Gay Kiss Prompts Football Players to Walk Out of Connecticut High School Musical

  • metta

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    Oct 19, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
    Gay Kiss Prompts Football Players to Walk Out of Connecticut High School Musical

    http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2011/10/17/connecticut-musical-stirs-controversy-after-2-men-kiss-during-performance/


    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/10/gay-kiss-prompts-football-players-to-walk-out-of-connecticut-high-school-musical.html

    The school has it's own GSA: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hartford-Public-High-School-GSA/148372951888205

    Wow...that is so cool...they have their own dances...I could never have imagined that happening when I was in school.. awesomeness!
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:22 PM GMT
    Football is a very homoerotic sport. All the jock straps, uniforms, body grinding and ass slapping.

    And then you have those high school coaches and their latent homosexual desires. My HS football coach made us play "skins vs shirts" in freezing weather, which, now that I think about it, was really homoerotic.
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:23 PM GMT
    I suspect the football players got turned on so they went into the locker room to have an orgy. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    SwimBIkeRun949 saidI suspect the football players got turned on so they went into the locker room to have an orgy. icon_smile.gif


    I came here to say the same thing
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
    as i posted in the other thread about this:

    As they say, the Hardest person to make Eye contact with is the TRUTH. Half of the Walkers-Out were probably Closet cases themselves...

    It's ridiculous though, even by their own standards. They're trying to make a point and an example, but the only message they are getting across is that they are close-minded and pretty much affirming the stereotype of "dumb jock." What are they trying to say? That footballers don't condone gay? That Footballers AREN'T gay? That footballers don't support equal rights? They're pretty much just making themselves look like the bigger bitches, honestly.

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    Oct 19, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    Well, I plan to walk out of the next football game, unless I see more hugging, kissing, butt slapping and body grinding.
  • LJay

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    Oct 19, 2011 8:39 PM GMT
    Sounds like a teach piece and I can even see the football team walking out as an intentional part of the play. Note the news story quote: "“Zanna Don’t!” depicts life at the fictitious Heartsville High, where students with academically-charged interests sit atop the popularity echelon while football players are the outcasts, and heterosexuals must conceal their sexual preference to avoid public scrutiny."

    The football team would have reason to be upset based on the portrayal of themselves alone, or 'says the discussion leader' were they upset at the gay kiss...

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    Oct 19, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    I don't think we do ourselves any favors by saying, "Obviously they're totally in the closet" or droning on about the alleged homoeroticism of football. It's a high brow but equally offensive way of saying "That's so gay."

    People can disagree about homosexuality without being hypocrites. And, the preaching of feminists and queer theorists notwithstanding, men can participate in competitive sports without performing some secret homoerotic desire.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    Larkin_PLR saidI don't think we do ourselves any favors by saying, "Obviously they're totally in the closet" or droning on about the alleged homoeroticism of football. It's a high brow but equally offensive way of saying "That's so gay."

    People can disagree about homosexuality without being hypocrites. And, the preaching of feminists and queer theorists notwithstanding, men can participate in competitive sports without performing some secret homoerotic desire.


    Google Homoeroticism of football and you get 955,000 entries...including articles from Time, Salon, etc.

    Google Homoeroticism of Golf, Baseball, Basketball and Tennis...and results barely reach 25% COMBINED.

    Just remember, it wasn't the Baseball team that walk out.icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
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    Larkin_PLR saidI don't think we do ourselves any favors by saying, "Obviously they're totally in the closet" or droning on about the alleged homoeroticism of football. It's a high brow but equally offensive way of saying "That's so gay."

    People can disagree about homosexuality without being hypocrites. And, the preaching of feminists and queer theorists notwithstanding, men can participate in competitive sports without performing some secret homoerotic desire.


    Just Google Homoeroticism of football and you get 955,000 entries...including articles from Time, Salon, etc.

