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Well the heading just about sums it up. I'm not making any progress in size or strenth.
I switch up my work outs.
I take in a lot of calories, and hell all I got to show for that is a biger belly.

I'm geting really discouraged and I got no cule what to do anymore. So any advice/ words of wisdom would be a real help.

Call yourself fierce and be done with it.

Might work for you but thats a little too lazy assed for me. thanks thought

i sympathize- i take the multivitamins, amino acids, eat my weight in protein lol, i make sure to eat the right things within a half hour after workouts; i work out every day, switching up my exercises; i get enough sleep- i'm doing everything right by the book but despite this, i'm really not noticing any real changes. its been months since i picked my regimen back up and dusted it off from the winter, and while i know i HAVE made progress, its just not good enough and i'm getting discouraged enough to be skipping workouts lately.

Rash and Czar: You both look flawless.

Thinness is wasted on the young.

obscenewish saidRash and Czar: You both look flawless.

Thinness is wasted on the young.

LOL, thanks obscenewish, and yeah I probly shouldnt complain, not like I'm in bad shape or nouthing, just gotta keep at it and see

We are the last ones to see gains. You see yourself everyday....your not going notice small changes. Others do, and yes you guys look amazing. Keep lifting, change things up! Try a 12 week program. Hit your muscles differently. Start a sport or different way of working out. Swimming is a great total body workout....geez there is just so many things you can do other than throwing weights around!

Good Luck guys.

you can also try taking a week off every once in awhile, do the same routines but in half the time, or do some plyometrics stuff as well. Changing things up doesn't just mean switching exercises.

You could also see a trainer, even for one or two sessions.

Oh, and like everyone else has already said, you look great now.

obscenewish saidRash and Czar: You both look flawless. Thinness is wasted on the young.

Thank you Obscene! They just don't know what discouraged is at that age! LOL I understand what they are saying though, I feel the same way but I DO have a belly and seem to be stuck. Mine is some of the environment I'm in right now too I think, not a lot of flexibility to just change everything I'm doing but damn, how much more cardio can I do each day .

Have you guys been training constantly? Maybe you should take a break to rest and recoup. You may not think you need it, but you may. Taking some time off will allow your body to recover fully.

yeah, use to do that take week or so off thing but just seemed to make me lazy. but it cant hurt to take a little brake I guess.

You can take a working break. Instead of your regular workout, either strength or cardio, do some physical activity for the sheer fun of it. Essentially, just go outside and play. Toss the frisbee around, go bowling, take a long walk downtown/by the river/by the lake, take a bike tour. The idea is to be active, not to train.

Yeah, it's gonna be hard at first, but you need to give your body time to rest and recoup before you start training again.

ChicGymGeek saidYou can take a working break. Instead of your regular workout, either strength or cardio, do some physical activity for the sheer fun of it. Essentially, just go outside and play. Toss the frisbee around, go bowling, take a long walk downtown/by the river/by the lake, take a bike tour. The idea is to be active, not to train.

Yeah, it's gonna be hard at first, but you need to give your body time to rest and recoup before you start training again.

Never really thought about that, sounds like it would be worth doing so I'll give it a try. ;)