Another suicide

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    Oct 17, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jamie-hubley-commits-suicide_n_1015646.html
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:23 PM GMT
    Tragic! That's all I got.
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    Very sad.

    Not to be insensitive, but I can't help but wonder if this media attention is starting to play a role in these kids' decision to kill themselves. These kids obviously have complicated problems. I'm sure there are multiple factors.
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    I'm sure the media attention played a small part Here's the thing, when you are being bullied day in and day out, for most victims (and teens) they live in the here and now. It's very hard to envision a future beyond the hell that one is going through at that moment or to buy in the rhetoric that "It's Gets Better". Clearly this young man was way past believing that.

    The fact of the matter is for some teens gay or str8 who are being bullied, it just does not get better for them. They see this as their only way out to stop the bleeding and pain.

    Which is tragic.
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    Oct 17, 2011 10:23 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidVery sad.

    Seems like Canada needs to pass more "anti-bullying" laws - it's working so well here in the USA.


    That isnt even helpful, sad actually. I actually thought about sending you a PM today about this issue but i'll trash it for now.


    The conversation will inevitably turn to, "What's to be done to prevent this?" and then there will be calls for "legislation and programs" to address the problem.

    Though I'm sure you wouldn't be all upset had someone posted something advocating these kinds of things as a solution.



    I believe he is referring to your assinine attitude as not being helpful SouthBeach.

    What "anti-bullying" laws are you referring to when sarcastically suggesting they are not working?
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    Oct 17, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    Ducky47 saidI'm sure the media attention played a small part Here's the thing, when you are being bullied day in and day out, for most victims (and teens) they live in the here and now. It's very hard to envision a future beyond the hell that one is going through at that moment or to buy in the rhetoric that "It's Gets Better". Clearly this young man was way past believing that.

    The fact of the matter is for some teens gay or str8 who are being bullied, it just does not get better for them. They see this as their only way out to stop the bleeding and pain.

    Which is tragic.


    They have done studies on this. They find that when teen suicide is made common knowledge by the media, it tells other kids who are thinking of it that it is ok to do. Sort of like "well sally sue killed herself so its ok if I do too." Its much bigger than a small part of it, they should really stop talking about it on the news.

    I mean yes there are other factors, but they find that the rate increases as the media talks about it, not decreases.
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    Oct 18, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
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    Ducky47 saidI'm sure the media attention played a small part Here's the thing, when you are being bullied day in and day out, for most victims (and teens) they live in the here and now. It's very hard to envision a future beyond the hell that one is going through at that moment or to buy in the rhetoric that "It's Gets Better". Clearly this young man was way past believing that.

    The fact of the matter is for some teens gay or str8 who are being bullied, it just does not get better for them. They see this as their only way out to stop the bleeding and pain.

    Which is tragic.


    They have done studies on this. They find that when teen suicide is made common knowledge by the media, it tells other kids who are thinking of it that it is ok to do. Sort of like "well sally sue killed herself so its ok if I do too." Its much bigger than a small part of it, they should really stop talking about it on the news.

    I mean yes there are other factors, but they find that the rate increases as the media talks about it, not decreases.


    That was part of the point I was trying to make above. I also think that these kids want the type of attention that those who have already killed themselves get. They are ignored or bullied their whole lives. After they kill themselves, they are almost made into heroes. It can't be good.