Decison On Where To Move

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    Oct 24, 2011 11:47 PM GMT
    Hey guys, I think it is time for me to move. I have been in the same state for 30 years, all through school, college, and now my career. So I plan on moving come this Spring.

    I am 30 yo single male in Arkansas working in the accounting industry. Can't quite decide where I want to move, just know I have to get out of here, LOL! I have checked out some of the other topics similar to mine on here and got a couple ideas.

    I like the outdoors and really don't care for snow or cold. I want a place that is relatively safe to live. Needs to have a decent job market, as I will need a way to support myself, LOL! Would also prefer it be racially diverse.

    I am looking for suggestions and input from you guys. Some possible choices I have come across are Austin, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix, maybe Scottsdale. Not really sure, if you guys have experience with these places or can provide some input on other options, I would greatly appreciate it.
  • Suetonius

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    Oct 25, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    Ace123 said

    I like the outdoors and really don't care for snow or cold. I want a place that is relatively safe to live. Needs to have a decent job market . . . Some possible choices I have come across are Austin, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix, maybe Scottsdale.


    None of your listed cities meet your no snow or cold requirement. (They all have winter, if only briefly.) For climate, consider Los Angeles, silicon valley, or San Diego. They all have warmish winters. OTOH, there is very high unemployment in California - but this may not be true of the accounting sector - you would have to check. Los Angles,being so huge, likely has job openings despite the high unemployment situation.They are all gay friendly locations with large gay populations.
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:54 PM GMT
    I have heard good things about San Diego and think that I would enjoy it. However, the fact that California has one of the worst economies and job markets in the country, makes me hesitant to consider it.
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    Why the hell are u considering Texas? Dallas? Really?
    Austin, maybe, but still icon_confused.gif

    Consider Phoenix. It's warm, tho I thought rather ugly. It's like gray and brown everywhere. Not much green.

    San Diego is awesome. Don't let the economy get u down, it's all hype. I kno ppl that have moved from one job to the next without any problems..

    Have u considered Florida?
    Also hot, but has beaches, greenery, etc
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    Import said Don't let the economy get u down, it's all hype.


    The current state of the economy is all hype? icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:33 PM GMT
    The only place to really bypass the cold is South Florida. It's the best place to be if you like water sports as the water stays warm year-round. Austin would be good for outdoor sports but the winters can be cold. I wouldn't move to Dallas if my life depended on it.
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:42 PM GMT
    First city that came to mind was Austin. Small town feel but still a large city. Lots of outdoor activities. Relatively nice weather. Friendly people. College town atmosphere. Job market is good. I love Texas (just hate the politics).
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    malefeet said
    Import said Don't let the economy get u down, it's all hype.


    The current state of the economy is all hype? icon_eek.gif


    Look online dude. There are literally thousands of job openings in every state. Why should this guy not think he wouldn't get one of those?
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    Oct 29, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    BC sounds like the place for you!

    Unless that's too far.
    And too...canadian lol
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    Oct 29, 2011 4:21 PM GMT
    Austin/Dallas/Houston are all nice - but totally different, even though it might appear to all be "Texas" from a distance

    Austin: the most outdoorsy of all. A bit douchey if you are not on the cutting edge of every single hipster trend, and it is very college-towny if you are looking to avoid the 18-21 year old crowd at bars. From my experience it is the "youngest" of all three cities - I love the outdoors/nature possibilities, which require massive drives from the other two cities, or a very short trip from the city center here. Plus - Kerbey Lane gingerbread pancakes will change your life for the better.

    Dallas: the fanciest/nicest/most sophisticated of all three, worth wearing nice clothes everywhere you go, even Equinox (fancy gym.) Best restaurants of all three cities. But neighborhoods are very insular - if you don't live in Oaklawn you are probably not gay enough for the HRC Gala; if you live in the wrong zip code everyone is going to treat you like you are poor. Dallas has the least lack of diversity if you live in a "nice" zip code - but you also said you wanted safety ... and yeah, I had to go there in Dallas, it is still pretty segregated along socioeconomic class lines for a reason.

    Houston: has a little bit of everything, it seems to be the most well-rounded and you just fit in where you want to be. Although it seems to be the "oldest" city by far, it is really hard to find young professionals - but very easy to find sugar daddies if you are into that sort of thing icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
    Import saidConsider Phoenix. It's warm, tho I thought rather ugly. It's like gray and brown everywhere. Not much green.


