Judging based on appearance

  • BCSwimmer

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    Oct 19, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
    Here is a short but sweet video.

    My take on it is that most of us make judgements based on appearance: while a person in a cute bear costume may be deserving of a hug, are "less attractive" people not also deserving of the same attention?

    While this is specifically about making "handicaps disappear" I also looked at it from the standpoint of superficially judging others based on their appearance alone (whether because they aren't the right body shape, right age, creed, race, etc).

    We really are all the same on the inside. I found it eye opening. What is your take on it?

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    Oct 19, 2011 7:45 PM GMT
    I think that we all do that 'scan' of a person when we first see them and form opinions based on past experiences.

    I try not to do that as much as I can because of how often my first impressions were shattered once I've gotten to know someone. I find it a hard thing not to do.
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:00 PM GMT
    There was a fairly recent similar thread with a video of uncostumed Europeans standing in a square with outstretched arms offering free hugs (I don't have the wherewithal right now to track it down) and regardless of their level of attractiveness some pedestrians took the bait. (Perhaps smiles and body language constituted "appearance" more than attractiveness in this case.) But what you see is not necessarily what you get; we're not all the same inside, but perhaps film critics are; whenever I see a bear costume I think of the initial reviews of the movie "The Hotel New Hampshire" complaining that the filmmakers should've stuck Jodie Foster instead of Nastassja Kinski in the bear suit.
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    Aw that was soooo cute. icon_cry.gif
  • mizu5

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    Oct 19, 2011 8:41 PM GMT
    I loved this.

    I want a hug.
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    Oct 19, 2011 8:59 PM GMT
    I dunno why but as for me I never really thought that the body was something important... Well it never was a huge criteria!

    But I guess that in 2011 it's something important, the appearance etc.. icon_sad.gif
  • kuroshiro

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    Oct 19, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
    The making of video is quite touching as well.



    Transcript:

    Interviewer: So you want to start? We're going to start shooting soon, are you nervous?

    Fabian: No, I'm not nervous, even though I know that entire switzerland might see me...

    I: What kind of feeling is that? Are you looking forward to it?

    F: Yes

    I: How do you feel it's going to turn out? Can you Imagine?

    F: Imagine? Not really.. because if I would, I'd be like my left hand and unable to move. So I'll just go with it.

    I: That's good! So how does one feel as a bear?

    F: Well, it isn't a real bear...

    I: Yes but you'll be the bear then.. you almost wont be Fabian anymore, or will you?

    F: I'll just be a masked Fabian

    I: How do you feel will the people on the street react to you?

    F: I'm sure there are two kind of reactions, people who'll think it's funny and people who will take it as it is. It's always like that...

    Interviewer 2: With you personally, how would you feel if somebody hugged you?

    F: Then I try to judge if the person might be dangerous or not.

    I: So then you're always a little scared?

    F: Not, I learned Judo for a reason. There are people who think I'm funny or bully me and I beware of such people but with people who take me as I am, I'm completely normal. Just like every other human being.

    I: Do you think that allot of people will participate?

    F: Yes, or else the bear will growl

    text says: " Do we have to wear a costume for us to come closer?" - "come closer

    I: So how was it for you to shoot?

    F: Completely normal, just as I always am when I'm outside.

    I: Isn't it special when so many people are standing around you and spectating?

    F: That happens allot to me when I'm at the train station.. there are people who ask themselves how well I'm able to move, and now it was basically the same.

    I: Could you tell the people who don't know you yet, who you are, how old you are and what you do in your life?

    F: I'm 27, I work at the care facility "Turicum" (Roman name for the city of Zurich) and my biggest dream is to get a job at the police station in a year or so...

    I: How comes you've decided to participate in this commercial spot for "Pro Infirmis? Why does one participate in such a project?

    F: I thought there aren't many disabled people who are brave enough to work on a spot that everyone will be able to see.

    I: Did it take some courage?

    F: No, not that much for me.

    I: What do you feel like people who are not disabled should know about people that are? What do we not understand about disabled people? What do we do wrong or right?

    F: I first had a worse injury but I've managed to train it away with the phisiotherapist... and just that you take disabled people as they are and offer to help maybe.

    I: Good, then I thank you for participating and fighting through it as the Judo fighter that you are. Thank you

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    Oct 19, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    Hmmm...profound! Makes you think about what biases you might possess yourself.
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    Oct 20, 2011 1:02 AM GMT
    wow. that made me very emotional- it really touched me.

    Thanks for sharing that. It makes us think about how we as people tend to run scared from people who are different than us or treat people differently because we are uneducated about them.

    Thanks again.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 20, 2011 1:06 AM GMT
    Very nice video, thanks for sharing that. Should make us all think a bit.
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    Oct 20, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    Trollileo saidIt's impossible not to judge based on appearances at first.

