Gay Catholics?

  • BrownsTown

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    Oct 17, 2011 1:39 AM GMT
    Hi all ... let me start by respectfully saying that I would prefer that this not turn into an "Is there a God or not?" thread. We have plenty of those already. I have read a lot of the spirituality threads and I realize that many people on RJ do not believe in God or organized religion. I respect that.

    But here, I would like to please hear from any of you who have come out and still consider yourself Catholic. I was born and raised Catholic and I still feel ties to my church and, even more so, to the wonderful community of people in my specific parish. (We had an openly gay organist quite a few years back, and no one seemed to care one bit.)

    So: Are you openly gay within your parish? If so, how have you been treated? What was the response from your pastor, if you revealed your orientation? Do you still attend church, or have you found yourself drifting toward other, more tolerant churches? How do you deal with the church's antiquated/hurtful/etc. stance toward gays?

    I realize that a popular option for faith-filled gays (and I'm not 100% sure I am still one, but am working through that question) is to move to other demoninations. But part of me feels like I should work within my own parish to improve tolerance among people who may not know a single other person who is gay. How I wish someone would have done that many years ago when I was a kid there.

    Appreciate the thoughts in advance.

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    Oct 20, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    now that i have had some time to think about what you said, i think it is a great idea to form some sort of program to support lgbt youth in your parish. it will be difficult but at least you tried. as gay youth in the catholic church, it would have been awesome to know that there was a more positive venue to learning about being gay than the local gay bar. so kudos to you, my friend!!
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    Oct 20, 2011 9:19 AM GMT
    I was born and raised Holly Catholic. I still go to church once in a while. Maybe once or twice a month. I'm not open at church. I don't really feel the need to be. I've never experienced anything that would make me feel unwelcome.
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    Oct 20, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
    came out a few wks ago. still very active in the Church, both my campus parish and my fam parish. ik some ppl in both know i'm gay, but i haven't stood up during Mass and made a public announcement. ik of some openly gay members of my college parish, even some cpls. they r treated just like everyone else from what i can see.

    parishes, and Catholicism in general, r a microcosm of the general society. look around, u can prob find a parish where being gay is nb. those around colleges seem much more accepting of "alternative" (haha) lifestyles.

    urs in faith, AK
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    Nov 01, 2011 10:18 PM GMT
    I was raised by mostly catholic parents and grandparents... however they decided not to enforce any religion on us.. we went to church if we wanted.. and mostly went with school, as we were put in catholic school... nobody was baptised, and were allowed to choose to be baptised later... I might still get baptised though...

    I dont actually BELIEVE in anything the church teaches... but Jesus is still my idol (in theory, not in flesh) and i grew up with all the traditions... I dont think any religion is superior to any other, and I definitely dont believe they teach an absolute truth. its just culture and tradition.. I used to even think of becoming a priest or monk lol.. my fave is the Franciscan order... and I cross myself for Mary too... and saw her in my dreams... but again... I think its mostly just psychological.. but an important aspect of human life.. and therefore not something I would get rid of in my life... but its simply not about faith for me...
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    Nov 01, 2011 11:04 PM GMT
    tailgater_3 saidcame out a few wks ago. still very active in the Church, both my campus parish and my fam parish. ik some ppl in both know i'm gay, but i haven't stood up during Mass and made a public announcement. ik of some openly gay members of my college parish, even some cpls. they r treated just like everyone else from what i can see.

    parishes, and Catholicism in general, r a microcosm of the general society. look around, u can prob find a parish where being gay is nb. those around colleges seem much more accepting of "alternative" (haha) lifestyles.


    I hang with people in every religion that are perfectly fine with me being gay.... these days most everybody is pretty tolerant from what I know.. Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic.. the people that are most accepting of me have been the Muslims I know actually.... Everyone else has been just tolerant, but the Muslims were downright supportive and accepting.... strange how totally tolerant they are towards others.. even as they are quite strict for themselves
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    Nov 01, 2011 11:41 PM GMT
    Theres a lot of info online about homosexuality in Catholicism.. for ages,. the church and the monastic life has been a refuge for gays who wished to flee the expectations of a society for marriage and children... the unusually predominant gay subculture of the Roman catholic clergy is silently not talked about, but it is known.. and the official stance of the church is to tolerate homosexuality.. but not the sex... this in extension of all sins of the flesh... which the church does not allow but for having children (which gays could not do anyway)...

    I personally find these expectations a bit repressive and unrealistic.. its a nice ideal.. similar to vows of abstinence taken by eastern priests and greek philosophers and mystics the world over... but difficult to follow, as are the (official) restrictions on alcohol and gambling and overeating... also tolerated, but generally condemned lol, homosexuality is definitely present throughout the Catholic world though

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/27/the-vatican-s-gay-priests.html
  • allanon

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    Nov 13, 2011 4:01 AM GMT
    I can't say that I am openly gay in my parish. I don't feel the need to be blatant about it. I know that my pastor and community would welcome my type, though, because my pastor has created an incredibly open community who interprets sacred text and modern happenings in ways that break all barriers to love and other-oriented action. And just in case this sounds foreign to you... yes, it is a Roman Catholic Church in South Denver. I love my parish, I love the Church, even though I disagree with the majority of the dogma and canon. The Church just has so much good to offer, and her jewels of wisdom shine so much more brilliantly for me than for other religions.
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    Nov 20, 2011 7:31 AM GMT
    allanon said and her jewels of wisdom shine so much more brilliantly for me than for other religions.


    Really? This I do not have.. I'm not particular to any one religion.. I feel they all have strengths and weakness... except the practice of Shinra of course lol
  • allanon

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    Nov 21, 2011 5:12 PM GMT
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    allanon said and her jewels of wisdom shine so much more brilliantly for me than for other religions.


    Really? This I do not have.. I'm not particular to any one religion.. I feel they all have strengths and weakness... except the practice of Shinra of course lol


    I think it's only that way for me because I was born into the culture of the Catholic church. I understand the social context of the wisdom. I'm sure that if I were born into Judaism, Buddhism, etc. then I would understand the wisdom much better. But as it is, Catholicism is home for me, and I have done much religious "traveling" to understand at least the surface of other religions, but I realize that I am not disposed, nor do I have the capacity, to understand the beauty of them as well as I do mine.