Cure for ringing ears

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    Oct 24, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    Hey guys, I came back from a concert yesterday where I had to endure 4 hours of fangirls screaming. I went to sleep and in the morning I still have a slight ringing in my ears. Is there any immediate fix to this or do I need to wait this out? I'm sure its not anything serious, but it is annoying. Thanks for the help.
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    Oct 24, 2011 7:57 PM GMT
    Don't worry, it'll go away in a day.

    Although if you feel like being slightly freaked out or want some useless/nerdy info: it's not that your ears will heal, but it's that you'll get used to the ringing, such that you'll stop noticing it. The ringing after a concert is your body's way of telling you that music/sound was too loud and your hearing was permanently damaged. Since most people go to concerts or big venue events, everyone gets there hearing damaged.

    People who go to tons of concerts tend to have worse hearing, where that ringing start blocking out the normal things they should hear (ever watched Ozzy on the Osbournes, from couple years ago?).

    Some people are unlucky, where the ringing often comes-and-goes, and where it gets so loud that they can't block it out. That's called Tinnitus. There are no clearly effective treatments.

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    Oct 24, 2011 8:00 PM GMT
    One of my favorite movies taught me this icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:08 PM GMT
    thanks, just needed some reassurance icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    BangitUp saidHey guys, I came back from a concert yesterday where I had to endure 4 hours of fangirls screaming. I went to sleep and in the morning I still have a slight ringing in my ears. Is there any immediate fix to this or do I need to wait this out? I'm sure its not anything serious, but it is annoying. Thanks for the help.

    The medical term for persistent ringing in the ears is tinnitus. It can be caused by exposure to high sound levels, and also from head trauma and disease processes. It's usually not a true ringing, like a series of bell strikes would be, but rather most often perceived as a constant hum or tone.

    I have tinnitus, which constitutes 10% of my VA service-connected disability, due to a series of head traumas and exposure to loud explosions during my Army career. I've learned to live with it, but some people are actually driven to suicide by it.

    If yours does not fade away by itself, it may be permanent, as it is not curable. Avoid loud sound environments. It's worse in quiet environments, such as your bedroom at night. For that reason I have a sound generator that helps to mask it, and I often fall asleep with the TV on, running on a timer. My hearing aids also help to mask it, by keeping ambient sounds elevated.

    Some medications make it worse, like aspirin. A doctor or pharmacist can advise you what to avoid. If you're lucky it will diminish by itself. But do be careful with concerts, and gunshots.
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:20 PM GMT
    A) Don't do that. If you must go (especially for four hours) take some ear plugs. You'll still be able to hear everything in the club, just fine.

    B) The inner ear may recover, with a couple of days of quiet. The sensory hair cells may be tangled and pushed over, like grass after a windstorm. They can slowly stand back up, if not further damaged. I think it took about two weeks for me to recover when I was your age or a bit younger, after going skeet shooting once. (Some of that may have been permanent.)

    C) Keep doing it, and the damage WILL be permanent.


    I've had pretty constant tinnitus for the last year or so, though it comes and goes. The ENT says I still have better hearing than most people, I'm "just getting older." And, "That'll be $300, please. (The eye guy said the same thing icon_mad.gif ) Your brain generates a tone because it's not getting a signal from those nerves, where it expects one.
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
    I can't hear that well right now because of fucking earwax buildup in my ear icon_neutral.gif
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    Oct 24, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    Stan904 saidI can't hear that well right now because of fucking earwax buildup in my ear icon_neutral.gif


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    Oct 24, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
    -Tinnitus has not yet been proven to be a peripheral or central disorder yet. ----- -Really the only type of tinnitus that needs immediate attention (medical) is unilateral.
    -Chronic tinnitus can be masked via noise-masking hearing aids.
    -So far there is no diagnostic tool for tinnitus; working on it though.

    So based on the onset of your tinnitus following a high level of noise exposure:

    There is probably a Temporary Threshold Shift (TTS) or even a Permanent Threshold Shift (PTS). TTS resolves within 72 hours dependent on age, metabolism, medications, etc. PTS does not. The hypothesis model (Patuzzi) I believe for TTS is that high levels of noise traveling through the cochlea over- extend the flexion of the outer hair cells (OHCs). This causes the mechano-electrical channels to shift to one of four kinetic states hindering them inactive. We lose OHCs; we lose the cochlear amplifier = hearing loss. Slowly the ion channels return to their normal transduction state ~72hrs, and we hear normal again.

    Tinnitus is almost always accompanied with a TTS. Still not an explanation of why though? Maybe when we test on live human models we can figure this tinnitus issue out.

