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    May 25, 2008 6:16 AM GMT
    I was riding my bike this afternoon and was on a good long climb, when I passed a guy on a bike with full gear from 'the Tour de France store" and a nice carbon fiber bike etc. and he has a cigarette in his mouth, smoking away as he is fading on this hill! I litterally broke stride when I saw this...WTF? Does any one have a possible explanation or is the guy just a 'tard? I understand the "addiction" thing, but while you are bike riding...up a long steep hill? Smoking is a "pet peeve"....icon_razz.gif
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    May 25, 2008 6:20 AM GMT
    Not to mention the possibility of causing a forest fire!!! Son of a ...
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    May 25, 2008 6:22 AM GMT
    well he could be sitting in a car smoking and breathing in everyone elses fumes thats just as deadly nowadays
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    May 25, 2008 6:23 AM GMT
    Smoking.. definite deal breaker with me.

    Possible reasons...

    1. Gets a sadistic thrill out of taking a drag off death while riding a bike up a hill?
    2. Gets a sadistic thrill knowing a non smoker is saying WTF? watching him take a drag off death while riding a bike up a hill?

    icon_smile.gif Why do we do the things we do?!
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    May 25, 2008 6:30 AM GMT
    I also can't stand cigarrete smoke
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    May 25, 2008 8:03 AM GMT
    lol, wow you guys are funny. Well smoking is bad for you its also very addictive, more addictive then heroin, or gasp even meth. That said, I am in a constant struggle to quit smoking, its tough, very tough.

    Some people have no problem quitting while others have a very difficult time. No one knows why. This guy may want to quit, he surely knows about the health effects. In fact most smokers hate the fact that they smoke. Most smokers don't want to smoke, it's very tough.

    Now, while your bike riding? That's another story altogether, and yes perhaps he is a douche or he just was riding a long time and wanted a drag right when he was exerting himself the most, lol. who knows?

    And don't be too harsh on smokers, we all want to quit, some are more successful then others.
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    May 25, 2008 8:55 AM GMT
    Dont be hard om yourself EMS I am totaly with ya

    In fact this one made me giggle as the reason I ride my bike round the oh so dangerous, not, streets of London, is that I cant have a fag on public transport system.

    I made a flippant ironic statement about car fumes earlier, as whilst people may not be intentionaly poisioning their bodies by sitting in cars and traffic all the while as they do none the less the result is the same, they know better and they know they shouldnt but still they do

    My body is a temple its just the design is a bit haywire!
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    May 25, 2008 9:03 AM GMT
    I am not being hard on myself, I am just being honest. I quit last December. I have quit some 7 times now, as I always want to be smoke free, but occasionally I will slip up, usually when drinking and around other smokers. So I try not to drink much anymore.
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    May 25, 2008 2:59 PM GMT
    Smoking really should be Banned! Its a horrible addiction. You could say so about drinking though too.

    I have been told "by smokers" smoking opens up the air ways.....I doubt it. But thats what they tell me. I use to run with guys who smoke in the Army. Oddly enough none of the smokers Finished first as I always did...well not always but I was always in the top 3-5.

    Smoking is just bad.
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    May 25, 2008 3:06 PM GMT
    Whenever I see someone smoking these days, I tend to view them as ignorant. Just someone who isn't taking the responsibility to lead life in the right way.
    I especially have this view if I see a woman yelling at kids with a cigarette in her face. The only possible exception to this view are for people my parents age....but you've got to wonder there too.

    And to hear smokers say, "I have rights too"....
    Well go out back behind the trash can and excercise them....

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    May 25, 2008 3:12 PM GMT
    EMSman saidlol, wow you guys are funny. Well smoking is bad for you its also very addictive, more addictive then heroin, or gasp even meth. That said, I am in a constant struggle to quit smoking, its tough, very tough.

    Some people have no problem quitting while others have a very difficult time. No one knows why. This guy may want to quit, he surely knows about the health effects. In fact most smokers hate the fact that they smoke. Most smokers don't want to smoke, it's very tough.