    I disagree with that (and note your edit).

    I grew up in a family (mostly my father) that was very conservative and judgmental about nearly everyone. This left me with a real sense that this kind of prejudice was not only not fair, but made my father a pretty isolated man for most of his life who clung to his prejudices rather than be open and get to know people.

    It made me just the opposite. I am very inclined to get to know people despite their differences or disabilities. I've gotten to know some really interesting and inspiring people because of it.

    This video and this thread are really touching.
  • JoeKIngJay

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    Oct 20, 2011 4:28 AM GMT
    What a great video. Thanks for the post BCSwimmer.
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    Oct 20, 2011 4:47 AM GMT
    Trollileo said

    Edit: Came off as a dick. I'm sorry. Fixing, because I don't actually feel this way.


    I suspect that the first answer showed how you really felt icon_twisted.gif
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    Oct 20, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    I'm not sure what I learned from the video.

    Did the costume give him confidence to stand there with open arms, something he wouldn't have had if he were costumeless? If so, what has he learned from this? To disguise himself to be accepted?

    I mean, I like hugging, and if someone needs a hug, there I am. But the message here is really strained.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:02 AM GMT
    Trollileo saidIt's impossible not to judge based on appearances at first. I think one reason if you find it hard to get along with people who tend not to fit in well with their peers is because they constantly face rejection so therefore they are more likely to do things defensively that will push your attempts at friendliness away.

    Edit: Came off as a dick. I'm sorry. Fixing, because I don't actually feel this way.


    Well I do think its true.. i think appearance makes us judge split-second and sub-consciously.... it takes a bit of work to "turn that off" if you will
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:09 AM GMT
    I need to start judging guys based on appearance. Judging them based on personality sucks just as much.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:16 AM GMT
    Am I the only one who would have hugged the guy without the bear costume on? If we're talking about romantic interest, then yes, I base some of it on appearance. But if we're talking about just friendly interaction, then I'd like to think that appearance doesn't matter that much to me.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:16 AM GMT
    dekiruman saidI need to start judging guys based on appearance. Judging them based on personality sucks just as much.


    I think I will give you a hug!

    BEAR HUG!
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:32 AM GMT
    oh Lord Swiss German...lol


    The Video was super cute though!
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:48 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidI'm not sure what I learned from the video.

    Did the costume give him confidence to stand there with open arms, something he wouldn't have had if he were costumeless? If so, what has he learned from this? To disguise himself to be accepted?

    I mean, I like hugging, and if someone needs a hug, there I am. But the message here is really strained.
    No, it didn't.

    The idea is based on other people. Their reactions to seeing someone in a bear mascot costume is quite positive, whereas people's reactions to handicapped people are generally negative.

    The point it's making is that we are all equal, regardless of what we look like, and we shouldn't deny people of friendship and acceptance just because of how they look.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:58 AM GMT
    Trollileo said
    Global_Citizen said
    Trollileo saidIt's impossible not to judge based on appearances at first.

    I disagree with that (and note your edit).

    I grew up in a family (mostly my father) that was very conservative and judgmental about nearly everyone. This left me with a real sense that this kind of prejudice was not only not fair, but made my father a pretty isolated man for most of his life who clung to his prejudices rather than be open and get to know people.

    It made me just the opposite. I am very inclined to get to know people despite their differences or disabilities. I've gotten to know some really interesting and inspiring people because of it.

    This video and this thread are really touching.
    I judge everyone. Regardless of who they are. I just keep my initial impressions to myself.

    My roommate from freshman year was on the larger side. I didn't respect him as much at first and at the end of the year we hated each other. We're in our 3rd year and now we're best friends. Same thing happened with my four current roommates. I didn't really like them at first, but I kept those opinions to myself. Now we're all really close and live in one of the greatest quasi-frats houses in town with no conflicts.


    see how much easier life is when you close your mouth and open your butt-hole guys?
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    Oct 20, 2011 7:05 AM GMT
    Look at all you idealist hippies, sorry to break it to you but...

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    Oct 20, 2011 7:08 AM GMT
    FootballHawk saidLook at all you idealist hippies, sorry to break it to you but...

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    If we're gonna judge based on look, you look like a stuck-up douchebag queen.
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    Oct 20, 2011 7:10 AM GMT
    FootballHawk saidLook at all you idealist hippies, sorry to break it to you but...

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    That's really immature.............probably made by a bunch of limp dicked assholes.
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    Oct 20, 2011 7:11 AM GMT
    FootballHawk saidLook at all you idealist hippies, sorry to break it to you but...

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    That can be said about a lot of people.

    There are people who would say you need liquor or a bag to fuck me.

    Doesn't mean I'm not worth dating. That girl may be the loveliest person ever.