Eating clean?

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    Oct 19, 2011 4:27 AM GMT
    The phrase "eat clean" gets thrown around a lot in the fitness community. We advise newbies, athletes, and seasoned fitness enthusiasts alike to "eat clean", but what's interesting is that no two people can agree on what exactly "eating clean" means. What do you mean when you tell someone to "eat clean"?

    For me, "eating clean" means (to parrot the guys at my old crossfit box): fatty meat, veggies, nuts, some fruit, little starch, no sugar
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:12 AM GMT
    I'd have to agree with you also.
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:11 PM GMT

    I'd say eating clean means staying away from junk... sounds simple, but it's more than just not eating that bag of Cheese Doddles while watching TV.

    It's avoiding refined sugar, keeping sodium levels as low as you can, eating the right amount of healthy fats, frequent small meals, cooking most meals yourself to control what goes in it (including packing lunches), drinking lots of water (and only water), lots of fruit, veggies, nuts, complex carbs. There's more to it, obviously, but that's the broad idea.

    BTW, to the OP: What do you mean by "eating fatty meat?" Lean proteins are a better choice... but maybe you meant something different?

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    Oct 19, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    My definition is similar to yours but a little bit different. Eating clean means:

    Eating: lean proteins like fish, chicken and lean beef, fibrous veggies for carbs like kale, broccoli and asparagus, healthy fats like avocado and certain oils, and then some fruit and nuts in moderation.

    Not eating: gluten, food with added sugars of any kind, dairy or alcohol.
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    DJBoston said

    BTW, to the OP: What do you mean by "eating fatty meat?" Lean proteins are a better choice... but maybe you meant something different?



    No, I meant what I typed: meat with plenty of fat marbled into it. I would explain more, but I'd get carried away and end up on a soapbox. If you're curious however, see...

    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/291/5513/2536.full

    And for something (extremely) more in-depth, check out the book Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
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    DJBoston said

    BTW, to the OP: What do you mean by "eating fatty meat?" Lean proteins are a better choice... but maybe you meant something different?



    No, I meant what I typed: meat with plenty of fat marbled into it. I would explain more, but I'd get carried away and end up on a soapbox. If you're curious however, see...

    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/291/5513/2536.full

    And for something (extremely) more in-depth, check out the book Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes


    Good luck with that.

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    Oct 19, 2011 9:57 PM GMT
    imasrxd saidMy definition is similar to yours but a little bit different. Eating clean means:

    Eating: lean proteins like fish, chicken and lean beef, fibrous veggies for carbs like kale, broccoli and asparagus, healthy fats like avocado and certain oils, and then some fruit and nuts in moderation.

    Not eating: gluten, food with added sugars of any kind, dairy or alcohol.
    +1.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    Assuming that one is not gluten intolerant, why avoid gluten?
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    Nothing that comes in a cardboard box, a wrapper or a package. Very few things with a Nutritional Info label, and if they do, nothing with more than 3 or 4 total ingredients.
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidNothing that comes in a carboard box, a wrapper or a package. Very few things with a Nutritional Info label, and if they do, nothing with more than 3 or 4 total ingredients.


    Guess that leave me out..LOL
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidNothing that comes in a carboard box, a wrapper or a package. Very few things with a Nutritional Info label, and if they do, nothing with more than 3 or 4 total ingredients.


    No pasta?

    No thank you icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidNothing that comes in a carboard box, a wrapper or a package. Very few things with a Nutritional Info label, and if they do, nothing with more than 3 or 4 total ingredients.


    This is probably the truest definition of 'clean' hard to live by but the results cannot be contested. As opposed to the sugary, preservative-containing counterparts of processed foods.
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:33 PM GMT
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    Ariodante saidNothing that comes in a carboard box, a wrapper or a package. Very few things with a Nutritional Info label, and if they do, nothing with more than 3 or 4 total ingredients.


    Guess that leave me out..LOL


    No one can really follow it 100%, and you're not really supposed to (well you kinda are but unless you're like a hermit in the mountains or jungle you can't adhere to that 100% and keep your sanity in the real world). It's meant to influence your daily choices to strive for the healthier option in as many instances as possible. God I totally misspelled cardboard.
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:59 PM GMT
    DJBoston said

    Good luck with that.



