A Second Term for Obama Would Make the United States Go as California Has Gone

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    Oct 09, 2011 1:25 AM GMT
    Tom McClintock had zero chance, but nevertheless was my pick for governor the two or three times he ran. IMO, he makes a big bunch of sense.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/10/08/a_second_term_for_obama_would_make_the_united_states_go_as_california_has_gone_111620.html
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    Oct 09, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    Yes the USA will go the same way as California. In California they have real leaders: Brown, Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein amoung others. California takes care of its people and is tolerant of people of all walks of life. California and its leaders are a great example for the federal government. California should be getting more money from the federal government for doing such a good job. There are red states that receive more funding.
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    Oct 09, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    SoCal, I think you're correct. This is someone's sock acct. Who do you think it might be? Hmmm
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    Oct 09, 2011 5:34 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidSoCal, I think you're correct. This is someone's sock acct. Who do you think it might be? Hmmm



    Clearly he doesn't live in California --- has he ever even visited there?
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    Oct 09, 2011 1:45 PM GMT
    Did ya ever think that a republican would be like a third term for Bush?

    Ya got a very short memory boys these problems we are having were in place way before Obama got into office and his remedies though watered down by concessions to the republicans did avert disaster
    And having a republican at the helm would be EXACTLY that

    Disaster
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    freedomisntfree saidSoCal, I think you're correct. This is someone's sock acct. Who do you think it might be? Hmmm



    Clearly he doesn't live in California --- has he ever even visited there?


    Probably not.
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    Oct 09, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    GQjock saidDid ya ever think that a republican would be like a third term for Bush?

    Ya got a very short memory boys these problems we are having were in place way before Obama got into office and his remedies though watered down by concessions to the republicans did avert disaster
    And having a republican at the helm would be EXACTLY that

    Disaster


    ^^^^
    Agreed!
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    Oct 09, 2011 5:27 PM GMT
    shockandAWeD said
    GQjock saidDid ya ever think that a republican would be like a third term for Bush?

    Ya got a very short memory boys these problems we are having were in place way before Obama got into office and his remedies though watered down by concessions to the republicans did avert disaster
    And having a republican at the helm would be EXACTLY that

    Disaster


    ^^^^
    Agreed!




    Ahhhh, c'mon guys...Have a little faith. Americans will decide what direction they want to take the country in November 2012 and I suspect that, regardless of the outcome of the election, things will start to get better.
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    Oct 09, 2011 5:30 PM GMT
    White my recent times back in the US, saying some place was becoming more like CA, did not ever seem to be said as a compliment. No in fact it seemed more of a put down, and many did not seem to think CA as being progressive, no more of a nanny state..
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    Oct 09, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Ahhhh, c'mon guys...Have a little faith. Americans will decide what direction they want to take the country in November 2012 and I suspect that, regardless of the outcome of the election, things will start to get better.

    Really.
    It looks like the choice is going to be between the Democratic Doormat or the Republican Caveman.

    Hard to see where your optimism is coming from.


    Well, nothing wrong with a little good old-fashioned optimism because no one has a crystal ball and I tend to believe that at the end of the day whoever gets elected to The White House, Democrat or Republican, is going to do their damndest to do what is best for the country. As for "Republican Caveman" not sure which candidate your referring to, but I tend to think that, especially if we are to see a President Romney or a President Huntsman (which I would prefer) than we will be in extremely capable hands with loads of experience to draw from and who will also surround themselves with the very best America has to offer.
  • GQjock

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    Oct 09, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Ahhhh, c'mon guys...Have a little faith. Americans will decide what direction they want to take the country in November 2012 and I suspect that, regardless of the outcome of the election, things will start to get better.

    Really.
    It looks like the choice is going to be between the Democratic Doormat or the Republican Caveman.

    Hard to see where your optimism is coming from.


    While I agree with the Doormat epithet .... that has been Obama's problem all along
    We can't afford another republican administration at this point economically AND socially
    Economically putting in place the very same policies that created this Clusterf**k would give us just that ....another Clusterf**k
    and socially many of the steps we've made esp as gay men will likely be washed away by another republican administration not to mention the probable Supreme Count appoints they'd make

    Sorry there is no optimism in this scenario

    a republican administration would be disaster ..with a capital D
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    Oct 09, 2011 6:13 PM GMT
    GQjock said

    a republican administration would be disaster ..with a capital D



    Or it could be the best thing to happen to this country at this particular time in our history -- especially if it's Huntsman. You just never know.
  • GQjock

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    Oct 09, 2011 6:18 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said

    a republican administration would be disaster ..with a capital D



    Or it could be the best thing to happen to this country at this particular time in our history -- especially if it's Huntsman. You just never know.


