Gay men and their incredible shrinking

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    Oct 23, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    ages...

    WTF!
    3 years ago I met this guy who was 50 at the time. Just saw he created a profile on RJ two months ago...

    But now he's 45icon_exclaim.gif How the hell did he get 1 year younger than me when 3 years ago he was 7 years oldericon_question.gif

    WTFicon_exclaim.gif
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    When you acquire enough Gay Points (GP), you are given access to the Fountain of Youth. More access for more Gay Points....


    "goodlooking masculine fit guy" Using the word masculine in an online profile is automatically -50 pts

    You also don't have any club hits or classic divas on your profile... that would be an easy point accumulation.



    Truly though, I'd guess men assume that the older they are, the less desireable they are. "Why is he still single at that age? Hmmm... RED ALERT". I don't think this is true at all, gay relationships are hard. We get that! Be HONEST, older men!




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    Oct 23, 2011 3:19 PM GMT
    There is a bizarre stigma about age in the gay community. I think older guys are sexy, and I let that be known when I'm dating an older guy. But the last guy I dated anything like seriously let me believe he was 35 or something when he really was something in the 40 ballpark (still not entirely sure how old he is). Online his profiles all say 32 lol... I make fun of him for being Benjamin Button.
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    LoL I've dated a 53 year old icon_wink.gif. Hot is hot, whatever your age.
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:39 PM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidWhen you acquire enough Gay Points (GP), you are given access to the Fountain of Youth. More access for more Gay Points....

    LMAO! I've told this story before, as a tale for those guys who would pretend they are younger:

    I took this guy home to bed, who claimed he was 43, fully 12 years younger than me. But OK, a trick is a trick, and fucking a guy 43 isn't exactly being a pedophile, or a chicken hawk.

    The next morning, we wake up and he sheepishly confesses he lied -- he was actually 53. I literally cried into my pillow with big sobs, and he got all upset, thinking I was mad at him.

    I told him I was crying for happiness. I had wished he was closer to my age, considering 12 years an obstacle, cause I really, really liked him. I fell asleep wanting him to be 53, and when I woke up, he was! I considered it a miracle, a dream literally come true. No wonder I cried. He had a difficult time believing me, thinking all gay men want the youngest possible.

    Well, maybe some gay guys do, but not all. Every now & then your real age serves you better. Do consider it before you lie to someone.
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    Oct 23, 2011 3:44 PM GMT
    I really hate these threads that give us the 'what' but not the 'who'.
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    Oct 23, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    My ex has a profile here. He took 12 years off his real age.

    Instead of looking great for his age, he looks like a really worn out 48 yr old.
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    Oct 23, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    I've got a guy who helps me with projects. He is only 23, but you wouldn't know it. He's concerned with finding a career that will provide for his retirement. He loves barbar shop quartets. He's a really nice guy, but he is not 23.

    Chronological age?
    Physical age?
    Appearance age?
    Emotional age?
    Intellectual age?
    Spiritual age?

    Depending upon the catagory, we age at different rates.
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    Oct 23, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    theantijock saidI've got a guy who helps me with projects. He is only 23, but you wouldn't know it. He's concerned with finding a career that will provide for his retirement. He loves barbar shop quartets. He's a really nice guy, but he is not 23.

    Chronological age?
    Physical age?
    Appearance age?
    Emotional age?
    Intellectual age?
    Spiritual age?

    Depending upon the catagory, we age at different rates.


    Sorry man, we all age about one year for every year we are alive, and have different personalities and experiences. It's important to be honest with people you meet. I guess saying "100" just begs the question... But it's whether or not an answer is available that counts.
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:03 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    Chronological age?
    Physical age?
    Appearance age?
    Emotional age?
    Intellectual age?
    Spiritual age?

    Depending upon the catagory, we age at different rates.




    Let's see how the other categories work when meeting someone from the internet for coffee and expecting a 34 year old and a 48 year old walks into the shop. We all know what is meant when someone asks your age and it is not your spiritual age. When you are giving your age, we are expecting a number based on your years on this earth. As for emotional age or intellectual age, that is shown in how you live and not by stating a number.
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    Someone's "Emotional Age" and "Spiritual Age" can't be very high if they are struggling to maintain their "Appearance Age" at 25 and their "Physical" and "Chronological age" is 50, but they say it's 30.
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:14 PM GMT
    You get judged for everything. People are insecure. Lies ensue.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
    ::::slaps a few alongside their head::::

    Ouch, watch your teeth, damn it.

    Hey, I'm 54 and I don't give a rat's ass what someone else thinks of that.

    The 100 in my profile is because, um, I don't give a rat's ass. Though I tend to enjoy most guys my age, if someone's looking for me via my age, they're gonna miss me. And, surprise, those are the guys I want to miss me. So not a problem.

    I responded, actually, with a class in mind I took recently in college on aging studies. These are real factors. Pardon me but I thought it would add to the conversation. I didn't just make them up to hide my arthritis, you bitches.

    Larkin_PLR saidSomeone's "Emotional Age" and "Spiritual Age" can't be very high if they are struggling to maintain their "Appearance Age" at 25 and their "Physical" and "Chronological age" is 50, but they say it's 30.


    Edit: I posted before a comment to you having misread "can't" (too many quotes and apostrophe's too closely together apparently confuses me in my old age).

    But yes, and that's partly why I posted what I did. The ages can vary greatly in just one person and so focusing on just one age-aspect not only doesn't tell everything about a person but that truth can be deceptive.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    You can be any age online, photoshop is your friend, you can be anyone online, imagination is your friend.

