Catholic Leaders seem to only care about protecting their sex abuse with children and fighting Gay Couples in love.

  • metta

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    Oct 17, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
    Catholic Leaders seem to only care about protecting their sex abuse with children and fighting Gay Couples in love.




    Bishops begin fight for marriage vote

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/131899423.html?page=1&c=y


    Bishop indicted in Catholic sex abuse scandal: It's about time
    http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2011/10/bishop_indicted_in_catholic_se.html
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    Oct 17, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    metta8 saidCatholic Leaders seem to only care about protecting their sex abuse with children and fighting Gay Couples in love.

    And making non-Catholic residents of Minnesota comply with Catholic religious teachings. Is this were really about Catholics themselves, the Church would just continue to refuse to perform Church weddings for Catholic gays & lesbians. A Minnesota civil marriage isn't recognized as a true marriage for Catholics already.

    This is an example of theocracy, where religious law is made directly into state law. Except it represents only certain religious beliefs, in a country that was founded on the principle of respecting all beliefs.
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    Ahh! Padre Manolo is up to his old antics again.

    Clergy sure can fuck up peoples' lives if they don't take their responsibilities seriously.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Education
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    Oct 17, 2011 9:30 PM GMT
    there is a definite disjunct between Church leadership and lay ppl. as noted in the article:

    "Catholics tend to be a diverse group, not a monolithic voting bloc, and many could vote against the amendment or take umbrage at the church pushing for it."

    as an American Roman Catholic, i vote my conscience. i do think the Church must provide guidance, but the days of giving us directives r long over.

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    Oct 17, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
    The hierarchy is so totally out of touch with most practicing Catholics in the western world that the Church is becoming ever more irrelevant.
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    Oct 17, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    antelope saidThe hierarchy is so totally out of touch with most practicing Catholics in the western world that the Church is becoming ever more irrelevant.


    not irrelevant. She's evolving, but as all lasting change, the change is from the grassroots level. i think the next Pope will call Vatican III, and "institutionalize" these changes.

    i do not suggest there will b cataclismic change, but there will b change that will open the doors 2 more change. the Church is old, She changes slowly, yet inexorably.
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    Oct 17, 2011 10:33 PM GMT
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    tailgater_3 said i think the next Pope will call Vatican III, and "institutionalize" these changes.

    What makes you think Pope Palpatine has any intention of dying?


    she'll die just as el Papa Gianni Paolo secondo el magnifico died. only elizabeth taylor lives forever... oh, wait, she died 2.
  • Cutlass

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    Oct 19, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
    Isn't this an example of the r.c. church meddling in politics, in which case they should lose their tax exempt status? At least there is one priest who is mentioned in the article who is in favor of human and civil rights when he stated that this measure would take away rights from a small segment of the population who aren't catholic or who have no connection to the church.
    Are there Minnesotans in this forum? What can we do to help? A spokesman for the archdiocese said several months ago that the opponents knew they were going to lose because they had tried to stop the legislature from bringing this to the vote of the public. He said they were going to marshal their forces to bring about a resounding victory for the church in maintaining traditional marriage.
    Whenever there has been a vote to allow gay marriage or prevent it, gays have lost. Nevertheless, I hate to see the arrogant r.c. church steamroll everyone and trump civil and secular law. We shouldn't give in without a fight; there must be somewhere we can contribute. The only good news I can offer is that poll after poll shows younger people are much more accepting and understanding of gay people; and when the older voters die, the younger new voters can cancel out the old ones. In my own state a poll showed that several years ago about 44 percent of the voters were in favor of gay rights, but the percentage has risen to 48 percent now. We're gaining and the numbers favor us. I can't wait.