    Good luck-some people have tinnitus 24hrs a day. You should protect your earsicon_smile.gif
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    Oct 24, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    You can get cheap ear plugs at drug stores... I always bring them to concerts now. When you can feel your clothes shaking on your body from the sound vibrations, you know it's too loud, lol.
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    Oct 24, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
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    Stan904 saidI can't hear that well right now because of fucking earwax buildup in my ear icon_neutral.gif


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    Oct 24, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    Stan904 saidI can't hear that well right now because of fucking earwax buildup in my ear icon_neutral.gif


    Doesn't happen very often.
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    Oct 24, 2011 10:12 PM GMT
    deltalimen saidGood luck-some people have tinnitus 24hrs a day. You should protect your earsicon_smile.gif

    Yes. And thanks for your apparently well-informed knowledge about this. I merely know what a sufferer experiences and is told, not the clinical understanding.

    I do have it 24/7, it never leaves me. Well, OK, I can deal with it. Sometimes it gets really bad, just howling in my ears. Plus on top of that I get phantom sounds due to my form of epilepsy.

    I most often hear people talking indistinctly in the next room, or sometimes music or a video game playing, but I can't quite make out what it is, like the door is closed. And if I walk into the room, the sounds are now in the next room. Because, of course, they don't really exist, I carry them in my head.

    Naturally I know the cause, and don't panic, or stress, nor do I have conversations with them! LOL! But it is annoying, just something I have to live with. Like the floaters in my eyes from retinal detachment, also due to head trauma, that at times look like insects flying around me. I've had to learn the art of zen-like mediation, otherwise I'd be freaking out every moment. icon_sad.gif

    In any case, I'm not aware of a cure for tinnitus, only tactics for coping with it.
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    Oct 24, 2011 11:14 PM GMT
    i have it too, its gotten bad the last couple of years due to work. At night i hear the constant tone, but i am able to block it out. When my blood pressure rises, i get the crickets chriping. Every couple days i lose all hearing in one ear for 10-15 seconds, while the tone is the only thing i can hear. Its odd but i just cope with it.
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    Oct 24, 2011 11:23 PM GMT
    Its permanent :S
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    Oct 24, 2011 11:25 PM GMT
    mindgarden said


    I've had pretty constant tinnitus for the last year or so, though it comes and goes. The ENT says I still have better hearing than most people, I'm "just getting older." And, "That'll be $300, please. (The eye guy said the same thing icon_mad.gif ) Your brain generates a tone because it's not getting a signal from those nerves, where it expects one.


    Must be in the US... you guys pay WAY too much over there... my ENT doctor said the same to me... cause I never go to a concert or party or club without ear plugs.... but I still have a tinnitus that is annoying as hell when Im in a silent room....
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    Oct 24, 2011 11:26 PM GMT
    I personally have no knowledge of sound therapy cures for tinnitus.. but the internet is full of em....

    http://www.soundtherapyperth.com/benefits/tinnitus.php
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM GMT
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    How original, brah. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidOne of my favorite movies taught me this icon_biggrin.gif
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    fuck shit goddamn i thought i would be the only person who knew this scene icon_mad.gif
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    so yeah, thanks guys for making a mountain out of a molehill. icon_biggrin.gif I'm really sure it's not Tinnitus as this is the 2nd time i've ever gone to a concert. The ringing is barely noticable now that a day's gone by.
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    ThePenIsMyTier saidOne of my favorite movies taught me this icon_biggrin.gif
    [children of men]
    fuck shit goddamn i thought i would be the only person who knew this scene icon_mad.gif



    That is one of a few movies that inspired me to be a Cinematographer icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM GMT
    It's called tinnitus, I haz it... permanently. icon_sad.gif Definitely has gotten better since it first materialized as a ringing, sounds like hissing now when I'm laying in bed or a quiet room. Despite this, my audiologist informs me I have incredible hearing.

    Most common in people who are under the influence of bad diet, high stress or loud noise. Exponentially more when under the influence of all three.
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    Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM GMT
    yes it will go away.

    I have had the same problem but mine gets to be more frequent. The ringing is due to your hairs in your ears being overly stimulated and they can't slow down. Every now and then it is no big deal but if it happens more often then you are actually causing damage to your ear drumbs.

    I have some damage to my ear drumbs and nothing can fix it. Now I still listen to loud music but only on those good songs.

    I actually use Nasonex to help keep my ears and drainage tubes cleared and I don't have problems like I did in the past. That is a Rx I got after seeing a few specialists but it works wonders.

    I just hope you enjoyed the concert.