Do you believe that a person can die from losing the will to live?

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    Oct 20, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/19/long-married-couple_n_1020085.html?

    I realize that this couple had been in an auto accident, but I've also heard that sometimes after a couple has been together for a number of years, when one passes, the other does not live very long because they lose their "will to live."

    Any thoughts?
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    Oct 20, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    Absolutely!

    I work in an ER, so I've seen my share of people who have died.

    When we are talking about "natural" death or the body shutting down, if you talk to a family at length about the experience they will talk of a time when their loved one had the spirit to keep going, and at some point that spirit faded and they quickly faded to death.

    Our motivation and our will to live keeps our brain going. When we resolve to finally rest and give up the brain follows suit.
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    Oct 20, 2011 5:39 PM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takotsubo_cardiomyopathy
    Because this weakening can be triggered by emotional stress, such as the death of a loved one, a break-up, or constant anxiety, the condition is also known as broken heart syndrome

    In dream yoga, it is said there can be experienced what is referred to as "the clear light of sleep" and also "the clear light of death". Supposedly it is possible to enter consciously the clear light of death at which point the body's life ends but I have not yet witnessed personally nor read anything I consider convincing beyond doubt as to evidence, neither empirical nor subjective.
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    Oct 20, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
    Yes
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    Oct 20, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
    yes
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    Oct 20, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    Yup.

    The right amount of pessimism or lack of enthusiasm will literally corrupt your immune system and promote physiologically harmful chemicals.
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    Oct 20, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    holy SHIT this is a tear-jarking excerpt from the article:

    At 3:38 pm last Wednesday, Gordon's breathing stopped. Though he had passed, his heart monitor continued to register a beat.

    The nurse told Gordon and Norma's son, Dennis Yeager, that the monitor was beeping "because they're holding hands, and [Norma's heart beat] is going through them," Dennis recalled in an interview with Des Moines' KCCI news station. "Her heart was beating through him."
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:10 PM GMT
    Yes. Its known as failure to thrive.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    So touching, it brought a tear to my eye.

    I am glad to see that someone (theantijock) has already brought up the colloquially called "broken-heart syndrome". Severe emotional trauma does cause a weakening of the myocardia and, more common in the elderly who perhaps are less resilient than their younger counterparts, that can lead to death (I won't bother to site a reference as many of those can be found on the wiki page in theantijobk's link).

    Last year my spouse of almost 17 years, who was also my best friend, died from a brain tumour after a 7 year battle. For years he had said he needed to stay around to "take care of me" and I had to "give him permission" to go - letting him know I would be alright (not sure how this is coming across in the written word but I hope some of you will "get" what I am saying).

    I can attest that the severity of the pain is unbelievably profound, the physical sensation of the stress to the myocardium is remarkable. If you do have a chance to read up on it (such as citations via the wiki link in the post above) you will learn that it takes about 6 weeks following the trauma for the myocardium to return to it's normal healthy state.

    As previously mentioned, for the elderly; those with weakened immune systems; and some who don't have a glimmer of desire to carry on; the actual physical stress on the myocardia can be enough to kill them, often not as fast as this case (1 hour) but typically before the 6 weeks it takes for the muscle to heal. So yes, I believe a person can die from losing their will to live.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    Yes
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:13 PM GMT
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    Tragic... icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
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    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    Yes, also with pets. I knew some people who could no longer keep their dog and arranged to have someone responsible give the dog a good home. The dog was healthy and not too old, but within a few weeks passed away. I'm convinced the dog died of a broken heart.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.


    Are you trying to be funny (it's not) or are you serious?
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    Edward22 said
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    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad


    Bitch please, you are so delusional you put "beefy" as your build when clearly you are a twig. You couldnt fuck up shit, you just come on to the internet to try to be bad ass when we all know you get the shit kicked out of your sorry ass every day of the week.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    Happens all the time; they die of a severely broken-heart.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad


    Bitch please, you are so delusional you put "beefy" as your build when clearly you are a twig. You couldnt fuck up shit, you just come on to the internet to try to be bad ass when we all know you get the shit kicked out of your sorry ass every day of the week.
    Your a very funny person Chainers. But this right here is stupid you don't know a damn thing about me and for you to make up these idiotic accusations is making you even more stupid. Instead of arguing with you i am gonna ignore it. Your threats and words don't mean shit. BTW i was replying to the forum not someone who seems to obessed with everything that i say or do here. And you call me delusional look in a mirror sometimes fucktard
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad


    Bitch please, you are so delusional you put "beefy" as your build when clearly you are a twig. You couldnt fuck up shit, you just come on to the internet to try to be bad ass when we all know you get the shit kicked out of your sorry ass every day of the week.
    Your a very funny person Chainers. But this right here is stupid you don't know a damn thing about me and for you to make up these idiotic accusations is making you even more stupid. Instead of arguing with you i am gonna ignore it. Your threats and words don't mean shit. BTW i was replying to the forum not someone who seems to obessed with everything that i say or do here. And you call me delusional look in a mirror sometimes fucktard


