I'm sick of all the topic about apple...

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    Oct 15, 2011 11:59 AM GMT
    Okay i'm not a person who hates but really sick of all the topic here about the death of Steve Jobs or anyting related to him really his only one person and million cry about him and million of kids, women dies and no one cries i mean really does he need all of this well feeling good to write this and hope people understand my point of view
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    Oct 15, 2011 12:19 PM GMT
    akeBagdad saidOkay i'm not a person who hates but really sick of all the topic here about the death of Steve Jobs or anyting related to him really his only one person and million cry about him and million of kids, women dies and no one cries i mean really does he need all of this well feeling good to write this and hope people understand my point of view

    Reverse the equation: he was one person who had a major impact on millions of people. In fact, you might make that billions, for although billions do not own an Apple product, Apple innovations have been copied and used throughout the world.

    Most of us only impact the few people immediately around us. That doesn't make our lives intrinsically less precious than a Steve Jobs, but it can make them less news-worthy. In a world of 7 billion people we can't all make the headlines, or all have personal stories written about us. That's reserved for the most exceptional of people (including the exceptionally criminal, vapid celebrities, and anyone else a fickle public finds interesting).

    But all 7 billion of us can't be individually recognized unless we do something to stand out from the crowd. Steve Jobs succeeded in doing that several times over, and his creations touch us every day, as we touch them, like my typing on a Mac keyboard to write this post.
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    Oct 15, 2011 2:10 PM GMT
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  • Oct 15, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
    In all honesty, isn't this topic, in and of itself, ALSO about Apple? Just wondering.
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    Oct 15, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
    I bit the bullet and bought my first iPhone yesterday. I went to see the movie "FOOTLOOSE" with my mom (BIG disappointment by the way -- pales to the original) and as we left I noticed the Verizon store was empty, so I seized the moment and the next thing I know I'm walking out with a new phone almost $400 later. Had to switch carriers from T-Mobile to Verizon. So far I'm finding it pretty cool.
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    Oct 15, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said


    Most of us only impact the few people immediately around us. That doesn't make our lives intrinsically less precious than a Steve Jobs, but it does make them less news-worthy. In a world of 7 billion people we can't all make the headlines, or all have personal stories written about us. That's reserved for the most exceptional of people (including the exceptionally criminal, vapid celebrities, and anyone else a fickle public finds interesting).



    edit: I f'ed up the quotes so this part is my reply:

    You are making two arguments here that actually don't work well together. First you imply that it is about impact, which is frankly almost impossible to measure during or immediately after someone's life. For example,so far as we can tell Jesus died an almost anonymous convict, while the Roman proconsul was certainly well known and thought to be important...well, you get the idea. If we add to that the understanding of "impact" derived from science, particularly chaos theory, then we have to concede that we actually don't have any good way of measuring impact. All of the great things attributed to Edison (we find out later) were invented by other people he hired. SO what we're left with is the public's attribution of "impact" or "greatness" at the moment of death.

    But your second argument is that fame is conferred by a "fickle" public. So is the public weighing the greatness of everyone who dies, or are we just fickle children momentarily distracted by a shiny object? I think the OP has a point that is only reinforced by a media machine that creates its own celebrities and then offers the tautological justification that news about them must be important because they are celebrities. Steve Jobs knew how to manipulate that machine, bravo for him, but he's dead now. I wager that in about a hundred years only a handful of people will remember who he was and the main point of curiosity will be that there was a momentary cult of personality devoted to a guy who sold spoiled consumers overpriced nonsense.

    So let's amend Solon's phrase "Count no man happy until he is dead" and make it "Count no man happy until well after he's dead." Instead of news that focuses on individual celebrities, how about news that talks about the pressing issues of the day? Wouldn't that be nice?
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    Oct 15, 2011 3:03 PM GMT
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    akeBagdad saidOkay i'm not a person who hates but really sick of all the topic here about the death of Steve Jobs or anyting related to him really his only one person and million cry about him and million of kids, women dies and no one cries i mean really does he need all of this well feeling good to write this and hope people understand my point of view

    Reverse the equation: he was one person who had a major impact on millions of people. In fact, you might make that billions, for although billions do not own an Apple product, Apple innovations have been copied and used throughout the world.

    Most of us only impact the few people immediately around us. That doesn't make our lives intrinsically less precious than a Steve Jobs, but it does make them less news-worthy. In a world of 7 billion people we can't all make the headlines, or all have personal stories written about us. That's reserved for the most exceptional of people (including the exceptionally criminal, vapid celebrities, and anyone else a fickle public finds interesting).

    But all 7 billion of us can't be individually recognized unless we do something to stand out from the crowd. Steve Jobs succeeded in doing that several times over, and his creations touch us every day, as we touch them, like my typing on a Mac keyboard to write this post.


    Agree 100%. This man had an impact on everyone in the entire world.
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    Oct 15, 2011 3:11 PM GMT
    akeBagdad saidOkay i'm not a person who hates but really sick of all the topic here about the death of Steve Jobs or anyting related to him really his only one person and million cry about him and million of kids, women dies and no one cries i mean really does he need all of this well feeling good to write this and hope people understand my point of view

    Is there a reason you can't ignore the threads that don't interest you?
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    Oct 15, 2011 3:47 PM GMT
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    akeBagdad saidOkay i'm not a person who hates but really sick of all the topic here about the death of Steve Jobs or anyting related to him really his only one person and million cry about him and million of kids, women dies and no one cries i mean really does he need all of this well feeling good to write this and hope people understand my point of view

    Is there a reason you can't ignore the threads that don't interest you?


    It's called being a drama queen...

    You're registered here a week and your sick of it already

    Socal has a point
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    Oct 15, 2011 3:49 PM GMT
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    akeBagdad saidOkay i'm not a person who hates but really sick of all the topic here about the death of Steve Jobs or anyting related to him really his only one person and million cry about him and million of kids, women dies and no one cries i mean really does he need all of this well feeling good to write this and hope people understand my point of view

    Is there a reason you can't ignore the threads that don't interest you?


    It's called being a drama queen...

    You're registered here a week and your sick of it already

    Socal has a point



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    Oct 15, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
    Haha no just sick that many people talk about that on tv, in real life you know to much is too much simple like that and there thing much more important and im not sorry for my treat i meam what i write
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    Oct 15, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
    How dare you this guy was an innovator stop bitchin' and get over it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 15, 2011 5:45 PM GMT
    When something like Jobs' death calls great attention to a major figure we get a large dose of media. It happens. It will pass. Jobs' contributions, personality, style and impact will take a while to sort out, but the attention will go away soon and leave the sorting to history

    OP, just do your best to tolerate and ingnore where possible and give it a week or two. The media simply do not have the attention span to sustain coverage for very long.
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    Oct 15, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI bit the bullet and bought my first iPhone yesterday. I went to see the movie "FOOTLOOSE" with my mom (BIG disappointment by the way -- pales to the original) and as we left I noticed the Verizon store was empty, so I seized the moment and the next thing I know I'm walking out with a new phone almost $400 later. Had to switch carriers from T-Mobile to Verizon. So far I'm finding it pretty cool.

    I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences with it. For once I'm not rushing to buy the 4S, holding back to see the real-world reviews. Remember the antenna fiasco with the 4? And I've got iOS 5 installed on my 4 now, so already using some of those new features.

    If I do buy, it'll likely be a white 64GB. Hubby gets my black 4, so that way we won't be confusing our phones, since externally they otherwise will look mostly alike. Right now he's got my previous 3GS.
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    Oct 15, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
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    Oct 15, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    GreenHopper said293912_10150412816693064_787498063_10201


    Mike Daisey goes after Apple, the late Steve JobsNormally, the launch of a new Apple device such as the iPhone 4S would make Mike Daisey salivate. But not this year.

    Daisey, a monologuist in the vein of Spalding Gray and a recovering "Apple fanboy," hasn't upgraded his phone since flying to China to investigate how those smooth, beautifully designed hand-held gizmos are made.
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    Oct 15, 2011 7:30 PM GMT
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    Thanks i approuve that my friend send me this exact pic this morning in my bbm that's why i did this topic thanks and peace bro
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    Oct 15, 2011 7:56 PM GMT
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    Thanks i approuve that my friend send me this exact pic this morning in my bbm that's why i did this topic thanks and peace bro


    Are you sure he didn't send it sometime last week... icon_evil.gif

    *BBM=blackberry messenger
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:00 PM GMT
    Hahah no bro he send it to me this morning lol you have my word yeah on my blackberry messenger i add him yesterday
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    Here's what Siri has been saying to iPhone users:

    http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/14/8323139-my-iphone-says-the-darndest-things-thanks-to-siri
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:38 PM GMT
    Siri, close this dumb thread.
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:43 PM GMT
    I <3 Siri. I think she could turn me straight.
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:59 PM GMT
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    Lol true, not a single scientist, innovator, athlete, doctor and visionary should be recognize until we end hunger in Africa. We should stop talking about Einstein and Darwin for once and also completely eradicate that stupid habit of naming every single discovery after scientists names. Because obviously that's gonna solve the problem. icon_idea.gif
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    Oct 15, 2011 9:14 PM GMT
    have we ended hunger in Appalachia?