    OP, i checked ur profile. u don't really provide anything 2 go on as far as interests so it's difficult 2 make any recommendations.

    if u like water activities, the lakes r a short drive from The Valley of the Sun. hiking opps abound. the mtns r also quite near. rappelling/rock climbing areas r less than an hr away. the housing bust decimated r economy, but there r still jobs available in several industries that require accountants. like anywhere, it takes perserverance 2 find them.

    Import, the desert holds her own beauty, and our Sky Islands are magnificent.
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    Oct 29, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    Ace123 saidI have heard good things about San Diego and think that I would enjoy it. However, the fact that California has one of the worst economies and job markets in the country, makes me hesitant to consider it.


    I like Seattle because there is green stuff to look at year round. They do get snow every once in a while. Mostly its drizzle rain. Just have to deal with only rare glimpses of sunlight over the winter months.

    California has a very, very high cost of living. About 6% will be paid in state income taxes and they sill aren't getting enough to pay their bills. Sales tax hovers around 10%, especially around LA. My last apartment was 2bdrm but only 800sq ft. And, that was a condo for sale before the market collapsed.

    Souuthern CA plant life is dead 9 months out of the year. In the springtime, you have "June Gloom" and in the fall, that's when the "Santa Anna" wind patterns set in for almost Arizona-like weather up until around Thanksgiving.

    My sister is a CPA in Houston. She's in high demand especially with the oil and gas industry over there.
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    Oct 29, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    Fortunately, you could even drive to Texas and check out some of the cities and get information. Arizona has my vote as well, but they have some of their own issues. Sounds fun.. I always say, get facts and be thorough, then make your decision!

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    Oct 29, 2011 10:58 PM GMT
    Import saidWhy the hell are u considering Texas? Dallas? Really?
    Austin, maybe, but still icon_confused.gif

    Consider Phoenix. It's warm, tho I thought rather ugly. It's like gray and brown everywhere. Not much green.

    San Diego is awesome. Don't let the economy get u down, it's all hype. I kno ppl that have moved from one job to the next without any problems..

    Have u considered Florida?
    Also hot, but has beaches, greenery, etc


    Never really considered Florida, never really been there or known anyone from there. It seems like during hurricane season, they always get hit, so not to sure I would want to deal with that.
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    Oct 29, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
    Loved Phoenix when I lived there. It does get excruciatingly hot during the summer months, but there is lots to do and enjoy there.
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    Oct 29, 2011 11:13 PM GMT
    I have to make a similar decision. The company I'm interning with wants to hire me permanently for a really really good position (dream job actually), but I'm still a junior and they want me to relocate to California and possibly have to spend months in Japan/korea too. I'm going out there to check it out in a couple of weeks..........scared shitless btw. I hate making decisions, I also hate moving.

    Just pick the place that contrasts most with what you have now. That way you taste the most of life. icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
    I'd plumb for of those American cities that people outside of the US have actually heard of.

    I have American friends (they're alright, actually) and I've been told what goes on in that US world rarely portrayed on the small/silver screen. Scary shit.

    And we slag off "chavs" ... Transpires that they're veritable Stephen Frys compared to your average US hick.

    Fact.

    Doesn't compare. Seriously.
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    Oct 29, 2011 11:18 PM GMT
    Austin,Texas my friend.
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:00 PM GMT
    thirtytwentytwo saidLoved Phoenix when I lived there. It does get excruciatingly hot during the summer months, but there is lots to do and enjoy there.


    I can deal with heat, as that does not bother me. Just love the idea of being able to be outdoors year round!
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:39 PM GMT
    I realize in the first thread you said you don't like cold. If you can have an open mind, Minneapolis has a pretty decent economy and almost all of downtown is surrounded by a skyway system that links downtown together. I work downtown and know many members who never leave the Skyway system for work or grocery shopping.

    What is cool, the housing prices are quite reasonable. People are highly involved in winter sports here, and I've heard our pride parade is 3rd largest in the country. Delta/NW airlines has a huge hub here with many gay employees. They throw a huge block party and match in the parade the next day. We don't so much have a gay area because the whole city is quietly gay.