    Now, while your bike riding? That's another story altogether, and yes perhaps he is a douche or he just was riding a long time and wanted a drag right when he was exerting himself the most, lol. who knows?

    And don't be too harsh on smokers, we all want to quit, some are more successful then others.



    One time I saw a guy standing in the ocean up to his chest, smoking a cigarette and kinda drifting up when a gentle wave came in...still smoking...well, maybe it was me, but the point is it was very funny.
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    May 25, 2008 3:14 PM GMT
    Was he French?
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    May 25, 2008 3:15 PM GMT
    "I have rights too!"

    Your rights end where mine begin, and your smoking definitely envelopes me in poisons and neither you nor I have any way to make your poisons only affect you.

    So get your fucking smoke out of my face. >:-|
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    May 25, 2008 3:17 PM GMT
    redheadguy saidWas he French?


    Maybe it was me...In France...
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    May 25, 2008 3:18 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]EMSman said[/cite] I quit last December. I have quit some 7 times now, as I always want to be smoke free, but occasionally I will slip up,[/quote]
    This is exactly the problem with smoking period, it's so addictive. I personally feel sorry for smokers because of the difficulty in quiting, despite my dislike for it. I've often said, I'd rather my kids smoke pot than cigarettes (don't tell them that!). I'm guessing this guy would really like to quit, but it's just not that easy. Keep trying EMS, you can do it.... prove it to us that you can!!!
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    May 25, 2008 4:30 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said Just someone who isn't taking the responsibility to lead life in the right way.


    I know! Like WHAT THE FUCK! What is he thinking!? Oh the Humanity! /swoon

    No to single you out.. Wait. Check that. Yes, specifically to single you out, because you stepped in it bud.

    Why are you running around porking guys in the butt? How's that supposed to help humanity, huh, HUH? You tell me.

    You need to live the Right Way™, according to Me©.

    So conform, mofo, before I stick your ass in manacles and let the crabs eat you alive.

    Consume: Conform; Control.
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    May 25, 2008 4:43 PM GMT
    EMSman saidI am not being hard on myself, I am just being honest. I quit last December. I have quit some 7 times now, as I always want to be smoke free, but occasionally I will slip up, usually when drinking and around other smokers. So I try not to drink much anymore.


    My mom beat the habit after 20 years of smoking. You can do it man! Keep trying!
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    May 25, 2008 7:21 PM GMT
    icon_eek.gifI'm glad some of us are admitting to smoke and are willing to talk about it. Can you imagine smoking,in the closet? NOW THAT'S STUPID!!! We all know it's difficult,i'm trying to quit too. But i'm sure none of us are as idiotic as that guy huffing uphill!
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    May 25, 2008 7:24 PM GMT
    I'm a non-smoker but the self-righteousness that always comes up on these smoking threads makes me want to go buy a pack of cigarettes and blow the smoke in this general direction.
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    May 25, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    innerathlete saidI'm a non-smoker but the self-righteousness that always comes up on these smoking threads makes me want to go buy a pack of cigarettes and blow the smoke in this general direction.


    haahahahahhaha
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    May 25, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    Some smokers believe they can avert any cigarette-related ailment by performing physically demanding exercise. I don't know where this logic stems from for them, but that biker obviously thinks he'll be okay doing both.

    At my gym, for example, I will sometimes see some guys lighting up after working out in the parking lot. What morons!! And a couple of them are muscularly big, too. All that great exercise just to retard their inner-progress by smoking. YUCK!!

    Like many of you, I, too, can't stand cigarette smoke.
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    May 25, 2008 9:22 PM GMT
    ok so some of you are rather harsh, and I agree there are some tools out there that, pardon the pun, blow smoke in your face. That said a lot of smokers hate it, addiction is difficult.

    I am thinking of taking up crack to quit for good but, I will always be quitting, once you smoke you usually want to again even after years of not smoking.

