The Repub debates tonight

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    Oct 12, 2011 5:34 AM GMT
    I saw bit and pieces of it. I was at the gym and it's boob day on Tuesday. After all, Halloween is in two weeks! No water balloons in there this year. It's 100% me!!! Gotta get those boobs all perky. j/k.

    I was able to watch Charlie Rose’s analysis after the fact. Sounds like it was pretty much Mitt Romney with Rick Perry having another lackluster performance, although not as bad as last time.

    Is Rick Perry 2012’s Fred Thompson from 2008?

    I didn't hear much about Jon Huntsman. Any comments?
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    Oct 12, 2011 6:23 AM GMT
    Jon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
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    Oct 12, 2011 6:48 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.


    What is even more shocking is the people of Texas elected Perry as governor for a record THREE terms!!
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    Oct 12, 2011 6:54 AM GMT
    I don't think Perry wants to run. Sure doesn't seem it. I think he's happy in Austin and Austinites are happy to have him.
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    Oct 12, 2011 7:51 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI don't think Perry wants to run. Sure doesn't seem it. I think he's happy in Austin and Austinites are happy to have him.



    And we are more than happy to let them have him. icon_lol.gif

    Perry did absolutely nothing tonight to help himself. His downward spiral continues, and nothing short of a miracle is going to stop his crash and burn -- which is just fine by me. Tonight was one of the better debates because it was more like a round table discussion. I liked the format a lot. Some of the most substantial dialogue was established here so we could see a clear difference between the candidates. Romney is proving himself consistently over and over. He really had no stumbles.
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    Oct 12, 2011 7:56 AM GMT
    How did Cain do?
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    Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM GMT
    Ooooh I bet someone named Perry is doin a WHOLE lotta Book-learnin tonight
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    Oct 12, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI don't think Perry wants to run. Sure doesn't seem it. I think he's happy in Austin and Austinites are happy to have him.


    Couldnt be farther from the truth. Texans hate Perry. Ive heard many Texas Republicans hope he would relinquish his position as governor while running for Prez. The only reason he gets elected is because he has an R after his name.

    Perry wants to be elected badly. U are just now discovering what Texans already know. Perry is a damn fool who makes stupid off the cuff remarks and expects people to accept them as gospel.
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    Oct 12, 2011 1:53 PM GMT
    jpBITCHva saidOh, who can watch these idiots. I know I can't.


    I'm sure Stalin wouldn't either. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
    LOL the rightwingin pundits last night on the radio slammed Romney for moving to the left... I almost cracked up!
    Aside from the show last night where the panel sounded like the current congress (not one of them agreed on anything) Bachmann used the same threes sentences her handlers taught her in the beginning..
    And Cain sounded like a broken record.. Romney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!
    Thankfully the moderators did NOT allow then to stray off course.. not even a degree!
    Showed me alot. They dont have a clue either on how do deal with a world economy going to shit and major readjustment.
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    Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidRomney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!.



    LOL! The question started with "It's the year 2013....". Of course it was a hypothetical. Anything that asks what you would do in the future of A, B, and C happened is a hypothetical no matter how anyone wants to shake it. It looked to me like people were trying to get Romney on some sort of "Gotcha" question, but Romney wouldn't have it. He was exactly right. The question was a hypothetical and he treated it as such.
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    Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidRomney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!.



    LOL! The question started with "It's the year 2013....". Of course it was a hypothetical. Anything that asks what you would do in the future of A, B, and C happened is a hypothetical no matter how anyone wants to shake it. It looked to me like people were trying to get Romney on some sort of "Gotcha" question, but Romney wouldn't have it. He was exactly right. The question was a hypothetical and he treated it as such.
    "Governor Romney, it's 2013, and the European debt crisis has worsened. Countries are defaulting. Europe's largest banks are on the verge of bankruptcy. Contagion has spread to the U.S. And the global financial system is on the brink." is hardly 'hypothetical'. Its being faced in reality today in Europe.
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    Oct 12, 2011 2:39 PM GMT
    I was REALLY hoping that after the question was posed to Cain about his statement toward those without jobs and those that aren't rich, that they would have asked him the ultimate question as a follow up!
    Mr. Cain, if your statement wasn't directed at the 14 million unemployed, how many of those protesters ARE employed?

