Is milk bad for a lean physique?

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    Oct 16, 2011 3:24 PM GMT
    Hey fellas i just wanted to get your thoughts on milk. I drink a lot of milk every day, but lately I have begun to think that maybe milk is hindering my goal of getting lean and ripped. Along with milk I take in the Kashi brand that has 10 g of protein per serving..
    Anyway, anyone feel this way also?
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    Oct 16, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
    milk is sugary water with a little protein added.

    it´s great for baby cows.
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    Oct 16, 2011 7:17 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidmilk is sugary water with a little protein added.

    it´s great for baby cows.


    This.

    Yeah - beyond the fortified stuff with extra vitamin D and the calcium, it really does its best work with baby cows, and less so for weaned (from human breast milk) infant humans.

    Plus the rBST that is a staple in the production of cows milk probably isn't that good for you.
  • Fritter

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    Oct 16, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    I have wondered myself, if Milk and Milk products are a good source of protien, or overall just not good for ya. I have been using milk,yogurt, cottage cheese etc as a source of protien. Maybe I need to re-think that
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    Oct 16, 2011 8:08 PM GMT
    Aggieboy saidHey fellas i just wanted to get your thoughts on milk. I drink a lot of milk every day, but lately I have begun to think that maybe milk is hindering my goal of getting lean and ripped.


    o_O...as opposed to what you are now which is..not lean?
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    Oct 16, 2011 8:56 PM GMT
    I've been drinking milk since i was a kid - sometimes up to 2 gallons a week - with no ill effects.. if anything I seem to have more of a weight problem when i stopped drinking it a couple years back when i moved. no plans to give it up... ...anyway it goes too well with peanut butter. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 16, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    Like everything else.......moderation. It makes a good post-workout drink, but I I couldn't stand to drink it if I was hot. (I can't have dairy anymore anyway.) It has some protein, vitamins, and minerals, but it also has some sugar. Skim milk is best. I can't imagine that it is having much of an impact on your physique unless you're drinking a huge amount every day.
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    Oct 16, 2011 9:37 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    This is from another post a while back....a guy was drinking 2.5 litres of milk a day....here's the nutritional break down of that much milk:

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    Considering the price of milk, that nutritional breakdown looks like astounding value to a poor student!
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    Oct 16, 2011 9:37 PM GMT
    Hmm. I'm not doubting any of the guys posting the messages up above and I'm inclined to agree with them. I'm just wondering why my doctor recommended I drank milk when I told her I was doing my first half marathon. Maybe it was because of the calcium contents...any ideas guys? (I have a sneaking suspicion my doctor was wrong!)
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    Oct 16, 2011 9:43 PM GMT
    suedeheadscot saidHmm. I'm not doubting any of the guys posting the messages up above and I'm inclined to agree with them. I'm just wondering why my doctor recommended I drank milk when I told her I was doing my first half marathon. Maybe it was because of the calcium contents...any ideas guys? (I have a sneaking suspicion my doctor was wrong!)


    The above posts are for a huge amount of milk, and it looks like whole milk.

    Why wouldn't you drink milk? With the amount of exercise that you are doing for a half marathon, you should easily burn off the fat and sugars. You need a large amount of energy for that much running. The people who should be concerned about milk are the ones who aren't getting enough exercise to burn it off.
  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 16, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
    When I started reading about all the growth hormones, antibiotics and other chemicals that cows are injected with on modern factory farms, I stopped consuming milk altogether. This was years ago and I feel much better... partly because my hay fever / allergies went away.
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    Oct 16, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
    I never understood the fascination with Milk. I had a friend tell me once that Humans are addicted to milk/dairy products. I for one love my damn cheese and can't imagine not eating cheese.

    I stay away from Milk and consume Almond milk for my protein shakes, cereal and coffee.

    I would stay away from whole milk and drink skim.
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    Oct 16, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
    Whenever I drink a lot of milk for an extended period of time I tend to break out a shit ton and also feel and look a little bloated. A lot of studies though show that drinking milk can help you lose weight. I never really saw it helping me at all, so I've switched to almond milk supplemented with some vanilla protein and it's like milk, but a thousand times more delicious and doesnt have a bunch of sugar in it.
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    Oct 16, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
    Aggieboy saidHey fellas i just wanted to get your thoughts on milk. I drink a lot of milk every day, but lately I have begun to think that maybe milk is hindering my goal of getting lean and ripped. Along with milk I take in the Kashi brand that has 10 g of protein per serving..
    Anyway, anyone feel this way also?



    Milk is an excellent source of protein. I think it can be extremely beneficial when trying to bulk. I drink at least half a gallon every day (and mix it with whey protein) when in a bulking phase. BUT, if you're trying to cut, it's useful to remember to choose skim or 1% so you're not taking in as much fat. But of course, your carbs/protein/fats should still be in proportion using a lower caloric intake value.

    Having said that, I LOVE milk. Lol. For people like me who have a naturally small appetite, it's very useful when factoring in your calorie count because it doesn't make you as full as quickly as whole foods. As long as you don't go overboard, I don't see a problem with milk as a good source of protein. Even though it's slightly more expensive, it's good that you're choosing organic.

