Cain's funny "logic" on abortion

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    Oct 18, 2011 7:36 PM GMT


    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/18/346530/after-confusing-himself-cain-decides-that-rape-victims-should-be-forced-to-carry-pregnancies-to-term/At first, Cain offered a simple answer: “I’m pro-life from conception, yes.” But when host Stossel asked whether there are any cases in which abortion should be legal (such as rape or incest), Cain then declared, “I don’t think government should make that decision.” Recognizing the conflict, Stossel endeavored to clear up exactly where Cain stood on abortion — an attempt that led Cain to completely contradict himself by offering three different positions. He began with his anti-choice stance:

    CAIN: I support life from conception. No people shouldn’t be free to abort because if we don’t protect the sanctity of life from conception, we will also start to play God relative to life at the end of life.

    An understandably “confused” Stossel then asks Cain whether a rape victim should have the right to get an abortion. Cain then offers position 2:

    CAIN: That’s her choice. That’s not government choice. I support life from conception.

    STOSSEL: So abortion should be legal.

    CAIN: No abortion should not be legal.

    A now thoroughly perplexed Stossel asserts, “I’m not getting it, I’m not understanding it” and helps Cain understand the obvious flaw: “If it’s her choice, then that means it’s legal.” Cain replies with position 3:

    CAIN: No! I don’t believe a woman should have an abortion. Does that help to clear it up?

    STOSSEL: Even if she is raped.

    CAIN: Even if she is raped or she is the victim of incest because there are other options. We must protect the sanctity of life and I have always believed that. Real clear.


    I believe people who cannot reconcile their thoughts with simple logic should not be presidents.
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    Oct 18, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
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    Oct 18, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    Agreed.
    It sounds as if it`s the first time he`s had to think about such possibilities and he`s making it up as he goes along!
    Not a good point for a potential president!
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    Oct 18, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHe isn't saying it should be illegal.

    Anyway, he would be a far better President than the current occupant of the White House.
    It's either "legal" or its not. "illegal" means NOT legal!

    Gawd, you're just as dumb as Cain is! I wonder if that's a republican thing or a Uber-conservative thing or you just being stupid?
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    Oct 19, 2011 5:05 AM GMT
    So, to give some semblance of logical consistency to his thoughts above, according to Cain, the "choice" available to raped women seems to be the choice of breaking the law to abort the fetus. Some choice there.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 3:29 PM GMT
    I heard/watched this segment live and it was painful. Cain needs to get this stuff sorted out before he opens his mouth. It’s bad enough being accused of being a flip flopper, but within the same minute is a problem. This is not the first time either.
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    Oct 19, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    But is this any different than any republicans view?

    either you are against abortion in any form .... Which means that for rape .... Or incest
    Or for the health or safety of the mother....

    When you split hairs..... Which is what Cain and most other republicans do day in and day out is where they into trouble
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    Oct 22, 2011 11:48 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidSo, to give some semblance of logical consistency to his thoughts above, according to Cain, the "choice" available to raped women seems to be the choice of breaking the law to abort the fetus. Some choice there.icon_rolleyes.gif


    And the man himself admits it. Your "choice" is to break the law.
    And yes, if abortion were made illegal, a lot of families would be in the position and they ARE going to be thinking what the law/government says!
    And as if the majority of the time the decision is made lightly, "in the heat of the moment."icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/189141-cain-abortion-should-be-illegal-but-families-may-decide-to-break-law-in-heat-of-the-moment
    Herman Cain attempted to further clarify his stance on abortion Friday during an interview on Fox News, saying both that he does "not believe abortion should be legal in this country" but that "you don't know what [a typical family] might do in the heat of the moment."
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    He was pressed on this point Friday by Martha MacCallum on Fox, at which point he said that abortion should be illegal, and that a woman impregnated during rape would be breaking the law if she sought an abortion under his ideal set of laws.

    "It would be an illegal abortion. Look, abortion should not be legal — that is clear — but if that family made a decision to break the law, that's their decision," Cain said.
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    "The only point I was trying to make: a lot of families would be in that position, and they're not going to be thinking 'Well, what does the government want me to do?' " Cain said. "My position is no abortion, but all I was trying to point out was: take the typical family in this country, and you don't know what they might do in the heat of the moment."
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    Oct 23, 2011 12:02 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHe isn't saying it should be illegal.


    It's been a few days, and Cain has corrected and re-corrected and re-re-clarified his remarks. You know now, I assume that, Cain has stated that he does want abortion to be illegal, including in cases of rape and incest.
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    Oct 23, 2011 12:57 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidHe isn't saying it should be illegal.


    It's been a few days, and Cain has corrected and re-corrected and re-re-clarified his remarks. You know now, I assume that, Cain has stated that he does want abortion to be illegal, including in cases of rape and incest.


    Yes, and I just quoted him, on Fox News:

    aboveHe was pressed on this point Friday by Martha MacCallum on Fox, at which point he said that abortion should be illegal, and that a woman impregnated during rape would be breaking the law if she sought an abortion under his ideal set of laws.

    "It would be an illegal abortion. Look, abortion should not be legal — that is clear — but if that family made a decision to break the law, that's their decision," Cain said.


    Specifically, scroll to 2:30 in the Hill link.
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:52 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHe isn't saying it should be illegal.

    Anyway, he would be a far better President than the current occupant of the White House.


    DELICIOUS ! But if you want to see a world class version of this sort of this

    Magical----Cover-up-The-Truth......sort of thinking, you should read Leon Wolf over on RedState.com .

    Wolf explains to his readers that WHAT THEY HEARD............was not really what they heard Cain say.

    Southbeach1500 is a poor man's version of Leon Wolf-----------so for that alone, you might enjoy the reading.