Bullied Gay Ottawa Teen Jamie Hubley Commits Suicide

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    Oct 17, 2011 8:07 PM GMT
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    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/10/hubley.html

    Heartbreaking.
  • kuroshiro

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    Oct 17, 2011 8:37 PM GMT
    That is truly unfortunate. As one person noted in the comments, how many deaths WILL it take before we as a society wake up and realize what is becoming of our society?
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    Oct 17, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jamie-hubley-commits-suicide_n_1015646.html?ir=Parents

    "From the outside, he looked like the happiest kid. He was always smiling and giving everybody hugs in the halls"

    Sometimes I find it really hard to believe that no one saw through the smiles and saw that this kid was miserable inside, but then I realize that I did it for years myself..

    RIP
  • Vaughn

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    Oct 17, 2011 9:39 PM GMT
    kuroshiro saidThat is truly unfortunate. As one person noted in the comments, how many deaths WILL it take before we as a society wake up and realize what is becoming of our society?


    We used to castrate gay people. FYI


    Not that it's an excuse to allow bullying and ex gays... I'm just glad we don't allow or force those things now. I hope in 10 years gay people will be merged with society.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Oct 18, 2011 1:16 AM GMT
    Where were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.
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    Oct 18, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    when i was 16 I attempted suicide. after 6 months with a psychologist I trusted him enough to say I think I might be gay." He responded"oh, you;re not gay."

    Oh. OK.


    When i told my family I felt I had a problem - that I was suffering some form of manic depression - I was told "you're not manic."

    Check.


    The mania was confirmed years later, by then renamed "bipolar disorder" and easily controlled by medication - the same one that I now rely on to control a propensity for seizures from the stroke


    Often times a family just does not want to hear the message, even when it is explicit.
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    Oct 18, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    Parents are not always the answer. Sometimes it is the parents who are making the "child" feel ashamed of who and what they are. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 18, 2011 1:38 AM GMT
    Guess Canada isn't immune to this type of stuff either. That really sucks. How many suicides has it been this year over bullying? Way too much in my opinion. This is sad and very unfortunate.
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    Oct 18, 2011 1:42 AM GMT
    RIP young man.

    May you be in a better place and rest easy.
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    Oct 18, 2011 1:42 AM GMT
    malefeet said
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    Parents are not always the answer. Sometimes it is the parents who are making the "child" feel ashamed of who and what they are. icon_wink.gif


    His parents were right there: http://www.towleroad.com/2011/10/hubleystatement.html

    They are not therapists.

    Mental illness and depression cannot be helped by thinking positively, willpower oor even by someone loving you more, regardless of what a washed up Hollywood actor and the deadscu-fi writer he worships says.

    The brain and the mind are parts of the body and require medical attention if they are broke.



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    Oct 18, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    This breaks my heart, reading his last blog post.
  • matt13226

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    Oct 18, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidThis breaks my heart, reading his last blog post.


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    Oct 18, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    BAMF said
    malefeet said
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    Parents are not always the answer. Sometimes it is the parents who are making the "child" feel ashamed of who and what they are. icon_wink.gif


    His parents were right there: http://www.towleroad.com/2011/10/hubleystatement.html

    They are not therapists.

    Mental illness and depression cannot be helped by thinking positively, willpower oor even by someone loving you more, regardless of what a washed up Hollywood actor and the deadscu-fi writer he worships says.

    The brain and the mind are parts of the body and require medical attention if they are broke.


    While I understand that the parents were there in this case...in many other cases they are not....or they add to the problem. icon_neutral.gif
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    Oct 18, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    *gasp* NOT IN CANADA?!?!?!!


    as if canada is not full of the same exact human beings that inhabit the rest of the earth ....in particular north america. .

    canada isn't immune to anything. not even by arctic cold fronts!

  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 18, 2011 2:31 AM GMT
    I think society should stop using the term "bullying" (which has a childish/playful connotation) and call it what it is: harassment, assault, and emotional abuse. I think language is powerful and the "bullying" term diminishes the seriousness of the problem.
    Also, in every discussion I've ever heard about proposed anti-bullying legislation, right-wing bigots have rushed to oppose it and defend bullying as "free speech," which is yet another reason I hope they all go f*ck themselves.
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    Oct 18, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
    JakeGHK saidIn Canada?


    Impossible. Hate and bullying and greed and toothaches and stubbing your toe and prostate cancer and crabs and bribery and crime and evil and paper cuts don't happen in Canada.