    Moo.
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    Oct 16, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
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    Aggieboy saidHey fellas i just wanted to get your thoughts on milk. I drink a lot of milk every day, but lately I have begun to think that maybe milk is hindering my goal of getting lean and ripped. Along with milk I take in the Kashi brand that has 10 g of protein per serving..
    Anyway, anyone feel this way also?



    Milk is an excellent source of protein. I think it can be extremely beneficial when trying to bulk. I drink at least half a gallon every day (and mix it with whey protein) when in a bulking phase. BUT, if you're trying to cut, it's useful to remember to choose skim or 1% so you're not taking in as much fat. But of course, your carbs/protein/fats should still be in proportion using a lower caloric intake value.

    Having said that, I LOVE milk. Lol. For people like me who have a naturally small appetite, it's very useful when factoring in your calorie count because it doesn't make you as full as quickly as whole foods. As long as you don't go overboard, I don't see a problem with milk as a good source of protein. Even though it's slightly more expensive, it's good that you're choosing organic.

    Moo.


    Milk is an excellent source of protein. I drink at least 1/2 gal of skim milk per day

    There is ZERO fat in skim milk and many grocery store brand milks these days sold in the USA is from cows not treated with rbst and hormones because customers were scared away.. CHECK THE LABELS.. Krogers milk for example doesn't come from cows treated with them.

    There's a lot of misinformation out there,, some of it from the above posters.
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    I limit my cheese and omit milk completely. I do notice more oil production on my face when I go overboard with the cheese/ice cream within a week (Cheat day!)

    It stands to reason that Milk should be weaned off by adolescence. I'm sure many will say "Drink milk" go ahead! I don't want any of it.
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    Bustamante saidI limit my cheese and omit milk completely. I do notice more oil production on my face when I go overboard with the cheese/ice cream within a week (Cheat day!)

    It stands to reason that Milk should be weaned off by adolescence. I'm sure many will say "Drink milk" go ahead! I don't want any of it.


    You'd be better omitting the cheese almost entirely and upping your intake of skim milk. Cheese is rife with fat,, it is basically fat.

    Milk consumption in the US/Canada has dropped considerably over the past 25 years and guess what, cheese consumption has increased exponentially along with the general populations waistlines.
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    Yeah you guys are scarring me now. I will finish my last gallon of milk and wean myself of it icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:33 AM GMT
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    Bustamante saidI limit my cheese and omit milk completely. I do notice more oil production on my face when I go overboard with the cheese/ice cream within a week (Cheat day!)

    It stands to reason that Milk should be weaned off by adolescence. I'm sure many will say "Drink milk" go ahead! I don't want any of it.


    You'd be better omitting the cheese almost entirely and upping your intake of skim milk. Cheese is rife with fat,, it is basically fat.

    Milk consumption in the US/Canada has dropped considerably over the past 25 years and guess what, cheese consumption has increased exponentially along with the general populations waistlines.


    Agreed but I don't sit there and eat a block at once! A block of Tillamook lasts me nearly a month.
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
    Meh, I drink about a gallon a week and eat lots of cheese and use whey. I need to gain and it's an excellent value.
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:51 AM GMT
    yourname2000-
    The big trend since the 70s has been "low fat"....and in its place, the NA diet is consuming carbs....obsene amounts of carbs that have never been ingested by any population of humans ever. That's what's making us fat.

    There are societies who live half the year on animal fat as part of their ancestrial diets....those people have been healthy until they've converted to the NA diet.[/quote]

    Carbs are the devil! I just limit my cheese because If I consume too much I get stomach issues. If you can tolerate milk and cheeses on a daily basis then go for it Aggieboy.
  • ohioguy12

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    Oct 17, 2011 12:52 AM GMT
    Milk makes it hard for me to poop
  • okologische

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    Oct 17, 2011 12:55 AM GMT
    ^ ew.
    and thanks to monsanto most of the milk you buy at the store is full of carcinogens! so i wouldnt drink i if i were you icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 17, 2011 12:59 AM GMT
    I drink ~1/2 a gallon of non-fat milk daily
    Im a thinner build but extremely lean and 29... so its not just a teenager eatin/drinkin what they want and still bein skinny shits lol

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    Oct 17, 2011 1:02 AM GMT
    Most people don't even understand fat and percentages.. they look at packaging and see "low fat" and think it's low fat.. or 2%.. certainly looks better than 3%, so it must be healthier when it it isn't really all that better. They still contain a lot of fat. Cheese is highly saturated fat, about an ounce or so of cheese = 7 oz of reg milk. But people don't eat an ounce do they, no they eat a lot more.. they're drinking less than half the milk they did 25 odd years ago and eating 3 times more cheese.

    Then add in all the sugary sodapop that replaced the milk people don't drink anymore. .. That teaspoon or so of "sugar" in a glass of milk is miniscule in comparison to the sugars packed into the quarts of pop people consume in a day now.
    So yeah.. you'd be better drinking 2 or 3 quarts of skim milk and water a day along with your cheese than drinking pop.