    History has proved otherwise
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 09, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said

    a republican administration would be disaster ..with a capital D



    Or it could be the best thing to happen to this country at this particular time in our history -- especially if it's Huntsman. You just never know.


    History has proved otherwise



    The past is littered with bad times happening under both political parties. That's just the facts. Regardless, we are living in a whole different time now, with a completely different set of factors, a changed world, new hurdles and challenges, and these times call for experience and expertise on every level.
  • rnch

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    Oct 09, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    i was never an avid President obama supporter.


    BUT.....


    after carefull consideration of all the GOP candidates.......


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    i shall vote to relect President obama.
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    Oct 09, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
    rnch saidi was never an avid President obama supporter.


    BUT.....


    after carefull consideration of all the GOP candidates.......


    icon_eek.gif



    i shall vote to relect President obama.
    ditto


    But I didnt do 'careful consideration' of about half of the GOP candidates (they weren't worth consideration whatsoever)
  • GQjock

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    Oct 09, 2011 11:04 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said

    a republican administration would be disaster ..with a capital D



    Or it could be the best thing to happen to this country at this particular time in our history -- especially if it's Huntsman. You just never know.


    History has proved otherwise



    The past is littered with bad times happening under both political parties. That's just the facts. Regardless, we are living in a whole different time now, with a completely different set of factors, a changed world, new hurdles and challenges, and these times call for experience and expertise on every level.


    Here's the count. You decide.

    Dwight Eisenhower: 2 recessions
    Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford: 2 recessions
    Ronald Reagan: 1 recession
    George H.W. Bush: 1 recession
    George W. Bush: 2 recessions

    Here are the Democrats:

    John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson: no recessions
    Jimmy Carter: one recession, the briefest of the era
    Bill Clinton: no recessions


    Eight to one: As I say, you decide.
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    Oct 09, 2011 11:22 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThe past is littered with bad times happening under both political parties. That's just the facts. Regardless, we are living in a whole different time now, with a completely different set of factors, a changed world, new hurdles and challenges, and these times call for experience and expertise on every level.

    Typical scenario

    CuriousJockAZ: Trying to be reasonable. Both parties have caused problems in the past, but that parties today are not carbon copies of parties in the past, and that issues today should be the factor, not what party did what in the past.

    Response from the Liberal Mob: CuriousJockAZ, your [sic] delusional, go f*** yourself.

    CuriousJockAZ: Well that response isn't fair, I am trying to look at the big picture, considering all sides.

    Response from the Liberal Mob: CuriousJockAZ, your [sic] delusional, go f*** yourself.

    continues.....
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    Oct 09, 2011 11:28 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    GQjock said

    a republican administration would be disaster ..with a capital D



    Or it could be the best thing to happen to this country at this particular time in our history -- especially if it's Huntsman. You just never know.


    History has proved otherwise



    The past is littered with bad times happening under both political parties. That's just the facts. Regardless, we are living in a whole different time now, with a completely different set of factors, a changed world, new hurdles and challenges, and these times call for experience and expertise on every level.


    Here's the count. You decide.

    Dwight Eisenhower: 2 recessions
    Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford: 2 recessions
    Ronald Reagan: 1 recession
    George H.W. Bush: 1 recession
    George W. Bush: 2 recessions

    Here are the Democrats:

    John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson: no recessions
    Jimmy Carter: one recession, the briefest of the era
    Bill Clinton: no recessions


    Eight to one: As I say, you decide.




    As far as the Dems go, Kennedy and Johnson gave us an economic boom in the 60's. Bill Clinton gave us the best economy ever and now Obama is trying to follow suit and the GOP wont let him fix things.



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    Oct 10, 2011 1:17 AM GMT
    Claude23 saidYes the USA will go the same way as California. In California they have real leaders: Brown, Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein amoung others. California takes care of its people and is tolerant of people of all walks of life. California and its leaders are a great example for the federal government. California should be getting more money from the federal government for doing such a good job. There are red states that receive more funding.





    True, true, true !