Can anyone explain

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    May 24, 2008 10:10 AM GMT
    If you are burning say 800 calories a day. And eating say 2000-2200 calories per day.... and you are 35, 196m (6ft 4in), 95kgs (180lbs), 20% body fat... your body should change right?

    Weight should drop right?

    Ok Lets say your weight is not dropping? Surely your muscles should grow, so that your body fat percentage should come down?

    Assume that 800 calories you are buring are one day cardio and weight training , say 5 times a week.

    Assume that the weight training just does not seem to be improving... ie you are only able to bench 130lbs and it is not going up and dont even think about such exciting things like chin ups... sine 3 or 4 is all you churn out after 3 months...

    any thoughts and advice.... yes I am writing about me.
  • UncleverName

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    May 24, 2008 3:35 PM GMT
    I'm not clever enough to take a look at everything that you've pointed out and tell you exactly what's wrong. But I can point out some things to think about, and places to look for more info.

    Posting this at the forums at would probably give you more of a hit. There are also more articles there, and more forum posts on topics like this.
    Also, there is a somewhat similar thread here: with good advice that probably applies to you as well.

    What could be happening is that you're not eating enough, causing your body to assume that you are trying to starve it, and it's clinging to all of your body fat for dear life. There are ways around that, but you need to know what your daily caloric needs are before you can guess that. Do a search for basal metabolic rate in google (I think). Again, searching through for caloric intake or caloric needs or calculating caloric requirements, and you should be able to find out how to calculate this.

    You could also not be getting enough water. Water and fluid are vitally important to your body.

    The same is true of protein. Are you eating protein (like whey) immediately following your workout?

    You could also not be getting enough sleep. How much sleep are you getting? Is it at least 8 hours a night, uninterrupted?

    You might need to try to get your metabolism up. One of the possible ways to do this is to have 6 meals a day instead of 3. You could also try only having carbs in the morning, and post workout, and sticking to protein and fat meals for the rest of the day, plus tons of vegetables.

    You could be working out too much!

    So at the end of the day, I'd say that you didn't actually post enough info for me (or anyone else) to give you some advice tailored to you. What I hope is that I've given you some food for thought and another forum to try if need be ( The other big thing I would suggest is to research how nutrition and exercise work, and what your body does and needs. Read as much stuff as you can.

    Hope that helps.
  • UncleverName

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    May 24, 2008 3:41 PM GMT
    Actually, I just thought of something else that might be relevant.

    My partner is about 6ft 1in and he's around the same body fat % as you. He didn't start seeing changes in his weight (both muscle mass and fat) until he started doing 2 really intense weight training sessions a week with a trainer, 3 - 4 times doing 1 hour cardio sessions a week, and reduced his calorie intake to 1500 calories a day.

    If you just want to play around with what you're doing now, try reducing your calories by 250 for a week. If that gives you results, try that for awhile. If it doesn't, you can try reducing it again, by 250. If that still doesn't work, then maybe try going the other way and increasing by 250. My partner cut out practically all carbs for 4 months, but now, if he does, he can't work out properly, so he eats carbs in the morning now. That gives him the energy he needs to actually do a work out now.
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    May 24, 2008 3:44 PM GMT
    I can explain. It's because you're gay. When one is gay, the laws of physics are suspended.
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    May 24, 2008 7:25 PM GMT
    McGay saidI can explain. It's because you're gay. When one is gay, the laws of physics are suspended.

    Especially the legs. They are always floating above the head.
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    May 24, 2008 10:01 PM GMT
    It's not because I'm gay. It's because I have a birth defect.
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    May 24, 2008 11:04 PM GMT
    Well, bad news. You're burning more than 800 calories a day. If your cardio specifically burned those 800 calories during your workout, what do you think happens for the rest of the day?

    I doubt you've taken all of your metabolism into account in your equation.

    If you eat 2200 calories a day and burn 2201 calories a day, you'll begin to lose weight.

    If you eat 2200 calories a day and burn 800, you'll gain weight. If this nutrition is not being used to repair muscle and other tissue, chances are your body will store it as fat.

    Talk to a nutritionist and work with a trainer. Assuming you have no debilitating disease that prevents you from actually building muscle (muscular dystrophy, etc.), taxing your muscles to where they break down, providing them with nutrition and rest will make them grow.

    Weeding through your math, I'd suspect you are doing cardio and workouts to increase your metabolism. You may in fact be under-eating and under-resting. Your trainer and a nutritionist will give you a better plan.
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    May 25, 2008 11:25 AM GMT
    Guys, thanks for the useful advise and help.... both serious and well.... now I am considering going straight since it will supposedly help my waistline icon_biggrin.gif

    Seriously, though just to clarify, yeah the 800 calories is from exercise, so my using all the calculation tools that I can lay my hands on, I come up with around about 2800 calories burnt per day.... sorry for making myself unclear.

    I have been seriously considering the over training angle but have been a bit scared to scale back, reckoning that it might have an adverse effect but have decided that seeing as nothing has changed for like.... forever... why not give it a try, what is the worst that could happen??

    Also on the composition of what I eat daily, again time and research has been expended over the months and i cannot believe that i am eating wrong or excessively. Protien is there, as are carbs, in fact I felt that fat might be a bit low.

    The comment by Unclevername on his BF having a similar problem has been a bit of an inspiration.... last week i switched my training to a full body more intense session but only 3 times a week (ok so my comments earlier related to way i trained up until last week)... so I will keep you posted on what transpires in the next 4 weeks... I dont expect to come up with heaps of muscle but i am hoping for some interesting changes to begin to occur.

    Thanks again