    Thanks. It's worked for me so far, and my doctor agrees. Well, he agrees with my improved HDL/LDL ratios and improved blood pressure in the past year. He also agrees with me losing the ten pounds of "stress fat" I had gained in my first year of grad school as well. He just doesn't know that I've been eating bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease for breakfast for the past year as well, but I'll keep that as my dirty little secret. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:59 PM GMT
    Michael phelps eats 12,000 calories a day, made up of spagehtti, energy drinks, so on and so on... He doesn't worry about the health... Only the calories.
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    Oct 19, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    No man made " Food". Your body cannot not handle food chemistry that it did not evolve with.
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    Oct 19, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    Ariodante said
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    Ariodante saidNothing that comes in a carboard box, a wrapper or a package. Very few things with a Nutritional Info label, and if they do, nothing with more than 3 or 4 total ingredients.


    Guess that leave me out..LOL


    No one can really follow it 100%, and you're not really supposed to (well you kinda are but unless you're like a hermit in the mountains or jungle you can't adhere to that 100% and keep your sanity in the real world). It's meant to influence your daily choices to strive for the healthier option in as many instances as possible. God I totally misspelled cardboard.






    Humans are extremely flexible and adaptive animals. You don't have to be strict about it. But there is a cut off point were the crap will alter your metabolism and that's when things start going wrong. 80% natural
    Diet is what some Paleo diet researchers suggest.
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:12 AM GMT
    Yep, this actually causes me a little stress sometimes.

    Blueberries and strawberries are among the few sweet foods I allow myself on a regular basis, and as they are going out of season in the Northern Hemisphere, the price per pack of about 450g (1lb) is skyrocketing. $6.89 USD for the organic brand I like, $4.99 for the mutant Monsanto clones for strawberries.

    Local varieties (peak season: Late May thru early July) ran about $2.75 for a 450g carton this summer.

    Blueberries are averaging about $5 USD up about $1.50 from their peak season locally (mid July in NY State) for a pack of around 170g (6oz).

    Or a 450g (1lb) box could have been had for about $4.50-5.00 USD. There are no pound boxes on the shelves at all, they'd be unreasonably expensive.

    I'll have to switch back to prunes over the winter which help meet my catechin and antioxidant needs, but are a tad sweeter than fresh plums.

    And pasta just makes me fuckin cringe these days, though I gots to have my rice every now and then.

    Marbled meat is better than meat with isolated large chunks of fat, and lean meat is better than chunky fat meat.

    The marbled meat tastes better overall (if you've ever had Kōbe Beef or Wagyū Beef, you will know exactly what I am on about).

    And all things considered, animal fat is probably (in moderation) is probably better than corn oil.
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:14 AM GMT
    I try to keep it relatively simple. . .I try to stick to lean meats, fibrous green vegetables, complex carbs, and the good fat sources. . .avoiding processed food and junk food.
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:17 AM GMT
    Don't eat off the floor?
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:26 AM GMT
    jpBITCHva saidI wash everything before I eat it. Like, duh.
    You beat me to it! But I still use the two second rule!
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:26 AM GMT
    5 second rule
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    Oct 21, 2011 1:50 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidNo man made " Food". Your body cannot not handle food chemistry that it did not evolve with.


    I'm glad for your addendum post. I was just about to point out that, actually, the body can handle quite a lot. Some of the stuff that's in "food" just straight up can't be digested, so the body gets rid of it, or is toxic/useless when it gets in the blood stream, so is filtered out through organs. But of course, you're quite right in your addendum that the body is, in fact, flexible given that you're not throwing so much abuse at it that it just can't handle it.
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    Oct 21, 2011 1:58 AM GMT
    Also, one slight, I don't know, let's say gripe. A lot of folks in the fitness community do, as a matter of fact, advise folks to eat clean, and then talk about things like eating lots of unprocessed foods. Some of those same folks then sometimes turn around and tell you to drink protein shakes or other supplements to help build muscle. Talk about processed food!

    But generally, I'm on board with the idea that eating clean means trying, as much as possible even though you won't hit 100%, to eat foods that are as close to their basic state as possible. Eating a banana instead of a banana flavored piece of candy; eating pasta that is whole grain instead of made from "enriched" white flour; etc.
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    Oct 21, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
    nothing wrong with starch. Sweet and red potatoes are great for you