    The only problem is when you actually want to meet in real life, then it gets annoying to the other party that the person you now want to meet after chatting online for days/weeks/months/years will suddenly say they don't want to meet because they are hiding their real age.

    So my choice is not put my real age, I always put that I'm slightly older (a few days in RJ's case) because I don't like putting my real date of birth into websites in case they get hacked.

    However I also look to meet guys promptly if they are in the area, and not spend months / years chatting, because it soon works out who's not on the level. If your out of area, I'll chat to the cows come home and just assume you are a 90 year old pensioner icon_biggrin.gif



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    Oct 23, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    I thought the mathematical formula for finding one's chronological age was: Take age divide it in half, then add three. The alternate is to simply subtract five or seven years from age. icon_rolleyes.gif

    There has been, and always will be in our youth-centric society, a pervasive need to "cooks the books" so to speak when it comes to age. In my eyes, it's a sign of insecurity. If you have to focus on a number versus other positive characteristics of oneself, pandering to a small sect of people who judge people on age, then that is a problem.

    At the end of the day, your age is what it is. Getting older is a fact of life and no amount of finagling numbers is going to change that. I rather meet men who are proud of their age and don't care what others think because they are not in some preferred age range.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    It's actually my biggest pet peeve. Sure there are those that don't want us "old" guys if we are honest with our age, but are those really the guys you want to attract.

    And those that lie are just adding to the ageism that exists. You say you don't want to be discriminated against for your age, but then you lie about it. If you look decent for your age and can get away with your lie, you actually do all of us a disservice. Why not be proud of who you are...that includes your age?

    I don't like ageism but I have a lot less respect for a liar. I'm 53. Period. No excuses. No lies.
  • dancedancekj

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    Oct 23, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
    I blame society's worship of the youth culture. We put our senior citizens in institutions, portray them as senile, luddites, out of touch, and not worth our time, when we should to an extent be learning from them, and revering them for their wisdom.

    That also being said, there are a lot of useless old people out there. Same as there are lots of useless young people out there, so don't think I'm romanticizing either one necessarily. Racist bigoted grandpa is still a racist bigoted person, no matter his age.

    I always think gay culture is a highly concentrated derivative of the culture at large, and this is no exception. There is a certain insecurity in some gay men I know with reaching the 40 year mark and having a gay midlife crisis. Personally, I would just be relieved to be reaching that point and not have either killed myself or have fucked up too badly, as well as hopefully finding that some of the gay men have started to get their shit together.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA saidages...

    WTF!
    3 years ago I met this guy who was 50 at the time. Just saw he created a profile on RJ two months ago...

    But now he's 45icon_exclaim.gif How the hell did he get 1 year younger than me when 3 years ago he was 7 years oldericon_question.gif

    WTFicon_exclaim.gif

    Did you send him a message and check that it was actually him? Could be a fake profile.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
    Ironman4uSure there are those that don't want us "old" guys if we are honest with our age, but are those really the guys you want to attract.



    Best answer yet. QFT.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    robust-regression.png

    Each gay man: a data point

    X axis: age

    Y axis: anything you want (e.g. intelligence, looks, emotional maturity, net worth... the list is endless)

    Least squares fit: a dumb, but provocative assumption about age (e.g. all young gays are "stupid", all old gays are "creepers")

    Robust regression: a reasonable, but somewhat useless assumption about age (e.g. every year we age a year).

    Real Jock members: outliers all


    And yes, this will be on the midterm.
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    Larkin_PLR saidSomeone's "Emotional Age" and "Spiritual Age" can't be very high if they are struggling to maintain their "Appearance Age" at 25 and their "Physical" and "Chronological age" is 50, but they say it's 30.

    Spot on!
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:40 PM GMT
    iguanaSF saidrobust-regression.png

    Each gay man: a data point

    X axis: age

    Y axis: anything you want (e.g. intelligence, looks, emotional maturity, net worth... the list is endless)

    Least squares fit: a dumb, but provocative assumption about age (e.g. all young gays are "stupid", all old gays are "creepers")

    Robust regression: a reasonable, but somewhat useless assumption about age (e.g. every year we age a year).

    Real Jock members: outliers all


    And yes, this will be on the midterm.


    Did you find the graph to support this, or did you actually make the graph to support your data? Either way I'm impressed.
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    Oct 23, 2011 7:10 PM GMT
    iguanaSF saidrobust-regression.png

    Each gay man: a data point

    X axis: age

    Y axis: anything you want (e.g. intelligence, looks, emotional maturity, net worth... the list is endless)

    Least squares fit: a dumb, but provocative assumption about age (e.g. all young gays are "stupid", all old gays are "creepers")

    Robust regression: a reasonable, but somewhat useless assumption about age (e.g. every year we age a year).

    Real Jock members: outliers all


    And yes, this will be on the midterm.


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    This is the hottest post I have ever seen on RJ.
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    Oct 23, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
    I think a man is like a good wine: he gets better with age.... same for cheese icon_biggrin.gif
  • irishkcguy

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    Oct 23, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Larkin_PLR said[/cite]LoL I've dated a 53 year old icon_wink.gif. Hot is hot, whatever your age.[/quote

    I agree. There's no need to lie about your age. If you meet a guy online and then really hit it off, do you want your relationship to be based on lies? "I've really enjoyed getting to know you and I'd like to move our relationship up to the next level. But I need to let you know that I'm actually 10 years older than I said I was...."