Tea party fuels rise of Herman Cain. So how can it be racist?

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    Oct 14, 2011 12:31 PM GMT
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Tea-Party-Tally/2011/1013/Tea-party-fuels-rise-of-Herman-Cain.-So-how-can-it-be-racist

    Back in March, when he was simply one among many candidates vying for the top spot in the GOP presidential contest, former pizza magnate and Atlanta talk show host Herman Cain wrote about his relationship with tea party voters: "Could the people who are part of this massive citizens' movement be looking past the color of my skin?"

    As Mr. Cain surged for the first time to the top of the GOP field in one poll on Thursday, buttressed by strong tea party support, his rhetorical question appears prophetic. A new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll gave Cain a 69 percent "favorable" score among tea-party backers.

    Most tea partyers credit the blunt, plainspoken, and happily iconoclastic Cain for being "real" and "not a politician" as the cornerstones of their support. But to many who decry the charge that the tea party is racist, Cain's rise is a none-too-subtle pushback.
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    Oct 14, 2011 1:45 PM GMT
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/14/oreilly_herman_cain_knows_little_of_foreign_affairs.html
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    Oct 14, 2011 2:04 PM GMT
    Cain's rise (which will be short-lived) does not change the inherent racism of the Tea Party's animating principles or change the countless pictures of the President with a bone through his nose.
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    Oct 14, 2011 3:25 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidCain's rise (which will be short-lived) does not change the inherent racism of the Tea Party's animating principles or change the countless pictures of the President with a bone through his nose.


    Oh come on. If they were racist they just wouldn't support him because his skin color would be an issue. Why do you have to make this so "complicatedly mysterious"?
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    Oct 14, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidCain's rise (which will be short-lived) does not change the inherent racism of the Tea Party's animating principles or change the countless pictures of the President with a bone through his nose.


    Oh come on. If they were racist they just wouldn't support him because his skin color would be an issue. Why do you have to make this so "complicatedly mysterious"?


    He has 20% in some polls. So I'll agree that 20% of Tea Partiers aren't racist.

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    Oct 14, 2011 3:39 PM GMT
    Herman Cain's rise is the equivalent of someone saying something racist and then claiming "wait no it's alright, I have a black friend!" Like I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist. They did the same thing with Allen West and Michael Steele.

    But guess what? It's not working, especially since they are doing everything in their power to get away with voter suppression (especially among blacks)
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    Oct 14, 2011 4:03 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said Someone saying something racist and then claiming "wait no it's alright, I have a black friend!"


    Sounds like an rj member that frequents these threads. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said Someone saying something racist and then claiming "wait no it's alright, I have a black friend!"


    Sounds like an rj member that frequents these threads. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Shh don't say anything that would imply race is still an issue in this country, they will call you a racist race warrior and claim you have serious mental health issues, because you know those are totally fair and socially acceptable things for white people to say about black people with valid points around here icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 14, 2011 4:31 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidLike I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist.



    Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah-blah-blah. If the Republicans were seriously going to serve up a "token black guy" (a term in itself that I find offensive), I kind of doubt it would have been Herman Cain. I will reassert my earlier feelings that YOU are one of the biggest racists on RJ.
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidLike I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist.



    Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah-blah-blah. If the Republicans were seriously going to serve up a "token black guy" (a term in itself that I find offensive), I kind of doubt it would have been Herman Cain. I will reassert my earlier feelings that YOU are one of the biggest racists on RJ.


    See what I mean ball junkie? He claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.


    This shit keeps me entertained like you wouldn't believe.
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    Oct 14, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
    No one is saying that the tea party itself is racist
    But is the place where racists go

    Look at it like this ........

    Youre some beer swilling republican yokle from Jesusland Tennesse who gets food stamps and has a rusted pick up truck on cinderblocks out on his lawn
    ........ Where do you think he's gonna go?


    The Green Party? icon_wink.gif
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    GQjock saidNo one is saying that the tea party itself is racist
    But is the place where racists go

    Look at it like this ........

    Youre some beer swilling republican yokle from Jesusland Tennesse who gets food stamps and has a rusted pick up truck on cinderblocks out on his lawn
    ........ Where do you think he's gonna go?


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    Well they ARE suppourted by groups like Stormfront

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t588834/

    Fun Fact: These are Mocktwinkie's own words.

    mocktwinkie said

    Oh please, it was an article saying that the stormfront is hoping to look for recruits within the tea party, not that their message is in any way reflective of theirs. Iran literally views the OWS as purely a struggle to topple capitalism.

