Greatest Speech Ever Made?

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    Oct 23, 2011 5:48 AM GMT
    you be the judge. but I, for one, love it. And the video itself, rather moving.

  • kuroshiro

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    Oct 23, 2011 1:28 PM GMT
    Oh Charlie Chapman... what a timid little man you are.

    The speech does relate to how things are now in a sense, which is oddly fascinating given the time that this movie was written. Some things never change.
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    Oct 23, 2011 1:38 PM GMT
    At first I thought switching away from Chaplin and showing video took away from his speech. After seeing it again I realize I simply wasn't ready for it to switch to such startling images. Strange how he said he is being heard by millions and already there is more than one million views.

    The only aspect I do not enjoy is showing the past few US presidents when talking about brutes and dictators only to show Obama on a the positive note. Even if some of those presidents were bad and misguided, they all tried to make the US and the world a better place.

    It is a great speech made better by the video and made even better from the sound. Some great thought went into making it.

    I do think that this video has a message worth hearing.
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    Oct 23, 2011 1:47 PM GMT
    lol. oh look, a Reaper video

    Yawn...
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    Oct 23, 2011 1:53 PM GMT
    It is perhaps more powerful to know that Chaplin is not merely mouthing words given to him by others, as an ordinary actor, but that he wrote himself, and directed, for The Great Dictator, his statement against right-wing Fascism.

    And it was words like these that caused the Republicans in Congress to effectively exile him from the United States following WWII, for being an alleged Socialist and Communist, a victim of the Blacklist purges of Hollywood.

    How funny the way History repeats itself, with today's US right-wingers acting & speaking like they always have. Oppose them and you are a Socialist, as they accused Charlie Chaplin, and now President Obama. And how quickly they try to silence you, while thumping the US Constitution and the Bible.
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    Oct 23, 2011 1:57 PM GMT
    Greatest speech in recent history:

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    Oct 23, 2011 1:57 PM GMT
    It's so easy for everyone in the world to blame "a system that forces men to torture" etc. etc. That "system" isn't a faceless construct that appeared ex nihilo one day and took over the world. Pretending that it is conveniently absolves the listeners... the problem is always "out there".

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    Oct 23, 2011 2:01 PM GMT
    Larkin_PLR saidIt's so easy for everyone in the world to blame "a system that forces men to torture" etc. etc. That "system" isn't a faceless construct that appeared ex nihilo one day and took over the world. Pretending that it is conveniently absolves the listeners... the problem is always "out there".
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    Wouldn't you agree the the reason for speeches like this one is to spread an idealist agenda against these "problems"... A call to action to fight against this human nature, or what have you?

    Whether the enemy has a face or not, the point is to inspire. That it does.

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    Oct 23, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidGreatest speech in recent history:



    Talk about an actor, and a second-rate one at that, mouthing the words of others! An empty facade, like a Hollywood set, already showing the effects of Alzheimer's Disease, speaking the words given to him by the neo-cons around him.

    What brought the Wall down wasn't Reagan's speech, but inevitable failures of the Soviet economic system. I received Top Secret briefings on this in the early 1980s, that predicted the internal collapse that tore down the Berlin Wall (I lived in West Berlin for a number of years). I presume I'm not in violation to reveal this, since it's now general knowledge, in published memoirs by US government insiders.

    Reagan and his advisers received these same briefings, so it was easy to write a brave speech for him, when the outcome was already anticipated. No, Reagan brought down no wall -- the Soviets did it to themselves.
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
    Everybody knows Winston Churchill gave the best speeches ever.
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:25 PM GMT
    MLK speech
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:27 PM GMT
    graniteknighte saidEverybody knows Winston Churchill gave the best speeches ever.