    Google Homoeroticism of Golf, Baseball, Basketball and Tennis...and results barely reach 25% COMBINED.

    Just remember, it wasn't the Baseball team that walk out.


    I don't think "because Salon said so" really counts... much less "because Google said so".

    This attack on football and football culture is entirely cliche. Speaking as someone whose professional circles overlap significantly with people whose express purpose it is to undermine "masculinity", heteronormativity, traditional gender boundaries, and especially American ideals of the masculine, it's not shocking at all that a Google search turns up this trite, pedestrian idea. It's commonplace in the American academy that the more "masculine" you seem, the more "gay" you actually are. It's part of the gender theorists' strategy for undermining the idea of gender. While decrying the idea that "gay" looks like anything, they find the most masculine (or seemingly masculine) images or activities and basically say "look how gay that is!"

    And it's self-defeating.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    Larkin_PLR said
    White4DarkerFL said
    Larkin_PLR saidI don't think we do ourselves any favors by saying, "Obviously they're totally in the closet" or droning on about the alleged homoeroticism of football. It's a high brow but equally offensive way of saying "That's so gay."

    People can disagree about homosexuality without being hypocrites. And, the preaching of feminists and queer theorists notwithstanding, men can participate in competitive sports without performing some secret homoerotic desire.


    Just Google Homoeroticism of football and you get 955,000 entries...including articles from Time, Salon, etc.

    Google Homoeroticism of Golf, Baseball, Basketball and Tennis...and results barely reach 25% COMBINED.

    Just remember, it wasn't the Baseball team that walk out.


    I don't think "because Salon said so" really counts... much less "because Google said so".

    This attack on football and football culture is entirely cliche. Speaking as someone whose professional circles overlap significantly with people whose express purpose it is to undermine "masculinity", heteronormativity, traditional gender boundaries, and especially American ideals of the masculine, it's not shocking at all that a Google search turns up this trite, pedestrian idea. It's commonplace in the American academy that the more "masculine" you seem, the more "gay" you actually are. It's part of the gender theorists' strategy for undermining the idea of gender. While decrying the idea that "gay" looks like anything, they find the most masculine (or seemingly masculine) images or activities and basically say "look how gay that is!"

    And it's self-defeating.



    ... and so begins the "I USE BIGGER WORDS SO I WIN" debate.icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    the more things change..the more things stay the same. We still have a long way to go - especially with our youth. These are probably the same guys that bully gay students and any other student that behaves differently. SO sad....really. And my home state too...make me even sadder.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
    cyberwrassler saidthe more things change..the more things stay the same. We still have a long way to go - especially with our youth. These are probably the same guys that bully gay students and any other student that behaves differently. SO sad....really. And my home state too...make me even sadder.



    SADDER ISN'T A WORD. UR ONLY ALOWED TO USE BIG WORDS HEER.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:14 PM GMT
    Jeandeau said

    ... and so begins the "I USE BIGGER WORDS SO I WIN" debate.icon_eek.gif


    I actually speak like that... icon_razz.gif

    A product of my training.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
    Larkin_PLR said
    Jeandeau said

    ... and so begins the "I USE BIGGER WORDS SO I WIN" debate.icon_eek.gif


    I actually speak like that... icon_razz.gif

    A product of my training.


    Then you must sound like you speak a foreign language down in FL...

    Oh wait, that was a mean judgement. *People in the south are smart! People in the south ARE smart!* I keep forgetting.
  • cyberwrassler

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    Oct 19, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
    wow..it's funny..I was gonna post a new forum about how RUDE people are...but instead saw this and had a BIGGER reaction....then I have my grammar corrected.....what is SADDER than that....how much RUDER can people be haha I will do better next time men...so sorry.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    cyberwrassler saidwow..it's funny..I was gonna post a new forum about how RUDE people are...but instead saw this and had a BIGGER reaction....then I have my grammar corrected.....what is SADDER than that....how much RUDER can people be haha I will do better next time men...so sorry.



