Republican Actor Kelsey Grammer Tells Piers Morgan That He's OK With Gay Marriage

  • metta

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    Oct 16, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    Kelsey Grammer Tells Piers Morgan That He's OK With Gay Marriage




    NOTE:
    He mentions that marriage comes out of religion. Historically, that is not true. That is an assumption that the majority of people make that is not true. People should be corrected when they make that error.

    The bible "says" nothing about marriage - what they bible is "talking about" is the rite of holy matrimony and that is not a right, but a religious concept. It is a rite of passage like birth, puberty ceremonies, betrothal, matrimony and death.

    Marriage is a legal concept and always has been. It's about property rights, dowries, bride price, where families will live, who gets what land or goats. Marriage has never been about religion and matrimony is not marriage.

    Marriage was originally a civil ceremony, not a religious one. Marriage was originally about an exchange of property. Women were originally thought of as property. That is why they had dowries.

    "This was done for many different reasons. It was to ensure alliances, binding powerful families together, and strengthening weaker families. It helped people survive in the barbaric era of early humanity. It was also to ensure that a mans children were biologically his. The female children were the mans property which he would bargain off to strengthen the power of his family while the male children would work and bring in money, also strengthening the family. Marriage existed long before Christianity existed, therefore it was created by man for survival purposes."

    Marriage has continuously evolved, and is still evolving today. It has never been static, even though many religious leaders would like you to think otherwise. And to say that only religion has a right to decide who can get married is wrong, at least on a government recognition basis. Do not confuse civil marriage with religious marriage.

    And isn't it a good thing that this has evolved over time and that woman are no longer thought of as property, that you don't have to be white to get married, etc.


    What Does The Bible Actually Say About Gay Marriage?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-jefferson/bible-gay-marriage_b_886102.html
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    Oct 16, 2011 10:30 AM GMT
    You can't be too shocked. If I recall correctly, David Hyde Pierce (his costar for several seasons) ended up married to a man. I don't know if he attended the wedding- but apparently David was "out" to costars and friends for years.

    It surprised me a little more to find Kelsey as a Republican (and supporter of some of the goals of the Tea Party.) I would think that in today's Hollywood being gay is more popular than supporting anything to do with the Tea Party.
  • RSportsguy

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    Oct 16, 2011 1:27 PM GMT
    Frasier was one of the most gay friendly shows with regards to the cast and crew. David Hyde Pierce, Dan Butler and rumor has it that the actor who played Frasier's dad are all gay.
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    Oct 16, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    west77 saidYou can't be too shocked. If I recall correctly, David Hyde Pierce (his costar for several seasons) ended up married to a man. I don't know if he attended the wedding- but apparently David was "out" to costars and friends for years.

    It surprised me a little more to find Kelsey as a Republican (and supporter of some of the goals of the Tea Party.) I would think that in today's Hollywood being gay is more popular than supporting anything to do with the Tea Party.
    You would be VERY surprised at the level of homophobia in Hollywood TODAY. icon_wink.gif
  • rnch

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    Oct 16, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]TropicalMark said...You would be VERY surprised at the level of homophobia in Hollywood TODAY. icon_wink.gif[/quote]


    disappointing...


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  • ac416

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    Oct 16, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
    I always liked him and thought he was smart so this just confirms it. It's always scary to hear any star talk about their views only to find out they're a right wing nut job and never be able to enjoy shows they're on ever again. so can keep watching his reruns icon_smile.gif but whats he's saying about marriage and retaining property is such basic fact that i dont get why more people dont just repeat this when challeneged and end any stupid marriage debates. why cant obama just say this ?
  • rnch

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    Oct 16, 2011 9:15 PM GMT
    ac416 saidI always liked him and thought he was smart so this just confirms it. It's always scary to hear any star talk about their views only to find out they're a right wing nut job and never be able to enjoy shows they're on ever again. so can keep watching his reruns icon_smile.gif but whats he's saying about marriage and retaining property is such basic fact that i dont get why more people dont just repeat this when challeneged and end any stupid marriage debates. why cant obama just say this ?




    perhaps after he is re-elected.
  • GQjock

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    Oct 16, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
    Okay ... Kelsey
    I don't see any ringing endorsements coming from your history with marriage icon_confused.gif