    And btw, do you realize that there is a world of difference between someone who is a "white nationalist" and a "white supremacist"? A "white nationalist" would be no different than a group dedicated to black culture and promoting black culture (there are many of these) or a movement like "La Raza" or even "Gay Pride". All of which are "nationalistic" or "groupalistic". A supremacist organization does not seek to promote, it seeks to dominate.


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    Oct 14, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    Look at it like this ........

    Youre some beer swilling republican yokle from Jesusland Tennesse who gets food stamps and has a rusted pick up truck on cinderblocks out on his lawn
    ........ Where do you think he's gonna go?



    I think I just saw him in Central Park on CNN at an Occupy Wall Street rally icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    Racist, schmasist. Like FIF said, I'm more concerned about his astounding lack of basic foreign political affairs.

    And "real" people shouldn't be in politics. The black and white world Cain lives in (no racial pun implied, I swear!!!) simplifies everything far too much, and as has been evidenced the past few years, America has very very complex problems that require major work to solve.
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidHe claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.



    What did I say that is racist? I don't just claim that I find the term "token black guy" offensive, I DO find it offensive. Your assertion that just because an African-American is currently leading polls in the Republican race for the nomination that he must be the "token black guy" is not just a slam on Herman Cain, it's a slam on ALL African-Americans who have done something with their lives and become successful. Can they not earn the recognition or place in the polls simply on their merits? Why in YOUR world does it have to mean they are "the token black guy"? That chip on your shoulder is always out there for all to see.
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidHe claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.



    What did I say that is racist? I don't just claim that I find the term "token black guy" offensive, I DO find it offensive. Your assertion that just because an African-American is currently leading polls in the Republican race for the nomination that he must be the "token black guy" is not just a slam on Herman Cain, it's a slam on ALL African-Americans who have done something with their lives and become successful. Can they not earn the recognition or place in the polls simply on their merits? Why in YOUR world does it have to mean they are "the token black guy"? That chip on your shoulder is always out there for all to see.


    What's racist is the continued assertion from you and other homocons that I am racist when all I'm actually doing is pointing out valid points. If you can't understand that you are even dumber than I thought.
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:33 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidHe claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.



    What did I say that is racist? I don't just claim that I find the term "token black guy" offensive, I DO find it offensive. Your assertion that just because an African-American is currently leading polls in the Republican race for the nomination that he must be the "token black guy" is not just a slam on Herman Cain, it's a slam on ALL African-Americans who have done something with their lives and become successful. Can they not earn the recognition or place in the polls simply on their merits? Why in YOUR world does it have to mean they are "the token black guy"? That chip on your shoulder is always out there for all to see.


    What's racist is the continued assertion from you and other homocons that I am racist when all I'm actually doing is pointing out valid points. If you can't understand that you are even dumber than I thought.


    What is racist here is that you seem to think that if a black man has conservative or republican values, then he must be a token and a tool for the party. Heaven forbid black men think of their own values, or think of their own political beliefs. They have to be yours, or he is just their token.

    BTW Token is an offensive term. Its highly offensive. It doesnt matter if it is token gay man, token asian man, token women, token minority, a token by definition is offensive. You good sir, lack class. And you are a racist bastard.
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidHe claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.



    What did I say that is racist? I don't just claim that I find the term "token black guy" offensive, I DO find it offensive. Your assertion that just because an African-American is currently leading polls in the Republican race for the nomination that he must be the "token black guy" is not just a slam on Herman Cain, it's a slam on ALL African-Americans who have done something with their lives and become successful. Can they not earn the recognition or place in the polls simply on their merits? Why in YOUR world does it have to mean they are "the token black guy"? That chip on your shoulder is always out there for all to see.


    What's racist is the continued assertion from you and other homocons that I am racist when all I'm actually doing is pointing out valid points. If you can't understand that you are even dumber than I thought.


    What is racist here is that you seem to think that if a black man has conservative or republican values, then he must be a token and a tool for the party. Heaven forbid black men think of their own values, or think of their own political beliefs. They have to be yours, or he is just their token.

    BTW Token is an offensive term. Its highly offensive. It doesnt matter if it is token gay man, token asian man, token women, token minority, a token by definition is offensive. You good sir, lack class. And you are a racist bastard.


    Any person of color who is willing to sit in the back of the bus simply to make their handlers feel better is pretty much an uncle tom. To claim you are not "African-American" is to spit on the history and contributions of those that came before you.
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidLike I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist.



    Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah-blah-blah. If the Republicans were seriously going to serve up a "token black guy" (a term in itself that I find offensive), I kind of doubt it would have been Herman Cain. I will reassert my earlier feelings that YOU are one of the biggest racists on RJ.


    See what I mean ball junkie? He claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.


    This shit keeps me entertained like you wouldn't believe.


    Your illness isn't all that entertaining to many of us. You become what you think!
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidHerman Cain's rise is the equivalent of someone saying something racist and then claiming "wait no it's alright, I have a black friend!" Like I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist. They did the same thing with Allen West and Michael Steele.

    But guess what? It's not working, especially since they are doing everything in their power to get away with voter suppression (especially among blacks)


    And in 2008 we had Condi who was under tremendous pressure from the GOP to run, had run, then you would have had you 'token' black girl. Problem is that the numbers are adding up a bit. Now certainly you’re at least a bit familiar with these folks? Notice anything different about their attitudes about life versus yours?
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidLike I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist.



    Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah-blah-blah. If the Republicans were seriously going to serve up a "token black guy" (a term in itself that I find offensive), I kind of doubt it would have been Herman Cain. I will reassert my earlier feelings that YOU are one of the biggest racists on RJ.


    I will give him an easy number ONE in that category.
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    Oct 14, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said Someone saying something racist and then claiming "wait no it's alright, I have a black friend!"


    Sounds like an rj member that frequents these threads. icon_rolleyes.gif


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    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidLike I've said before, his job is not to win it's to be their token black guy, he is a tool to make them appear less racist.



    Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah-blah-blah. If the Republicans were seriously going to serve up a "token black guy" (a term in itself that I find offensive), I kind of doubt it would have been Herman Cain. I will reassert my earlier feelings that YOU are one of the biggest racists on RJ.




    Yeah, they could have picked Alvin Greene:



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    Oct 14, 2011 6:04 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Chainers said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidHe claims he finds "token black guy" to be offensive, and then he goes off on his usual racist bullshit while asserting his opinion is more valid than mine simply because he says so.



    What did I say that is racist? I don't just claim that I find the term "token black guy" offensive, I DO find it offensive. Your assertion that just because an African-American is currently leading polls in the Republican race for the nomination that he must be the "token black guy" is not just a slam on Herman Cain, it's a slam on ALL African-Americans who have done something with their lives and become successful. Can they not earn the recognition or place in the polls simply on their merits? Why in YOUR world does it have to mean they are "the token black guy"? That chip on your shoulder is always out there for all to see.


    What's racist is the continued assertion from you and other homocons that I am racist when all I'm actually doing is pointing out valid points. If you can't understand that you are even dumber than I thought.


    What is racist here is that you seem to think that if a black man has conservative or republican values, then he must be a token and a tool for the party. Heaven forbid black men think of their own values, or think of their own political beliefs. They have to be yours, or he is just their token.

    BTW Token is an offensive term. Its highly offensive. It doesnt matter if it is token gay man, token asian man, token women, token minority, a token by definition is offensive. You good sir, lack class. And you are a racist bastard.


    Any person of color who is willing to sit in the back of the bus simply to make their handlers feel better is pretty much an uncle tom. To claim you are not "African-American" is to spit on the history and contributions of those that came before you.


    Because if they dont agree with you they are a monster right?

    I didnt know black people wanted to ruin the individuality of their own community...
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    Oct 14, 2011 6:04 PM GMT
    Are you right-wingers going to make a new "why the tea party isn't racist" thread every day? Really, how many threads do we need on this EXACT SAME headline? Nineteen? Twenty?

    FYI: People who are legitimately not racist do not have to constantly defend themselves against it. Methinks the Teapublians doth protest too much:

    "New poll - racist Republicans in SC"
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1873931

    "The myth of the ‘racist’ Tea Party"
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1638479

    "NBC Poll: Cain Widens Lead..."
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1877435
    First line:
    Yeah, those racist Republicans and their games....

    "KABC's Larry Elder on Herman Cain and Racism"
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1878790

    "Herman Cain Now Front-Runner Among 'Racist Republicans'"
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1865269

    "Republican Presidential Candidate Herman Cain Wins TeaCon 2011 Straw Poll"
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1853519
    First line:
    I think the story here is by what a large margin he won against Bachmann - even though many in the media has been portraying the tea partiers as racist.

    "Raising Cain"
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1851751
    First line:
    Some important stuff here and especially for one of our RJ members who see race in anything and everything


    Holy overkill Batman. Maybe people think you're racist because you guys are obsessed with race? Just a thought.