    Somehow I'm quite certain that Art would much prefer Neville Chamberlin.
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:27 PM GMT
    Winston Churchill did give some amazingly inspiring speeches. However, many historians regard Queen Elizabeth's speech at Tilbury to her troops defending England against the Spanish invasion in 1588 as the greatest speech ever made:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38qLFOQFTB4

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Bq1h728X0&feature=related


    or

    http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/elizabeth.htm
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:27 PM GMT
    I agree MeOhMy. Nice speech. Makes you think. We have to keep trying. My cup is always half full, never half empty.
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:28 PM GMT
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    Oct 23, 2011 2:41 PM GMT
    solaguy saidWinston Churchill did give some amazingly inspiring speeches. However, many historians regard Queen Elizabeth's speech at Tilbury to her troops defending England against the Spanish invasion in 1588 as the greatest speech ever made:

    Which may be a myth. No one really knows.
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:00 PM GMT
    Much of the video is out of context with the speech, which, as A_D pointed out, was a plea against the fascism of the Nazis. The Great Dictator is a brilliant and poignant film. I would rather watch that than some ninth grader's attempt at an Oliver Stone cliché.
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
    MeOhMy saidyou be the judge. but I, for one, love it. And the video itself, rather moving.



    Im in the US Air Force, this video you've posted gave me chills and nearly brought me to tears. It makes me want to do...GOOD. A youtube commenter said he listens to this every morning.


    I think Ill do the same. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    PGHiccups saidThe only aspect I do not enjoy is showing the past few US presidents when talking about brutes and dictators only to show Obama on a the positive note. Even if some of those presidents were bad and misguided, they all tried to make the US and the world a better place.


    I would say that's rather naive, and totally wrong. I love that part, precisely because it shows all the presidents, including Barack I'll=bomb-ya exactly as they are: liars, brutes, and tyrants. All these men were absolute war-monger and certainly never tried to "make the world a better place," they just tried to make the US more effectively dominate the world. Just go ask all the countries they tried to "make better." Clinton himself killed over a million innocent people in Iraq, over 500,000 of which were under the age of 12... is that "trying to make the world better?" Bush of course killed over a million in Iraq too, and Obama makes all these other presidents look like doves when it comes to war, as he keeps expanding all the wars and starting new ones, supporting coups, supporting violent oppression, etc.

    They're all monstrous people who have done monstrous things, so I think it is incredibly apt that they are where they are in the video.
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    Oct 23, 2011 4:16 PM GMT
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    MeOhMy saidyou be the judge. but I, for one, love it. And the video itself, rather moving.



    Im in the US Air Force, this video you've posted gave me chills and nearly brought me to tears. It makes me want to do...GOOD. A youtube commenter said he listens to this every morning.


    I think Ill do the same. icon_smile.gif


    I too was touched by this video, however with the exception of the part where he mentions the armed forces. I have many close friends in the service, many who actually love to do their share in defending our country. It made me think of their courage and how this might undermine their efforts. So it is interesting to see your post if a varying thought, but of course I can see how some would be disenchanted.

    I think it's possible to take the good from this speech, but to also still have national pride. Your thoughts?
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    Oct 23, 2011 4:23 PM GMT
    I think national pride is generally dangerous. Group-think is dangerous.


    Take pride in yourself, and bettering your own world.
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
    moniques acceptance speech for precious.
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:34 PM GMT
    Steve Jobs' commencement speech.
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    I personally found it breath taking. That was my first time hearing of the speech. But it sent shivers throughout my body as I listened to his words, especially with how they seemed to be referring to how things are nowadays. It really is astonishing how time repeats itself. Though I believe it's about time that we brea the cycle that we've always taken and go down a new, better path. One where everyone is happy rather than someone having and someone not having something. Oh god, that speech honestly is the greatest speech I have ever heard!
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidIt is perhaps more powerful to know that Chaplin is not merely mouthing words given to him by others, as an ordinary actor, but that he wrote himself, and directed, for The Great Dictator, his statement against right-wing Fascism.

    And it was words like these that caused the Republicans in Congress to effectively exile him from the United States following WWII, for being an alleged Socialist and Communist, a victim of the Blacklist purges of Hollywood.

    How funny the way History repeats itself, with today's US right-wingers acting & speaking like they always have. Oppose them and you are a Socialist, as they accused Charlie Chaplin. And how quickly they try to silence you, while thumping the US Constitution and the Bible.

    At that time, the Republican party was the party of liberals and what you call "left-wing."

    Please learn the correct history.