The San Francisco and San Jose Occupy protesters - update.

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    Oct 16, 2011 3:34 AM GMT
    So my own mother and a number of her friends - ladies in their 60's and 70's - society matrons, some would call them - have been out helping the protesters in The City and down in San Jose. These ladies are using their influence socially and with their own money are buying healthy restaurant foods, coffees and teas from Starbucks, gift certificates. The ladies are seeking permission from clergy heads for the protesters to pitch their tents on various church properties. They're obtaining legal services for those protesters who get themselves arrested. My mother said she has worked tirelessly and enjoyed talking with a lot of the people. Most of them, she said are "Kids who answered the call for activists, and they are mainly there for the food. Many of them are just going from one cause to another, and aren't really sure what this is all about. They are hungry, and many are living in tents. We are asking the local clergy to help them and we are calling on the chief of police to stop arresting them. Most of them are just kids or unfortunate lost souls after all. My friends and I want to help comfort them and be sure they're not hungry or unduly harmed."
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    Oct 18, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    My mother and her friends are knocking themselves out and spending a lot of time & money trying to help these people, but she's getting more tired of it with each day. She said yesterday she is more convinced than ever that most of them are just misguided and not one bit aware of what this is for. She thinks (after talking to a lot of them) that they are just in it because it seems to be the "place to be" and for the food. I hope she and her friends just drop this and put their energies elsewhere. A lot of other groups need help more than this bunch of rag-tag misfits.
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    Sounds very nice, glad your mother is involved and helping in that way, Gregg. Kudos to her....

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    Oct 18, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidMy mother and her friends are knocking themselves out and spending a lot of time & money trying to help these people, but she's getting more tired of it with each day. She said yesterday she is more convinced than ever that most of them are just misguided and not one bit aware of what this is for. She thinks (after talking to a lot of them) that they are just in it because it seems to be the "place to be" and for the food. I hope she and her friends just drop this and put their energies elsewhere. A lot of other groups need help more than this bunch of rag-tag misfits.


    well at least she figured it out. Good for her.
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    Oct 18, 2011 8:30 PM GMT
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  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 18, 2011 11:40 PM GMT
    It's interesting your mother's experience is the exact opposite of what I've witnessed here in DC, where I walk by the protesters every day on my way to work. The people I've seen and heard speak are a mix of veterans, school teachers, nurses, single parents, and thoughtful young people, most of them college-educated, who realize that a corrupt, greedy elite has ruined our economy.
    I've noticed they're cooking their own food (which they share with homeless people), organizing free concerts downtown, and I've never seen McPherson Square Park look cleaner -- I hope they stick around for a long time...

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    Oct 19, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    Well, the parent organizations leading these otherwise normal citizens, and assorted vagrants, vagabonds, rapscallions, and social misfits in their wake... are a bunch of charlatans and montebanks supported by no less nefarious groups as the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party of the USA.

    Imagine having those two serpents as bedfellows. And if President Obama actually endorses these socialists, it will be handing ammunition to the GOP come the general election.
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    Oct 19, 2011 1:02 AM GMT
    Gotta love the fantasy imagery of this thread:

    SOCIETY MATRONS

    meet

    " assorted vagrants, vagabonds, rapscallions, and social misfits in their wake... a bunch of charlatans and montebanks " .

    GEEZUS PUHLEEZE !

    Now all we need is a superHOT gastroenterologist to come dancing forward in a kilt to make this scene even more delightfully twisted.....

    AND even less of a match of what is going on with the protests.

    The Middle Class is fighting back. Period.
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    Oct 19, 2011 1:12 AM GMT
    The Nazis back anything that could possibly shed a positive light on their brand of cray-cray.

    To include shacking up with OWS or TP.

    And the same for the Commies, who have been looking for relevance in this country longer than either of us have been around.

    Either way, the OWS strikes me as yet another "grass roots" gig getting co-opted by big money.

    Koch Bros. and that guy who owns Fox on the right, Soros and his big media cronies on the left.

    Meanwhile, those of us in the middle will continue to get our daily beatings until the economy improves.
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    Oct 19, 2011 1:55 AM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidWell, the parent organizations leading these otherwise normal citizens, and assorted vagrants, vagabonds, rapscallions, and social misfits in their wake... are a bunch of charlatans and montebanks supported by no less nefarious groups as the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party of the USA.

    Imagine having those two serpents as bedfellows. And if President Obama actually endorses these socialists, it will be handing ammunition to the GOP come the general election.