    LMAO.. Oh I woulda died to hear that answer!
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    Oct 12, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    Hilarious:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/12/gop-presidential-debate-live
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    Oct 12, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidI don't think Perry wants to run. Sure doesn't seem it. I think he's happy in Austin and Austinites are happy to have him.


    Couldnt be farther from the truth. Texans hate Perry. Ive heard many Texas Republicans hope he would relinquish his position as governor while running for Prez. The only reason he gets elected is because he has an R after his name.

    Perry wants to be elected badly. U are just now discovering what Texans already know. Perry is a damn fool who makes stupid off the cuff remarks and expects people to accept them as gospel.


    Doesn't look like he's all that hated. It doesn't look like he was reelected by the margins that Bush was, but it appears that he did get reelected for two more terms. I just don’t get the impression that he’s all that interested in POTUS. I see Fred Thompson of 2008 in Rick Perry

    "Perry assumed the office of Governor in late 2000, following the resignation of President-elect George W. Bush.[7] He won the office in his own right in the 2002 gubernatorial election, where he received 57.80% of votes to businessman Tony Sanchez's 39.96%.[29] He was re-elected in the 2006 gubernatorial election against three major opponents, polling 39% of votes against runner-up Chris Bell with 29.8%. In the 2010 gubernatorial election, Perry became the first Texas governor to be elected to three four-year terms, polling 54.97% of votes to Bill White's 42.48%.

    In the 2001 legislative session, Perry set a record for his use of the veto, rejecting legislation more than any other governor in any single legislative session in the history of the state since Reconstruction.[32] Although he was more conservative with the veto in later sessions, he had used the veto 273 times as of 2011, more than any other Texas governor."
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    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
    LOL the rightwingin pundits last night on the radio slammed Romney for moving to the left... I almost cracked up!
    Aside from the show last night where the panel sounded like the current congress (not one of them agreed on anything) Bachmann used the same threes sentences her handlers taught her in the beginning..
    And Cain sounded like a broken record.. Romney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!
    Thankfully the moderators did NOT allow then to stray off course.. not even a degree!
    Showed me alot. They dont have a clue either on how do deal with a world economy going to shit and major readjustment.


    There's not all that much depth there with Herman Cain and it's showing. He needs a term or two as senator and then come back and see us about POTUS. He's a nice guy and I like his attitude, but he's not ready.
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    Oct 12, 2011 7:41 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI don't think Perry wants to run. Sure doesn't seem it. I think he's happy in Austin and Austinites are happy to have him.


    The general census among Republicans prior to Perry's reelection was that its better to vote for the R and hope Perry gets indicted/removed from office than vote for the D. Not sure where u get your info from but Texas conservatives in a previous poll overwhelmingly did not support Perry for Prez.

    Perry has never lost an election. He has no intention of losing this election. But he is quickly realizing that his Texas style over-the-top brand of politics and cowboyisms dont translate outside of the south.
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    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
    LOL the rightwingin pundits last night on the radio slammed Romney for moving to the left... I almost cracked up!
    Aside from the show last night where the panel sounded like the current congress (not one of them agreed on anything) Bachmann used the same threes sentences her handlers taught her in the beginning..
    And Cain sounded like a broken record.. Romney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!
    Thankfully the moderators did NOT allow then to stray off course.. not even a degree!
    Showed me alot. They dont have a clue either on how do deal with a world economy going to shit and major readjustment.


    There's not all that much depth there with Herman Cain and it's showing. He needs a term or two as senator and then come back and see us about POTUS. He's a nice guy and I like his attitude, but he's not ready.
    True.. but Herman tried that once already. The constituency flat out said no and sent someone else instead.. "Po" Herman.
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    Oct 12, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
    LOL the rightwingin pundits last night on the radio slammed Romney for moving to the left... I almost cracked up!
    Aside from the show last night where the panel sounded like the current congress (not one of them agreed on anything) Bachmann used the same threes sentences her handlers taught her in the beginning..
    And Cain sounded like a broken record.. Romney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!
    Thankfully the moderators did NOT allow then to stray off course.. not even a degree!
    Showed me alot. They dont have a clue either on how do deal with a world economy going to shit and major readjustment.


    There's not all that much depth there with Herman Cain and it's showing. He needs a term or two as senator and then come back and see us about POTUS. He's a nice guy and I like his attitude, but he's not ready.
    True.. but Herman tried that once already. The constituency flat out said no and sent someone else instead.. "Po" Herman.


    Well, Romney it is. Now for VP? Christie seemed to leave the door open just a bit for VP. That would solve the problem of potentially having two Mormons on the ticket. But then it would be two NE moderate / liberals.
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    Oct 12, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    Two NE liberals on the ticket would be a problem. Im already hearing grumblings that Romney is too liberal for Texans.
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    Oct 13, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidTwo NE liberals on the ticket would be a problem. Im already hearing grumblings that Romney is too liberal for Texans.


    It would be worth to watch/listen to the two NE liberal VP debates - Biden v. Christie.
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    Oct 13, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
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    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
    LOL the rightwingin pundits last night on the radio slammed Romney for moving to the left... I almost cracked up!
    Aside from the show last night where the panel sounded like the current congress (not one of them agreed on anything) Bachmann used the same threes sentences her handlers taught her in the beginning..
    And Cain sounded like a broken record.. Romney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!
    Thankfully the moderators did NOT allow then to stray off course.. not even a degree!
    Showed me alot. They dont have a clue either on how do deal with a world economy going to shit and major readjustment.


    There's not all that much depth there with Herman Cain and it's showing. He needs a term or two as senator and then come back and see us about POTUS. He's a nice guy and I like his attitude, but he's not ready.
    True.. but Herman tried that once already. The constituency flat out said no and sent someone else instead.. "Po" Herman.


    Well, Romney it is. Now for VP? Christie seemed to leave the door open just a bit for VP. That would solve the problem of potentially having two Mormons on the ticket. But then it would be two NE moderate / liberals.
    Can you imagine how much BIGGER Christie will get sitting in that chair? LMAO.. he'll explode. And I'm not paying for his healthcare!
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    Oct 13, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
    Maybe Romney will chose Sarah Palin. Wouldnt hurt to have a snowbilly bimbo delux to appeal to the Str8 men in the Republican party. icon_lol.gif
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    catfish5 saidMaybe Romney will chose Sarah Palin. Wouldnt hurt to have a snowbilly bimbo delux to appeal to the Str8 men in the Republican party. icon_lol.gif
    It did once before.. why not use a strategy for garnering GOP votes that worked before!icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 13, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidJon Huntsman had some good moments but, once again, I think Mitt Romney stood above the rest as the clear winner -- knowledgeable, articulate, charismatic, and Presidential. I truly wish they both weren't Mormon because a Romney/Huntsman ticket would be stellar. Rick Perry really seems to have run out of gas. It's really kind of shocking. I'm glad he has, but I think most people expected him to be a far more formidable candidate than he is proving to be.
    LOL the rightwingin pundits last night on the radio slammed Romney for moving to the left... I almost cracked up!
    Aside from the show last night where the panel sounded like the current congress (not one of them agreed on anything) Bachmann used the same threes sentences her handlers taught her in the beginning..
    And Cain sounded like a broken record.. Romney really screwed up when he was asked a question that wasn't 'hypothetical' but boy did he dance around that one!
    Thankfully the moderators did NOT allow then to stray off course.. not even a degree!
    Showed me alot. They dont have a clue either on how do deal with a world economy going to shit and major readjustment.


    There's not all that much depth there with Herman Cain and it's showing. He needs a term or two as senator and then come back and see us about POTUS. He's a nice guy and I like his attitude, but he's not ready.
    True.. but Herman tried that once already. The constituency flat out said no and sent someone else instead.. "Po" Herman.


    Well, Romney it is. Now for VP? Christie seemed to leave the door open just a bit for VP. That would solve the problem of potentially having two Mormons on the ticket. But then it would be two NE moderate / liberals.
    Can you imagine how much BIGGER Christie will get sitting in that chair? LMAO.. he'll explode. And I'm not paying for his healthcare!


    It sure happened to Al Gore (post VP) so its a possibility for Christie too. Chris Christie for his health, regardless whether he's gonna run in 2016 or 2020 should take a page from Huck and shed a 100 pounds or so. Look at what Huck used to look like. Christie is skinny as compared to this.

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