Light Bulb Ban

  • masculumpedes

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    Oct 10, 2011 11:39 PM GMT
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    Setting The Record Straight

    I have been getting a large number of phone calls and emails asking me just what exactly is the truth on this light bulb ban? I always start my answer with, "it is NOT a light bulb ban". The fact of the matter is, the Energy Independence and Security Act passed in 2007 by Pres. George Bush merely calls for more efficiency and limits the amount of energy certain light bulbs consume. Furthermore, not all incandescent light bulbs are included in this law.

    Timeline

    January 2009 - Ballasts in Metal Halide fixtures 150W - 500W must met efficiency standards

    July 2010 - No longer mfg many T12 magnetic ballasts

    January 2012 - 100W Incandescent lamps must be less than 72W with lumens (amount of light emitted) between 1490 - 2600.

    July 2012 - No longer mfg many halogen and T12 fluorescent lamps

    January 2013 - 75W Incandescent lamps must be less than 53W with lumens between 1050 - 1489.

    January 2014 - 60W Incandescent lamps must be less than 43W with lumens between 750 - 1049.
    40W Incandescent lamps must be less than 29W with lumens between 310 - 749.

    Not Included In The Law

    Appliance Shatter Resistant
    Blacklight Silver Bowl
    Colored 3-Way
    Infrared Traffic Signal
    Marine Showcase
    Plant Sign Service
    Rough Service And A Few Others


    Regards,

    W. M-W.
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    Oct 10, 2011 11:46 PM GMT
    I switched us over to CFL almost 2 years ago, and I'll look at LED as they become more cost effective. Our energy bill has dropped quite a bit.

    Thank you, George Bush, who signed these standards into law! icon_biggrin.gif
  • masculumpedes

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    Oct 10, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI switched us over to CFL almost 2 years ago, and I'll look at LED as they become more cost effective. Our energy bill has dropped quite a bit.

    Thank you, George Bush, who signed these standards into law! icon_biggrin.gif


    To be completely honest with you, the LED bulbs that we have tried on some of our properties do NOT last any longer than the CFL's that we replaced them with. Of course, it all depends on the fixture and what they are being used for.
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    Oct 10, 2011 11:51 PM GMT
    fuck i just burned out the b-room lamp bulb... i hate those curly ones.... its a shit aweful bright, retina burner.... i like 15w in mst lamps.... makes me look better.... kind like in the dark... hahahaahahahah
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    I've replaced many of the lights in my home with CFLs, but they DO NOT last longer than incandescent bulbs. They are optimized to run for at least several hours. Being turned on in the home for only a few minutes at a time drastically reduces their lifespan. The newer LEDs aren't supposed to have this problem, but they are still too expensive for common use.
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
    Until they get the CRI (color rendering index) of compact fluorescents and LEDs above 90 then they are about useless. The green tent is just not pleasing for creating an inviting mood, plus the dimming can be flickery and just not as pleasant as tungsten. With that said there is nothing quite like the saturation of color that leds can give so its a trade off.
  • jmanorlando

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    Oct 11, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
    I have 4 cfl's and 2 out of 4 didn't last a year, but here is a great catch, you can't throw them in the trash or let's put this another way. You are not supposed to throw them in the trash because they are toxic.

    Sad truth is millions of these toxic time bombs will be heading to landfills and damaging the environment way more than the old fashioned light bulbs.

    Sad that something that should help save the environment will most likely damage it.
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
    I still like incandescent and halogen bulbs. They now make halogen bulbs that fit in common lamp sockets. icon_cool.gif

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    Oct 11, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
    Ya'll 're gonna have to stock up on them jumbo sized 100w incadescents for 'yer easy-bake ovens because they are goin..away....

  • dancedancekj

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    Oct 11, 2011 3:45 AM GMT
    The GE "Reveal" CFL's look a lot better than the "Daylight" 6500K or the "Warm" 4000K CFL's (although the Daylight and Warm bulb work excellent for lighting aquariums and growing plants).

    I would like to invest in LED's, particularly the high output CREE LED's, but they are suuuuper expensive still. I'm going to wait until the tech gets a bit better before I make the move to LED, since that will mean even higher savings in electricity!

    And no, I don't grow pot. Although we can thank the marijuana horticulturists for advances in lighting technology, hydroponic and aeroponic techniques, and a strange explosion in horticultural supplies and tech available for the average joe icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
    In all seriousness, coming from the state with the big 'ole energy crisis from 10 years ago...

    CFL's appear to enjoy oriented with the illuminating part on top, ballast thing at the bottom. If you mount them shiny-end down in a ceiling can, the ballast overheats...and shortens the life.

    A big challenge in all of this is we're told that dimmers save energy and give you something cool to play with. But, CFLs need a special dimmer that is different between Incadescent, Magnetic low-voltage halogen, electronic low-voltage halogen, and most LED fixtures.

    We've got the energy-saving part licked. Just need to get the color temp right and make 'em dimmable with standard incadescent dimmers.

    Check out the Lutron or Leviton websites to see all the info on dimming energy-saving fixtures.

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    Oct 11, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    dancedancekj saidThe GE "Reveal" CFL's look a lot better than the "Daylight" 6500K or the "Warm" 4000K CFL's (although the Daylight and Warm bulb work excellent for lighting aquariums and growing plants).

    I would like to invest in LED's, particularly the high output CREE LED's, but they are suuuuper expensive still. I'm going to wait until the tech gets a bit better before I make the move to LED, since that will mean even higher savings in electricity!

    And no, I don't grow pot. Although we can thank the marijuana horticulturists for advances in lighting technology, hydroponic and aeroponic techniques, and a strange explosion in horticultural supplies and tech available for the average joe icon_smile.gif

    Go to Home Depot or Lowes and check out their LED selection. Some of the ceiling flood lights are just re-badged Cree LED bulbs.
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:58 AM GMT
    The City of New Orleans has an incentive program for LED bulbs. They just agreed to replace ALL of the bulbs in my art gallery for FREE! These bulbs were going to cost me a minimum of 60 bucks each and now I get them for free. Yay! icon_biggrin.gif