    You are dreaming, alpha.
    The public approves of the OWS movement by 54%.
    They "approve" the Tea Party at only 27%. (poll taken a couple of days ago)

    And FYI, the Nazis are not part of OWS, no matter what you heard on Fox. They do, however, back the Tea Party. There are some communists that back OWS, but, um, who cares?

    News flash - the OWS will not be on the ballot, neither will the tea party. But how the Democrats are trying to use this is to demonize the financial industry, suggest Wall Street is to blame for all ills, not Washington. Then they will tie the Republicans to Wall Street to deflect blame from absolute failure of an Administration. Not working so far, and the polls continue to show sinking of Obama, along with the view that the public blames Washington more than Wall Street.

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    Oct 19, 2011 1:59 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidNews flash - the OWS will not be on the ballot, neither will the tea party. But how the Democrats are trying to use this is to demonize the financial industry, suggest Wall Street is to blame for all ills, not Washington. Then they will tie the Republicans to Wall Street to deflect blame from absolute failure of an Administration. Not working so far, and the polls continue to show sinking of Obama. http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1889181

    Actually, no, the Tea Party people will be on the ballot, and their popularity is sinking as fast and as far as George Bush's in his last three years in office.

    The American people are smarter than you give them credit for. They know that in fact Wall Street IS one source of their ills, them and the Republican party.

    You have motivated me to start another thread on new poll results.
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    Oct 19, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    FOX did a poll of its own flock of viewers and got a shock when the returns showed 70 percent for the Occupy Protestors, look it up on CommonDreams.org, this was current about 5 days back.
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    Oct 19, 2011 2:35 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidSo my own mother and a number of her friends - ladies in their 60's and 70's - society matrons, some would call them - have been out helping the protesters in The City and down in San Jose. These ladies are using their influence socially and with their own money are buying healthy restaurant foods, coffees and teas from Starbucks, gift certificates. The ladies are seeking permission from clergy heads for the protesters to pitch their tents on various church properties. They're obtaining legal services for those protesters who get themselves arrested. My mother said she has worked tirelessly and enjoyed talking with a lot of the people. Most of them, she said are "Kids who answered the call for activists, and they are mainly there for the food. Many of them are just going from one cause to another, and aren't really sure what this is all about. They are hungry, and many are living in tents. We are asking the local clergy to help them and we are calling on the chief of police to stop arresting them. Most of them are just kids or unfortunate lost souls after all. My friends and I want to help comfort them and be sure they're not hungry or unduly harmed."


    What a delightful and IMPROBABLE story this is. And your Mom is in her 60s or 70s? She must have been a teen mom. Truly a remarkable story.

    And now you've got her out there passing out Starbuck's lattes and gift cards.

    And isn't it a marvelous coincidence that "her" political realizations so well mirror your own?

    Ever seen PSYCHO, Mr. Bates?
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    Oct 19, 2011 2:50 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidWell, the parent organizations leading these otherwise normal citizens, and assorted vagrants, vagabonds, rapscallions, and social misfits in their wake... are a bunch of charlatans and montebanks supported by no less nefarious groups as the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party of the USA.


    So this means the original poster's mother is buying gift cards for Nazis?
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    Oct 29, 2011 12:11 AM GMT
    Update on my Mom and her friends and all their work trying to help and feed the protesters:

    It got to be too much, she said. At 76 years old, and as liberal as they come - my Mom and some of her friends in their 60's and 70's decided they'd had enough. She said the protesters were largely not interested in anything but free food and "the party". She said she personally saw them throwing things at the police - like frying pans and rocks. She saw excrement and urine in the streets. She said the police were rounding up stolen shopping carts full of junk, tents, garbage, propane tanks and using steam cleaning machines to try to clean up the area and the odor. The ladies were fully committed to this project, but have had it. They felt used up, tired, unappreciated and aren't doing this anymore.
  • venusrider

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    Oct 29, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    Ummm....here in Phx Az, these peaceful protesters are distributing information titled "when to shoot a cop". They are unhappy with being arrested for violating a number of laws. Amazing.

    Who, other than other communists, wouldnt be even slightly concerned about being supported by the communist party? Nazis? I recall teaparty folks being called Nazis...but when these protestors are aligned with this party...not even an eyebrow is raised by the democrats.

    These folks should be protesting the federal gov....the responsible party for all our current problems.
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    Oct 29, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    Wow, it seems that the old folks are leading us to The Truth:

    My own dad, hardcore conservative that he is, was just leaving one of his weekly Chamber of Commerce Wor$hip $ervices......