    I started in the military. For some reason gay guys smoke a lot and military guys smoke a lot. I will succeed! cause I usually succeed at everything I do.

    I just don't get the disdain for smokers that sometimes comes from people. Its generalizations/stereotypes that are really annoying to me. I only smoked outside, and never around people that disliked the smoke. I hated the way it made me smell, and I was constantly chewing gum.

    Other then the fact that you "burn" an additional 200 calories a day it is a horrible addiction. but then again the tumors will eventually burn many more calories. If you like the waif look, then keep on smoking.

    I just think about all the negatives whenever I want to light up and it stops me from buying a pack. And some of you need to work on being less judgmental and more accepting, unless thats the way you want to be viewed.
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    May 26, 2008 12:28 AM GMT
    While I don't like the smell of cigarets, I understand that it is very addictive and very difficult to quit.

    We all have issues, and we all have struggles. What we all also need is compassion. It's tough to quit. Just stick with it and try new things. Eventually you'll find something that works for you.

    One day I just up and threw them out. I was over it. But just because it worked for me, doesn't mean that it's going to work for anyone else.
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    May 26, 2008 3:06 AM GMT
    I never meant to open up a "can of worms" over "smoking"...I only needed to state my total disbelief that anyone could smoke and ride their bike up a hill at the same time....I am still just dumbfounded by that entire senario...
    I understand the "addiction" and the difficulties involved in dealing with an "addiction" ....the urge never stops and it never completly goes away. Addictions are a vindictive and cruel master that exact a pound of flesh at your weakest moments.....Smoking is a pet peeve of mine because it has killed so many of my relatives and is taking my brother and Step-father right now, with cancer and emphysema.
    I don't like smoke and I actually have an allergy to it that makes me sick, so I avoid it at almost all costs. So this isn't about "you" its about ME and taking care of myself.
    Those of you who do smoke and want to quit and have tried to stop, I applaud your efforts and support your repeated attempts at quitting...do whatever it takes! In Ohio, state law has outlawed smoking in all bars, restaurants, bowling allies, public buildings, etc, and even outside within 25 feet of doors, windows that open, and HVAC intakes..... I don't like that "Big Brother" is stepping on the freedom of some to smoke, but too many smokers are very rude and unwilling to recognize the clean air rights of those who choose to not smoke...so this law is a result. I like the end results, but the means are a bit harsh, even if they are well intended.....
    I mean no disrespect to any smokers. I used to smoke as a teen, but I quit..."cold turkey", when it killed my two grandfathers....I understand the addiction and how uncomfortable and bitchy you get. Yes it is a powreful addiction, more-so than some of our street drugs...but it can be beaten.
    The worst addiction to beat is one to food. Of all the addictions possible, you can just stop doing anyone of them completely. you will be in pain, withdrawl, DT's, halucinate, etc, but that will all pass over time and you never have to do it again...But food...you have to eat. It is a requirement for life and you can't just quit eating...it will kill you if you go long enough....so all addictions are an exercise in personal responsibility and control.....ALL of them.icon_cool.gif
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    May 26, 2008 3:56 AM GMT
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    innerathlete saidI'm a non-smoker but the self-righteousness that always comes up on these smoking threads makes me want to go buy a pack of cigarettes and blow the smoke in this general direction.


    self righteous? since when is not wanting to be poisoned self righteous? personally i have to take drugs to suppress my system because cigarette toxins cause my airway to swell. immersed in enough cig. smoke for long enough [which really isn't very long] and my airway will close up entirely.

    the last time i checked, using a poison substance to cause a person's airway to close off was generally regarded as murder or attempted murder.

    the wording is more extreme but the end result is the same.

    if i "go buy a pack of " which causes heart attacks and blow the dust in your face, just a small amount at a time so you have ischemic cell death - but just a little at a time, am i guilty of murder when i finally kill off enough cells that your heart is no longer capable of functioning?

    the self-righteousness or willful naivety of some people astounds me.