Anti-Bullying Measures and Teachers

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    Oct 17, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
    Virginia is requiring all school systems devise and implement anti-bullying policy in all schools. I'd like to hear from guys who were bullied in elementary school and, specifically, what you feel teachers could have done to prevent this in your particular case.
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:29 PM GMT
    There needs to be a balance between reprimanding the wrong actions, and compassion to make sure there is no increase in hate.

    I don't think I can make any actual suggestions with regards to that, but both are important. They need to know that there are consequences for their actions, but they shouldn't feel looked down on either.

    Educating others about things like gender differences, sexual orientations, racial differences, learning difficulties, and differences in interest (jock, geek, designer, etc), and so on.

    There are many reasons behind bullying, and one of them is ignorance. It's dire that bullies know their behaviour is wrong, but they should also be educated to know why.

    I was picked on a lot in school, and if there was a teacher around who was ready to stand up for me, the bullies often felt marginalised and that teachers favoured me (they kind of did, because I actually did my homework and paid attention in class). As a result, the bullies liked me even less, and the bullying increased.

    Fortunately it wasn't violent, but words hurt even more, and leave a lot less evidence.

    All I can suggest is to suspend the bullies, and during that time, have them come in for counseling sessions both without (initially) and with the victim (later).
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    cattle prod to the testes in front of the whole student population ?

    Just a thought.


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    Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    Here's a good article on it from the Faculty of Education at my university. I just had to read this for my "Critical Issues in Education" class; we're talking about bullying this week. I apologise if it's a bit long.

    educ.queensu.ca/alumni/letter/issues/QueensEducationLetterFallWinter07.pdf

    It's by a prof in the Psychology department and bullying is her field of study.

    The article outlines causes and solutions...

    Dunno how it'll help in developing a policy per se, but it's a start.
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM GMT
    Coach_Mike saidVirginia is requiring all school systems devise and implement anti-bullying policy in all schools. I'd like to hear from guys who were bullied in elementary school and, specifically, what you feel teachers could have done to prevent this in your particular case.


    Nothing. Teachers will only care right up to the border of their legal liability to care. And even if they care more than that, an actual bully knows how to not be caught.

    Teach your children to beat up the bullies. Peace belongs to the strong.
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM GMT
    There is a part of me that really wants it to be a vigil anti response. Does that solve the out lying problem. I think there needs to be someone on staff that is very well educated in LGTB culture. (that isn't the best way to put it)

    I think every incident needs to be documented on paper and the complainant sign and get a copy signed by whom you reported the incident to. The bullying isn't being documented well enough to find trends and hold the offenders responsible for it.
    They would rather say boys will be boys... until someone brings a weapon to school for defense or goes home and commits suicide because they aren't being heard.
    I need to ask my mother, who taught for 30+ years what she was told by her uppers about bullying and stuff.
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    Oct 18, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    I did my post-grad thesis on bullying and did quite a bit of research, surveys and all that jazz. If I had to give one piece of advice, teachers need to stay in the classroom - no trips to the photocopier mid-class, no rocking up five minutes late. I found that out of the entire school day (from leaving the home to arriving back the same day) students consider a classroom with the teacher the safest place to be, while a classroom without a teacher is when bullies strike (full audience, centre of attention etc). Sounds obvious, but if you need any more info you can hit me up.
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    Oct 18, 2011 4:25 PM GMT
    The best thing a teacher can do is to be aware of a bully. From there they can figure out how to approach and fix and the problem. Teachers are not the total solution to the problem and shouldn't be thought of as a the "all-answer" to this problem. They can only do so much. They are, however, a portion and a valued piece. They need to be more approachable and available to students who are having a problem with other students. When it becomes apparent that bullying has shown it's ugly head in the classroom/school/some random place that when teachers need to involve the parents.

    Larkin_PLRTeach your children to beat up the bullies. Peace belongs to the strong


    I wouldn't teach children to beat up bullies because that could escalate in the bullied becoming a bully. I'd teach kids to defend and stand up for themselves when confronted by one and teach them that they have venues for dealing with this like informing a someone they trust...i.e a teacher, parent, counselor, an adult figure, etc... When you bully a bully you're pretty much no different then they are. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way but it sounds/appears that way with your comment. LOL.
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    Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
    The reason why bullying is such an issue is because people keep on looking past the root of the problem and it's not just all on the bullies either. We have to look at what's going on in the bully's home and what happens when they're in school or where ever. You can scould a bully over and over again but if that bully goes home and gets abused, the problem isn't done. Start fining parents for every time their child gets caught bullying and the bad parents might think twice before neglecting their kids.
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    Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    I was a small and pretty young looking kid for my age. I got bullied to an extent.. not as much as some, but enough to know what it feels like and certainly have seen worse.

    Maybe this sounds pretty elementary, but I think part of it is getting all teachers to view it seriously and as an elevated issue. I'm not confident that most see it that way. Maybe the information is finally getting out there, but I have the feeling in many rural school districts, the philosophy of, "kids will be kids" still holds.
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    Oct 18, 2011 4:39 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI was a small and pretty young looking kid for my age. I got bullied to an extent.. not as much as some, but enough to know what it feels like and certainly have seen worse.

    Maybe this sounds pretty elementary, but I think part of it is getting all teachers to view it seriously and as an elevated issue. I'm not confident that most see it that way. Maybe the information is finally getting out there, but I have the feeling in many rural school districts, the philosophy of, "kids will be kids" still holds.


    As far as teachers go, there's only so much they can do to deal with bullying or else they could get into serious trouble. Bullying is often the sign of something bigger going on behind the scenes, which is why teachers have to be careful. You are right though, teachers need to take care of bullying when it's less of a problem before it grows into something bigger and potentially dangerous.
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    Oct 18, 2011 5:27 PM GMT
    I dont think teachers can prevent this problem, though they may certainly intervene temporarily on a case by case basis.

    I think the ultimate solution is teaching kids to defend themselves and somehow stand up to bullies.
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    Oct 18, 2011 5:31 PM GMT
    grovetown1 saidI dont think teachers can prevent this problem, though they may certainly intervene temporarily on a case by case basis.

    I think the ultimate solution is teaching kids to defend themselves and somehow stand up to bullies.


    From what I know about the laws, if a child defends himself against a bully, the victim and the bully both get suspended or exspelled from their school. This is a major problem. Seriously, what are they supposed to do? If a kid gets punched in the face, he's supposed to just run and tell someone that he just got hit. So basically, the laws are making children less independent.
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    Oct 18, 2011 10:56 PM GMT
    You're right, Steel1, in that most school systems have a no tolerance policy when it comes to fighting. I'm not sure sanctioning physical confrontations as a solution is right, particularly considering that a lot of these children come from a culture where fists aren't the last option for retribution.
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    Oct 18, 2011 11:03 PM GMT
    thomeiza saidI did my post-grad thesis on bullying and did quite a bit of research, surveys and all that jazz. If I had to give one piece of advice, teachers need to stay in the classroom - no trips to the photocopier mid-class, no rocking up five minutes late. I found that out of the entire school day (from leaving the home to arriving back the same day) students consider a classroom with the teacher the safest place to be, while a classroom without a teacher is when bullies strike (full audience, centre of attention etc). Sounds obvious, but if you need any more info you can hit me up.


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