    Apparently you missed the joke.... No offense intended. I was hoping the obvious misspellings etc. would be a hint to my sarcasm. sryz icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    no I didn't miss it....I was being sarcastic too..not the HAHA ooops.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:21 PM GMT
    damn typos are gonna KILL me. NOTE the HAHA whatever....
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:23 PM GMT
    The article didn't state it outright but I get a feeling this performance was done during normal school hours and all students were required to attend.

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    Oct 19, 2011 9:26 PM GMT
    ATC84 saidThe article didn't state it outright but I get a feeling this performance was done during normal school hours and all students were required to attend.



    Yeah i was kind of thinking that myself. In which case I can *SORT OF* understand. That'd be like FORCING me to sit through a class about giving birth....


    Oh wait they did that..

    Either way, I understand how if it's 'offensive' people shoudl have the opportunity to opt out, but when you reverser the situation (ironically enough, as the play was doing) it'd be just as big of a deal if the GLEE club walked out of a performance about footballers impregnating bitches and making out with hos at a frat party.
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
    Larkin_PLR said
    White4DarkerFL said
    Larkin_PLR saidI don't think we do ourselves any favors by saying, "Obviously they're totally in the closet" or droning on about the alleged homoeroticism of football. It's a high brow but equally offensive way of saying "That's so gay."

    People can disagree about homosexuality without being hypocrites. And, the preaching of feminists and queer theorists notwithstanding, men can participate in competitive sports without performing some secret homoerotic desire.


    Just Google Homoeroticism of football and you get 955,000 entries...including articles from Time, Salon, etc.

    Google Homoeroticism of Golf, Baseball, Basketball and Tennis...and results barely reach 25% COMBINED.

    Just remember, it wasn't the Baseball team that walk out.


    I don't think "because Salon said so" really counts... much less "because Google said so".

    This attack on football and football culture is entirely cliche. Speaking as someone whose professional circles overlap significantly with people whose express purpose it is to undermine "masculinity", heteronormativity, traditional gender boundaries, and especially American ideals of the masculine, it's not shocking at all that a Google search turns up this trite, pedestrian idea. It's commonplace in the American academy that the more "masculine" you seem, the more "gay" you actually are. It's part of the gender theorists' strategy for undermining the idea of gender. While decrying the idea that "gay" looks like anything, they find the most masculine (or seemingly masculine) images or activities and basically say "look how gay that is!"

    And it's self-defeating.


    Google is the most successful Internet company ever...used by billions and worth billions...while Larkin PLR peddles regurgitated right wing drivel.

    If you say Google is trite and pedestrian...what does that make you?
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    Oct 19, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL said
    Google is the most successful Internet company ever...used by billions and worth billions...while Larkin PLR peddles regurgitated right wing drivel.

    If you say Google is trite and pedestrian...what does that make you?


    "Google is the biggest corporation ever!"... awesome. I'm sure that makes the 4 million hits for "Obama is secretly Muslim" totally legit.

    And I didn't say Google was trite and pedestrian (not that it matters anyway: it's not like Google "said" anything on the subject. Google is a search engine). Google is just not very discriminating. I said the criticism of masculinity and football is trite and pedestrian, and after almost a decade working on the subject of masculinity among the same people who purposely perpetuate that idea, I should be in a position to know.
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    I wonder how many football players would have stayed if it hadn't been for saving face with the rest of the team.

    This is the article that appeared in the Hartford Courant:
    http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-hartford-zanna-1015-20111014,0,7757340.story
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    Oct 19, 2011 10:20 PM GMT
    runnerjc saidI wonder how many football players would have stayed if it hadn't been for saving face with the rest of the team.

    This is the article that appeared in the Hartford Courant:
    http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-hartford-zanna-1015-20111014,0,7757340.story


    The musical is obviously a success: this is exactly what performance art is supposed to do. Good job to all involved.