    Lies, all lies.
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    Oct 18, 2011 2:33 AM GMT
    Guy101 saidGuess Canada isn't immune to this type of stuff either. That really sucks. How many suicides has it been this year over bullying? Way too much in my opinion. This is sad and very unfortunate.
    just one is too much!!!! i was bullied, beat up spit on constantly taunted in school....
    this has too stop!!! how many lives will it take???
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    Guy101 saidGuess Canada isn't immune to this type of stuff either. That really sucks. How many suicides has it been this year over bullying? Way too much in my opinion. This is sad and very unfortunate.


    Statistically, no more than usual. The media attention has made it seem like some kind of epidemic, which it is not.

    It's a repeat of the anorexia bullshit of a few years ago.

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    Oct 18, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
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    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    when i was 16 I attempted suicide. after 6 months with a psychologist I trusted him enough to say I think I might be gay." He responded"oh, you;re not gay."

    Oh. OK.


    When i told my family I felt I had a problem - that I was suffering some form of manic depression - I was told "you're not manic."

    Check.



    Often times a family just does not want to hear the message, even when it is explicit.


    Same with me, confessing to my parents that I wasn't happy and then that I felt depressed. They also talked enough for me to figure out how negatively my sexual orientation would be received so I never did that. But the biggest thing for me, was something my mom told me, finally frustrated at my perpetual frown.

    Her - "Why are you frowning?!"

    Me - "Because I'm not happy."

    Her - "Then smile anyway."

    After that, I plastered a fake smile on my face and resolved myself to milk them for all they're worth financially and then sever ties with them forever. icon_neutral.gif

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    Oct 18, 2011 2:43 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    Really? Billions?
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    Oct 18, 2011 2:48 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    I doubt any of our parents were there for us in the way we really needed them as teenagers. My mom reacted selfishly and bullheaded when I came out to her and we didn't speak for 3 months. Things improved after that and were fine in time, but there were some bad moments until they got to that point. We have to be there for our younger brothers and sisters, as much as we can be, because few parents are. Support your local lgbt youth groups and community centers.
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    Oct 18, 2011 2:48 AM GMT
    Very sad indeed....
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
    Animus said
    Upper_Cdn said
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    when i was 16 I attempted suicide. after 6 months with a psychologist I trusted him enough to say I think I might be gay." He responded"oh, you;re not gay."

    Oh. OK.


    When i told my family I felt I had a problem - that I was suffering some form of manic depression - I was told "you're not manic."

    Check.



    Often times a family just does not want to hear the message, even when it is explicit.


    Same with me, confessing to my parents that I wasn't happy and then that I felt depressed. They also talked enough for me to figure out how negatively my sexual orientation would be received so I never did that. But the biggest thing for me, was something my mom told me, finally frustrated at my perpetual frown.

    Her - "Why are you frowning?!"

    Me - "Because I'm not happy."

    Her - "Then smile anyway."

    After that, I plastered a fake smile on my face and resolved myself to milk them for all they're worth financially and then sever ties with them forever. icon_neutral.gif



    And then you committed suicide?
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ said
    Animus said
    Upper_Cdn said
    barriehomeboy saidWhere were his parents? Where were all of our parents? Oblivious. If we are silent, they are deaf. If's time for the billions of us to stand up and come out.


    when i was 16 I attempted suicide. after 6 months with a psychologist I trusted him enough to say I think I might be gay." He responded"oh, you;re not gay."

    Oh. OK.


    When i told my family I felt I had a problem - that I was suffering some form of manic depression - I was told "you're not manic."

    Check.



    Often times a family just does not want to hear the message, even when it is explicit.


    Same with me, confessing to my parents that I wasn't happy and then that I felt depressed. They also talked enough for me to figure out how negatively my sexual orientation would be received so I never did that. But the biggest thing for me, was something my mom told me, finally frustrated at my perpetual frown.

    Her - "Why are you frowning?!"

    Me - "Because I'm not happy."

    Her - "Then smile anyway."

    After that, I plastered a fake smile on my face and resolved myself to milk them for all they're worth financially and then sever ties with them forever. icon_neutral.gif



    And then you committed suicide?


    The sarcasm is strong with this one. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Besides that I'm posting this, I never saw the point in suicide. It's the same thing as giving up and letting "them" win to me. I'd rather live to exact a revenge that I deem fit.
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:18 AM GMT
    I'm filled with all sorts of emotions. Very sad that I couldn't do anything to help him...icon_cry.gif

    But I'm also super pissed off at people! The people who tormented him!!! They must be held legally accountable for his death, and locked away for a long time. I only hope karma will see to it that they get what they deserve for their cruelty. icon_evil.gif