    ......when he suddenly noticed the large crowd in the park. From the distance and with his poor vision, he assumed he'd find disgruntled hippies and assorted anti-America types.

    But filled with curiosity, Dad approached. AND HE LISTENED.

    What a revelation, he says. He found AMERICANS who have had enough with the corruption of paid politicians.........and with the GOP's attempt to make sure that NO FINANCIAL REFORM ever happens.

    Ah well, that's Dad's story.

    Now Jockbod, you may want to see a video of Dad's OWS visit....and of course I'd love to see your Mom's.

    Want to trade tapes?
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    Oct 29, 2011 12:51 AM GMT
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  • venusrider

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    Oct 29, 2011 12:52 AM GMT
    PresentMind saidWow, it seems that the old folks are leading us to The Truth:

    My own dad, hardcore conservative that he is, was just leaving one of his weekly Chamber of Commerce Wor$hip $ervices......

    ......when he suddenly noticed the large crowd in the park. From the distance and with his poor vision, he assumed he'd find disgruntled hippies and assorted anti-America types.

    But filled with curiosity, Dad approached. AND HE LISTENED.

    What a revelation, he says. He found AMERICANS who have had enough with the corruption of paid politicians.........and with the GOP's attempt to make sure that NO FINANCIAL REFORM ever happens.

    Ah well, that's Dad's story.

    Now Jockbod, you may want to see a video of Dad's OWS visit....and of course I'd love to see your Mom's.

    Want to trade tapes?



    So, you agree that the federal gov is solely responsible and is what should be the subject of the protests.
  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 29, 2011 1:09 AM GMT
    The politicians (in both parties) are just employees of the 1%.
    They are bought and paid for.
    Protesting them by itself would be useless.

    The original poster's made-up story is good for a laugh (especially the part about the frying-pan battle), but the bottom line is the system is not working for the vast majority of Americans and needs serious reform.
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    Oct 29, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe politicians (in both parties) are just employees of the 1%.
    They are bought and paid for.
    Protesting them by itself would be useless.

    The original poster's made-up story is good for a laugh (especially the part about the frying-pan battle), but the bottom line is the system is not working for the vast majority of Americans and needs serious reform.
    +1
    ( to include the 'made up' part)
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    KissTheSky said... The original poster's made-up story is good for a laugh (especially the part about the frying-pan battle), but the bottom line is the system is not working for the vast majority of Americans and needs serious reform.

    What exact basis do you have for saying the OP is lying? If you can't prove it or modify your words, you have seriously damaged your reputation with me and I would think others, as well. Saying another member is lying is a serious allegation.
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe politicians (in both parties) are just employees of the 1%.
    They are bought and paid for.
    Protesting them by itself would be useless.

    The original poster's made-up story is good for a laugh (especially the part about the frying-pan battle), but the bottom line is the system is not working for the vast majority of Americans and needs serious reform.


    Sorry there - you're just out of luck. Nothing my mom and her friends saw and experienced while working to feed and help these people was "made up" and you know it. Stop trying to sanitize what a bunch of the protesting trouble makers have done. Watch the evening news to get even more of the story. Yes - frying pans, rocks, bottles, junk, any kind of thing these bums could throw - they threw. Nice of you to try to start trouble. I know why you're so upset - - - - your Obama is blowing it so badly - even his own democrats protested his latest visit to the City the other day. Check it out - and don't whine that you think the story is made up. Check it out. Look at the news or the liberal leaning S. F. Chronicle. Then send me your apology.
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
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    KissTheSky said... The original poster's made-up story is good for a laugh (especially the part about the frying-pan battle), but the bottom line is the system is not working for the vast majority of Americans and needs serious reform.

    What exact basis do you have for saying the OP is lying? If you can't prove it or modify your words, you have seriously damaged your reputation with me and I would think others, as well. Saying another member is lying is a serious allegation.


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    Oct 29, 2011 2:19 AM GMT
    I wish Starbucks wouldn't get involved with helping these losers. I was in London last week down by Saint Paul's Cathedral. Protesters had been camped out there in tents and were using the Starbucks restroom across the street. I was over there drinking a coffee and had to wait in line for the restroom with some of the protesters. These people stunk. The smell was so bad, I had to leave. Much like the protesters in America, they were full of piercings and tatoos. Who would want to hire these people? I wanted to tell them to take showers, pull their pants up above their hips and have some dignity.