Straight Women and Gay Men have different criteria for male attractiveness

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    Oct 15, 2011 9:04 PM GMT
    According to these two articles (and their underlying studies), straight women in more developed countries find men with more feminine features to be more attractive.

    I had a hypothesis that an "attractive" man should be attractive for both gay men and straight women. This is, taking into consideration that, even within the same pool (gay men / straight women), it is impossible to find a man or a group of men who are attractive to this whole pool.

    ut let's take the male physical criteria. Logically, manly features should be attractive to both groups, but it seems they aren't.

    What do you think about this discrepancy? Is it social, biological or a mix of both?

    http://www.sodahead.com/living/women-prefer-girlie-men-are-manly-men-endangered-species/blog-289605/

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/19888/girlie-man-nation-western-women-dont-want-masculinity-why-decade-of-the-palin/
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    Oct 15, 2011 11:10 PM GMT
    well , this i can sort of agree with, at uni , alot of the girls , cheerleaders etc are going for skinny , smooth , tanned , moisturised , quite fake guys,
    not many of these girls go for the hairy, big , muscled , stud rugby type guys , this is quite similar in the society today, as more guys are becoming this sort of fake, orange, plucked , smooth men (talking about straight guys ere btw) , sort of what the whole trend is
    its probably my taste, but just like the guy who started this thread who is a hairy muscled stud, is what in my taste of men is AWESOME :-)
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    Oct 15, 2011 11:24 PM GMT
    JakeGHK saidDon't believe it. They want the same kind of man. They just dont want double dippers per se. Women want a masculine man who knows what grooming means.

    True.
    Depends on how wide their audience was and age/culture/ethnicity/lifestyle of audience. It was a bit presumptuous to relate feminine men to lower mortality though. And then to connect them all to politics of health care. There are many other reasons why mortality is low-vaccines, antibiotics, lack of general costly warfare, etc.

    Publically-funded health care is not a reason for low mortality.
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    Oh yuck. I know what you mean!

    I like men who are beefy and hairy. The girls I know like men who are lanky and pretty. Just check out Korean boy bands. That's their image of ideal.

    When my classmates gush over them, or guys around that look like them, I kinda cringe. I'm all about being comfortable with one's sexuality, and not minding expressions of sensitivity etc. but really, put on a skirt and you'll have a girl!

    I also like the way a guy can smell, and I think sweaty guys are kinda hot. Girls think it's the grossest thing ever. Body hair as well. I love it, but they'll have none of it!

    On the other hand, I do think there is a certain universal attractiveness. There are some guys who generally don't fit my 'type' but I think they're really good looking, and the females I know seem to like that type too, despite them not looking feminine in the slightest.
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:10 AM GMT
    gymfreak1987 saidhairy, big , muscled , stud rugby type guys

    YUM!

    gymfreak1987 saidjust like the guy who started this thread who is a hairy muscled stud, is what in my taste of men is AWESOME :-)

    For sure! And you too, handsome!

    I'm not that type, though icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:14 AM GMT
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:15 AM GMT
    nicerough said

    On the other hand, I do think there is a certain universal attractiveness. There are some guys who generally don't fit my 'type' but I think they're really good looking, and the females I know seem to like that type too, despite them not looking feminine in the slightest.


    I totally agree with that
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:15 AM GMT
    gymfreak1987 said
    its probably my taste, but just like the guy who started this thread who is a hairy muscled stud, is what in my taste of men is AWESOME :-)


    thanks handsome icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:16 AM GMT
    Depends if they're top or bottom I guess.
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:19 AM GMT
    waimea saidDepends if they're top or bottom I guess.


    Straight women take that into consideration?
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:19 AM GMT
    I think Asian women prefer feminine features, where Western culture is more absorbed into the hyper-masculine thing...



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    Men's taste? I definitely think it varies, but have personally noticed an overall gravitation toward the younger, more innocent types (Maybe slightly feminine features)
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:24 AM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidI think Asian women prefer feminine features, where Western culture is more absorbed into the hyper-masculine thing...



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    Men's taste? I definitely think it varies, but have personally noticed an overall gravitation toward the younger, more innocent types (Maybe slightly feminine features)


    I love Eeteuk's and Shiwon's hairstyles, I'M JELLY!
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:27 AM GMT
    Then again, for the tween marketing scheme, feminine looking men are "non-threatening" males. As in, they are attractive, and possess enough masculine features to be considered male, but represent a pretty boy ideal, as opposed to a hypermasculine rough dude that generally doesn't fit into that marketing scheme (groomed, plastic and trendy) and may give off the impression of a dominant alpha male (aka pedobear/rapist vibe IMO). The Disney Channel, boy bands, K-pop, Soap Operas, Twilight are all the "Teen Heart-Throbs" that are examples.
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:31 AM GMT
    dancedancekj saidThen again, for the tween marketing scheme, feminine looking men are "non-threatening" males. As in, they are attractive, and possess enough masculine features to be considered male, but represent a pretty boy ideal, as opposed to a hypermasculine rough dude that generally doesn't fit into that marketing scheme (groomed, plastic and trendy) and may give off the impression of a dominant alpha male (aka pedobear/rapist vibe IMO). The Disney Channel, boy bands, K-pop, Soap Operas, Twilight are all the "Teen Heart-Throbs" that are examples.



    Absolutely, except for the "Soap Operas" Example...

    I'd say that a Soap Opera heart throb is the, "I could beat up your husband and then carry you inside and throw you on the bed, ever-so-softly" type of guy... ;-)
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:36 AM GMT
    waimea saidDepends if they're top or bottom I guess.


    I agree, of course not ALL tops are like that, but tops, based on experience, prefer men with more feminine features and vice-versa, I mean look at me, I've been told I'm too pretty for a guy, whatever that means icon_lol.gif, and I've never had any trouble getting laid by the muscular men that I like icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif