Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with pedophiles and ephebophiles?

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    Oct 21, 2011 11:26 PM GMT

    Keeping in mind being horny for something doesn't equal engaging in that activity.

    When I was younger, I learned that pedos were evil and adopted that idea naturally. But now that I've grown up and have my own mind, I really don't think there's anything better or worse than someone who is attracted to under-agers or even little kids. They can't help what turns them on any more than I can. Actually I feel sorry for them because their ideal type is impossible for them to have.

    I would say "let's make this a topic where people are allowed to give any opinion without it being dismissed by "YUR JUST A SICK PEDOFILE!!" but I know it will happen anyway. What can ya do. Knee-jerk away.
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    Pedophile deadophile.
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:36 PM GMT
    Remember when Right Wingers said that teh ghey was a slippery slope to thinking pedophilia was ok, and we all called them crazy?

    Good times.
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:45 PM GMT
    Really, who cares what right-wingers say ever?
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:47 PM GMT
    SkinnyBitch saidReally, who cares what right-wingers say ever?


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    Oct 21, 2011 11:48 PM GMT
    *giggles & pokes Frosty*
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    Oct 22, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    There is really something wrong with the out-and-out pedophiles. Whether its taking the "lost youth" syndrome into a pathological extreme or whatever.

    But I am pretty uncomfortable with the blunt instrument laws that we have in this country. I don't see any evidence that they adequately separate the dangerous ones from the harmless ones. Or really do anything to reduce the danger from the real sickos.

    Also, it isn't easy to draw the line exactly where pedophilia starts. Are teenagers who sext each other pedophiles? Should they go to jail? It seems really wrong to send a 19 year-old to jail for 20 years because his 17 year-old girlfriend's parents don't like him.

    Something seems really wrong about sending people to long prison sentences for the crime of looking at a picture. (One guy locally was sentenced to 16 years last week for downloading a picture - and he happened to be an invalid who couldn't even get out of a hospital bed.) I seem to recall reading that the law was recently amended to clarify that accidentally viewing pictures of nude minors, without actually searching for them, is a felony. Couldn't you just anonymously email some pictures to your enemy, and call the police? Yes, you can. It all seems to have gotten rather out of hand.

    While we're at it, shouldn't we tear down all of the monuments in Washington, and scrub the founding fathers from our stamps, money, and history books? Those guys were all pedophiles.

    Anyway, I don't think pedo's should get off the hook, but the response / punishment should be a lot more proportional to the actual crime. It's hard to imagine any legislative body making such changes though. Even backing off the most absurd statutes would let your political opponents call you all sorts of vile things. Seems like it would have to be part of some larger judicial reform process.

    edit: obviously, I'm procrastinating some real work
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    Oct 22, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    I'm gonna say it: Pedophilia is sick. Children are innocent and loving and should never be looked at as anything to do with sexual fantasies, especially if acted upon would fuck up their lives.

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    Oct 22, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
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    Pedophile is a person who is attracted to kids, not a person who commits a crime in actually having sex with children. A person who commits the crime is called a criminal or sex offender or dickhead or whathaveyou.
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    Oct 22, 2011 2:50 AM GMT
    Seriously? There was a thread a while ago about sex and children or something, stop giving rightwingers ammo, don't discuss pedophilia on here! Homosexuality is between 2 consenting adults so it can't be compared, in any way, to pedophilia.
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    Oct 22, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    uhh did I say it had anything to do with homosexuality?

    also, I didn't bring it up, they were talking about it in another thread OT with tons of activity so I made this one to ask people if anyone else has cracked the taboo mold and can think of it objectively.

    Lastly, not talking about something doesn't make it go away.
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    Oct 22, 2011 3:24 AM GMT
    Wow, that was pretty hateful. Even with people I hate, I would put to death painlessly.

    With the amount of "Barely legal" porn out there, I think you'd take out half of the male population with that fantasy. But the lotto could easily be the death of you for being attracted to men or for wearing v-necks or any other reason someone might dislike you.
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    Oct 22, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
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    SkinnyBitch saidWow, that was pretty hateful. Even with people I hate, I would put to death painlessly.

    With the amount of "Barely legal" porn out there, I think you'd take out half of the male population with that fantasy. But the lotto could easily be the death of you for being attracted to men or for wearing v-necks or any other reason someone might dislike you.

    There's a big difference between "thinking about raping a child's butt" and "barely legal" porn (BARELY legal is still legal....those young adults are old enough to make an informed decision on how their images are used. And society has decreed that that's the threshold for legal sexual activity.)

    Pedophilia is an act of hatred. Seven billion of us on the planet....the gene pool is safe. We can afford to lose a few. icon_wink.gif )


    I don't think hate is in anyone's mind when they're horny.

    But really "barely legal" is what guys who want younger settle for. And it's HUGELY popular with straight men.

    If it's what gives them a boner and they don't act on it in any way or encourage others to act on it, what more can you expect them to do?
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    Oct 22, 2011 4:59 AM GMT
    Didn't say they were imagining 6 year olds, although some will be. The topic is about pedophilia and ephebophilia, which are attraction to pre-pubescent and post-pubescent people respectively.

    But there's no point if you're going to ignore the more important part of everything I've posted and focus on splitting hairs.
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    Oct 24, 2011 7:49 PM GMT
    I think a lot of folks in this thread lack the ability to think critically.

    Guys.. If you had a life long friend come to you, and confess that he had an attraction to children, or young teens, but had never once acted upon it, and really wanted help.. Just to be normal... How would you react?

    The sad fact is, a HUGE majority of people who deal with these attractions are regular people. There's a big chance that somebody you interact with on a daily basis has an attraction to people under age. But they can never have the confidence to get help because they would be crusified the second they opened their mouths. And there's a huge difference between having the attraction, and acting on the attraction. Hell.. How many guys have you known in your life that have a rape fantasy? And how do you think they would act had they REALLY been raped? Or really raped someone else?

    Brain: you have one.
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:40 PM GMT
    To add to KentuckyTuss's post -

    I actually just feel incredibly sad for pedophiles, because the vast majority of psychological information I've had to read about pedophiles points that their preferences is determined either genetically or at some early level of development (like in the womb). They have no choice over the preference, and there is no chance that their interest in children is ever going to NOT be considered one of the lowest 'evils' a person could do.

    Through work, I got to know a psychologist who worked in the prison system with pedophiles. He told me that all the therapists can do for them is to teach them to never act on their desire and impulses. There's no real treatment for it. He told me tons of inmates chose castration because it helps control the urges.

    Back when I used to read the Postsecret forums, I remember one topic where this guy in his early 20s was anonymously talking to the other posters about him realizing his attraction to children and wanted help dealing with the thoughts and avoiding ever becoming the sort of person that took advantage of an innocent kid... Incredibly sad stuff.

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    Oct 24, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
    Bale02 saidTo add to KentuckyTuss's post -

    I actually just feel incredibly sad for pedophiles, because the vast majority of psychological information I've had to read about pedophiles points that their preferences is determined either genetically or at some early level of development (like in the womb). They have no choice over the preference, and there is no change that their interest in children is ever going to be considered one of the lowest 'evils' a person could do.

    Through work, I got to know a psychologist who worked in the prison system with pedophiles. He told me that all the therapists can do for them is to teach them to never act on their desire and impulses. There's no real treatment for it. He told me tons of inmates chose castration because it helps control the urges.

    Back when I used to read the Postsecret forums, I remember one topic where this guy in his early 20s was anonymously talking to the other posters about him realizing his attraction to children and wanted help dealing with the thoughts and avoiding ever becoming the sort of person that took advantage of an innocent kid... Incredibly sad stuff.



    Yea it is kind of this. Its hard to think of them as pure evil because the attraction that they face is not "unnatural" at the same time a kid shouldnt be put into the situation of whether or not they should have sex, especially when you get to the lows of 7 8 and 9. I mean, yea so you like having sex with someone who is 17 big whoop, but a 8 year old? Kind of weird with it.
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    The only help for them is to remove the Cock and balls. Cured. Done... It's like trying to turn someone str8 from being gay,,,