight and I'm not happy. I felt completely piss weak. I did what felt like pathetic loads and still had to work hard. Maybe I just need to get used to the program.

    Does this happen to anyone else when starting a new program?

    Sigh...


    In some respects, isn't that point? If you just did a routine that was easy for you, you wouldn't improve. You are supposed to do something that is difficult. It challenges your muscles and shows you where you need to improve.

    I have problems sometimes too. My routines often incorporate some type of balancing, and it's always very frustrating at first.
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    Oct 12, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    This happens often to me. I'm a trainer and I own a small health club. So when it happens I totally beat myself up about it. If I only treated and spoke to myself the same way I did the people I train/use my gym, I'd be a lot happier!!

    Cut yourself some slack, make sure your getting the energy you need from the food you eat, and give it time. Keep a healthy perspective. There are people out there that would kill for your body.
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    Oct 12, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    joe122 said
    JackNWNJ saidDo your routine twice a day. FULL ON. Once in the morning, once in evening (or 5 to 6 hours apart).

    This is not splitting it up. For example, if you do chest today, do your entire chest workout in the a.m. Then do the same workout in the p.m.

    It will stimulate muscle growth.

    I don't see the point of doing the same workout on the same day and I never saw a workout routine that suggested that. Wouldn't it make more sense to do it a few days later so you could give your muscles time to recover from the first workout?


    It will not stimulate growth. It will lead to overtraining and greater frustration. If your goal is not endurance then twice a day training is not right for you, especially if it´s the same workout

    Endurance is different.
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    Oct 12, 2011 8:59 PM GMT
    Read "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe who said to someone asking the same question you are: "You don't sound like a pussy at all. You sound like a normal human being, just like me, who thankfully has a barbell to keep him sane when things get shitty...and realize that one workout out of thousands does not affect your overall progress. Training is a process, not the events of one day."

  • Oct 12, 2011 9:36 PM GMT
    This happens to me pretty much every time I try a new exercise. I always underperform relative to what I expect from myself, beat myself up for it, then get used to the routine, and do much better. I'm sure your performance will improve in a few sessions. Just be a little patient :-)
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    Oct 13, 2011 4:45 AM GMT
    i just started 5 weeks ago. Personal Trainer to get me going, motivate me....
    so far i have been going 5 days a week....Sat and Sun off...
    while the thought of going to the gym every fucking day, get tedious, i do go,and admit to feeling soooo much better when i do.

    Keep it up... lol... both! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM GMT
    what's wrong with benching 10 pnds ?
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    Oct 13, 2011 6:53 PM GMT
    sbwlguy saidI started a new size and strength program tonight and I'm not happy. I felt completely piss weak. I did what felt like pathetic loads and still had to work hard. Maybe I just need to get used to the program.

    Does this happen to anyone else when starting a new program?

    Sigh...


    Sometimes. But usually I can equate shitty work out days to eating shitty things. How's your diet?
  • Latenight30

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    Oct 13, 2011 7:19 PM GMT
    I'm kinda with you sbwlguy. I started something a couple of weeks ago and then my schedule got all thrown about and I can't get it back. I need to. Was hoping to be shirtless by pride, which was last weekend and it didn't happen.
  • sbwlguy

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    Oct 16, 2011 9:16 PM GMT
    adam228 said
    sbwlguy saidI started a new size and strength program tonight and I'm not happy. I felt completely piss weak. I did what felt like pathetic loads and still had to work hard. Maybe I just need to get used to the program.

    Does this happen to anyone else when starting a new program?

    Sigh...


    Sometimes. But usually I can equate shitty work out days to eating shitty things. How's your diet?


    Diet is no problem. I eat healthy.
  • MRGOODMAN

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    Oct 17, 2011 1:16 AM GMT
    Yeahh but mostly when I am over trained. Maybe you just need a few days more than 48 hours to recover. Try maybe a light work out and some low key aerobic training such as on a tread mill or stationary bike or a few good laps in a pool without pushing for speed. You will be fineicon_biggrin.gif