    Bitch please, you keep talking about ignoring me but you are so damn stupid you cant even fucking do it. Drink gasoline and die bitch, its all you will ever be good for.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad


    Bitch please, you are so delusional you put "beefy" as your build when clearly you are a twig. You couldnt fuck up shit, you just come on to the internet to try to be bad ass when we all know you get the shit kicked out of your sorry ass every day of the week.
    Your a very funny person Chainers. But this right here is stupid you don't know a damn thing about me and for you to make up these idiotic accusations is making you even more stupid. Instead of arguing with you i am gonna ignore it. Your threats and words don't mean shit. BTW i was replying to the forum not someone who seems to obessed with everything that i say or do here. And you call me delusional look in a mirror sometimes fucktard


    Bitch please, you keep talking about ignoring me but you are so damn stupid you cant even fucking do it. Drink gasoline and die bitch, its all you will ever be good for.
    LOL don't me mad why are you attacking me in the first fucking place? dumbass. Oh and no i won't die and i would like to see you try to do something about it. Oh i forgot your just a fatass ugly faggot bottom that talks shit over the internet and has fake ass friends defend you and say that your real nice in person when you are clearly not. Deranged cunt you need to be locked up in a psych ward. Fatass
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:35 PM GMT
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad


    Bitch please, you are so delusional you put "beefy" as your build when clearly you are a twig. You couldnt fuck up shit, you just come on to the internet to try to be bad ass when we all know you get the shit kicked out of your sorry ass every day of the week.
    Your a very funny person Chainers. But this right here is stupid you don't know a damn thing about me and for you to make up these idiotic accusations is making you even more stupid. Instead of arguing with you i am gonna ignore it. Your threats and words don't mean shit. BTW i was replying to the forum not someone who seems to obessed with everything that i say or do here. And you call me delusional look in a mirror sometimes fucktard


    Bitch please, you keep talking about ignoring me but you are so damn stupid you cant even fucking do it. Drink gasoline and die bitch, its all you will ever be good for.
    LOL don't me mad why are you attacking me in the first fucking place? dumbass. Oh and no i won't die and i would like to see you try to do something about it. Oh i forgot your just a fatass ugly faggot bottom that talks shit over the internet and has fake ass friends defend you and say that your real nice in person when you are clearly not. Deranged cunt you need to be locked up in a psych ward. Fatass


    Thank you that was just what I wanted....lol
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:37 PM GMT
    Seriously guys, many of us come here to read the views of others on topics of interest to us and we don't have an interest in your private rantings to each other.

    Please communicate directly with each other and take it off the forums.

    Surely I can't speak for everyone but I suspect the overwhelming vast majority of us don't care to see your rabid attacks on each other.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Medically speaking, I learned about it and wrote a thesis for it in high school.
    "Although "heartbreak" is usually a metaphor, there is a condition known as "broken heart syndrome", where a traumatizing incident triggers the brain to distribute chemicals that weaken heart tissue." - Wikipedia.

    It's completely true... one can die from the loss of another.
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    Oct 20, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 said
    Chainers said
    Edward22 saidYes


    Then I hope to god you lose the will to live soon. Lord knows we dont need to see your ugly face anymore.
    Your words mean nothing. Threatening and putting curses on me will only make yourself look bad


    Bitch please, you are so delusional you put "beefy" as your build when clearly you are a twig. You couldnt fuck up shit, you just come on to the internet to try to be bad ass when we all know you get the shit kicked out of your sorry ass every day of the week.
    Your a very funny person Chainers. But this right here is stupid you don't know a damn thing about me and for you to make up these idiotic accusations is making you even more stupid. Instead of arguing with you i am gonna ignore it. Your threats and words don't mean shit. BTW i was replying to the forum not someone who seems to obessed with everything that i say or do here. And you call me delusional look in a mirror sometimes fucktard


    Bitch please, you keep talking about ignoring me but you are so damn stupid you cant even fucking do it. Drink gasoline and die bitch, its all you will ever be good for.
    LOL don't me mad why are you attacking me in the first fucking place? dumbass. Oh and no i won't die and i would like to see you try to do something about it. Oh i forgot your just a fatass ugly faggot bottom that talks shit over the internet and has fake ass friends defend you and say that your real nice in person when you are clearly not. Deranged cunt you need to be locked up in a psych ward. Fatass


    Thank you and reported. Enjoy!
    Nigga please you've been saying this bullshit to rail me up and then when i retaliated you wanna do that shit. I don't give a fuck about you or anyone else reporting me bitch. I'm still gonna be here you can't stop me ugly hoe