    I'm from Seattle, land of liberalism and came this direction to have four seasons.but i've only come across a couple places where guys can holds hands at the mall and no one cares. I work with a senior population and often, i'm told "you should meet my friend, I think you would like him" Lmao!!! both places are nice but the child damp on my opinion is worse than snow. Both places are very accepting and out. And I wasn't comfortable with my own sexuality so much when I lived in Seattle.

    I went on a date with a guy two weeks ago to see "Real Steal" and he sat on my lap for most of the movie. I've never done that before but no one cared even when the light came on. Needless to say we are still going on dates and he had helped me care a whole lot less about PDA.

    Summery: maybe consider Seattle or Minneapolis/St Paul. Seattle was good too, but I was out only a few years when I lived there.
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:41 PM GMT
    San Diego is awesome to but i've never lived there. *grins* marine base there
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
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    Import saidWhy the hell are u considering Texas? Dallas? Really?
    Austin, maybe, but still icon_confused.gif

    Consider Phoenix. It's warm, tho I thought rather ugly. It's like gray and brown everywhere. Not much green.

    San Diego is awesome. Don't let the economy get u down, it's all hype. I kno ppl that have moved from one job to the next without any problems..

    Have u considered Florida?
    Also hot, but has beaches, greenery, etc


    Never really considered Florida, never really been there or known anyone from there. It seems like during hurricane season, they always get hit, so not to sure I would want to deal with that.
    Do you have any idea that we actually look FORWARD to hurricanes because of the parties??? icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif


    We havent had one since 05 damnit!icon_cry.gif

    Hurricanes? Just big rainy wind storms.. them tornados you got there in AR are deadly and those you have no idea where or when they hit!icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
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    Never really considered Florida, never really been there or known anyone from there. It seems like during hurricane season, they always get hit, so not to sure I would want to deal with that.


    On the Atlantic coast you're going to get hurricane weather pretty frequently. Maybe not destructive, but during certain times of the year you'll have a few weeks ruined by heavy rain and wind. (Also, the gay environment of Miami vs. Ft Lauderdale vs. the Keys etc is very different. Different age groups, different scenes, different ethnic groupings etc.)

    The Gulf side though rarely will get a direct hurricane hit. Hurricanes tend to either go up the Atlantic coast or veer off westward toward Louisiana and Texas. The Florida landmass acts like a wedge that directs hurricanes to either side so if you live in, like, Tampa (which is really nice IMO and still only like an hour or two from Orlando and Miami) you'll rarely get a hurricane hit. I've lived in Tallahassee a long time and have never experienced a hurricane.
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    Oct 31, 2011 2:05 AM GMT
    MSPadventure saidI realize in the first thread you said you don't like cold. If you can have an open mind, Minneapolis has a pretty decent economy and almost all of downtown is surrounded by a skyway system that links downtown together. I work downtown and know many members who never leave the Skyway system for work or grocery shopping.

    What is cool, the housing prices are quite reasonable. People are highly involved in winter sports here, and I've heard our pride parade is 3rd largest in the country. Delta/NW airlines has a huge hub here with many gay employees. They throw a huge block party and match in the parade the next day. We don't so much have a gay area because the whole city is quietly gay.

    I'm from Seattle, land of liberalism and came this direction to have four seasons.but i've only come across a couple places where guys can holds hands at the mall and no one cares. I work with a senior population and often, i'm told "you should meet my friend, I think you would like him" Lmao!!! both places are nice but the child damp on my opinion is worse than snow. Both places are very accepting and out. And I wasn't comfortable with my own sexuality so much when I lived in Seattle.

    I went on a date with a guy two weeks ago to see "Real Steal" and he sat on my lap for most of the movie. I've never done that before but no one cared even when the light came on. Needless to say we are still going on dates and he had helped me care a whole lot less about PDA.

    Summery: maybe consider Seattle or Minneapolis/St Paul. Seattle was good too, but I was out only a few years when I lived there.


    Never really considered those place. Though I guess they would work. My reason for disliking snow is that here in Arkansas, you have to drive in it to get anywhere, like work or store, and people are morons here. So I guess if it was a big city where subways and such were underground that it might work.
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    Oct 31, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    I would try Arizona...Utah is pretty good too, if you can find a job in California than by all means do so, just have to broaden your search in all of these states not just the major areas..

    I would move back to CA if i could icon_sad.gif