Dubstep Haters and Wankers

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    Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    Does anyone else think Dubstep sounds like robot's farting and shitting there pants?

    I think its destroying electronic music all together or you can argue with me that it isnt

    Thoughts?

    Edit: Probably should have said music all together
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:32 AM GMT
    Most dubstep seems like a gimmick, or really boring. Just loud aggressive beats accompanied by premature ejaculation (drops), which leave the rest of the song to dwindle away and lack any excitement. I don't mind Skrillex though, probably because he isn't really pure dubstep, he adds elements from different genres.
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    Oct 25, 2011 5:30 AM GMT
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    I'm over it. It's kind of cool here and there if done right... but now every asshole is jumping in like the Pop-Punk/Screaming rage days. Leave it to the good ones... fuck most of them.
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    Oct 25, 2011 1:19 PM GMT
    “The things that drew me to dubstep in the first place weren't necessarily the kind of testosterone-driven environments that you got from say, late jungle or some of the drum 'n' bass stuff that was happening after that.

    I think the dubstep that has come over to the US, and certain producers — who I can't even be bothered naming — have definitely hit upon a sort of frat-boy market where there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel.

    And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started. It's a million miles away from the ethos of it. It's been influenced so much by electro and rave, into who can make the dirtiest, filthiest bass sound, almost like a pissing competition, and that's not really necessary.

    And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women. I find that whole side of things to be pretty frustrating, because that is a direct misrepresentation of the sound as far as I'm concerned."

    ( - James Blake)

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    Oct 25, 2011 1:25 PM GMT
    Agree with Trevor, I like Ephixa and Skrillex, but a lot of the rest is garbage.

    Plus Ephixa has an entire genre called Zeldastep, which is dubstep remixes of Zelda songs. SO MUCH WIN!
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    Oct 25, 2011 1:28 PM GMT
    Dubstep is not my thing.

    Give me some good electronic music like daft punk, justice, deadmau5, or armin van buren. Or even "bad" (but o so good) electronic music that's fun to dance to like sandstorm by darude, Barbara striesand by duck sauce or Erik prydez's call on me.

    The only dustep that's decent is skrillex and pendulum. But still..... It's like dustep tries too hard lol.

    Edit: just looked it up and pendulum isn't dubstep. But whatever I have like 2 of their songs so its not like I'm a big fan. Same goes for skrillex, only have like 2 songs.
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    Oct 25, 2011 1:31 PM GMT
    Once upon a time there was music so awful, so terrible, so irritatingly bad that only mouthbreathers and Fox News watchers and homos with no redeeming qualities listened to it.

    Along one day came an enterprising market researcher who said "We can make money off this if we call it something! You know, start a trend!"

    After a focus group randomly chose and combined two words, "dubstep" was engineered

    A few street teams and Twitter hashtags later, it became a thing.

    The end.

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    Oct 25, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
    wolverinecub86 saidDubstep is not my thing.

    Give me some good electronic music like daft punk, justice, deadmau5, or armin van buren. Or even "bad" (but o so good) electronic music that's fun to dance to like sandstorm by darude, Barbara striesand by duck sauce or Erik prydez's call on me.

    The only dustep that's decent is skrillex and pendulum. But still..... It's like dustep tries too hard lol.

    Edit: just looked it up and pendulum isn't dubstep. But whatever I have like 2 of their songs so its not like I'm a big fan. Same goes for skrillex, only have like 2 songs.


    Even Skrillex is not quite Dubstep, it's a derived genre, I think they call it Drumstep since it's closer to "drum'n'bass" than actual dubstep.

    I love Skrillex though, and kinda like his new protégé, Porter Robinson.
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    Oct 25, 2011 2:03 PM GMT
    Skrillex is remixing the doors for a film called re:generation. Should b interesting.... I love the doors so I hope he does them justice.

    Check out the preview. Also the crystal method (whom I like much better than skrillex anyway) is also in the film.
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    Oct 25, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
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    KardioKing saidAgree with Trevor, I like Ephixa and Skrillex, but a lot of the rest is garbage.

    Plus Ephixa has an entire genre called Zeldastep, which is dubstep remixes of Zelda songs. SO MUCH WIN!


    Thats part of the problem, making more derivative genres.


    Making more derivative genres is not the problem, I think that's what music construction is about.

    The problem resides more in making more derivative genres and STILL calling it dubstep.
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    Oct 25, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
    errr .... skrillex isn't even proper dubstep, it's some light and fluffy elektro-shiz with zappy elektro sounds half the time.

    Like any genre of music, there's the good and the bad, and when it gets commercial enough that people can make money releasing lots and lots of it (most of which WILL be crap), you end up with the situation we're in. Just look at what happened to DnB in the early-mid 00s, none of the evolutionary leaps which the 90s had - it had stagnated.

    To me, dubstep, when it's good is really good, but you need an amazing set list and really good mixing to pull it off, it gets droney too fast if any single track is allowed to play for any length of time. But when it's bad, or badly done, I like to call it "the down-syndromed incest-love child of DnB and Garage" - intellectually-stunted, clangy, white-trash DnB basslines from the Cause4Concern/BadCo days circa 2004/5 with simple Garage-style breaks at half DnB speed which go nowhere and haven't enough complexity to really 'drop' after the rinses.

    But when it's good, it's serpentine, industrial, twisted, manic, and dark interspersed with bouncy, impossible, violent walls of sound reminiscent of the halcyon days of dark DnB, combining all of Dilinja, Digital, Calyx and the late 90s V recordings and Renegade Hardware stuff. Problem is it's just too hard to find consistency with it when you're going out and listening to it at gigs.

    (I also suspect we're not on the right drugs for dubstep) :-)
  • a303guy

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    Oct 25, 2011 2:42 PM GMT
    Yup, robots farting is a pretty good approximation of what dub step sounds like to me.

    When i go to raves (yes, i do go to raves) what i find is that the dubstep, and to a slightly lesser extent, drum & bass performances attract a more hostile/angry group of people, which is totally contrary to what the whole electronic music scene is about.

    I suppose it all boils down to what sells tickets, and promoters of massives, especially, are gonna cave to that, rather than to what actually sounds good and promulgates a more (gasp) 'traditional' trance/dance crowd, which does seem to be dwindling slightly here in the Denver area.

    I myself, mostly because of the hostile crowd that goes to the massives lately, am probably pretty much done with the scene, and will stay mostly with smaller events, and downloading progressive/epic trance off podomatic.
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    Oct 25, 2011 2:49 PM GMT
    There is some good Dubstep out there, although I agree there is also a lot of bad like any other genre. I can watch a good Dubstep dancer all day though.
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
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    icon_question.gif This video relates to Dubstep how? icon_question.gif
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    I have no idea, but apparently it's supposed to be according to critics 0.o
    It's nice imo though icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    Love Avicii - but yeah, def not dubstep. which is fine!
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    brokenbeats saiderrr .... skrillex isn't even proper dubstep, it's some light and fluffy elektro-shiz with zappy elektro sounds half the time.

    Like any genre of music, there's the good and the bad, and when it gets commercial enough that people can make money releasing lots and lots of it (most of which WILL be crap), you end up with the situation we're in. Just look at what happened to DnB in the early-mid 00s, none of the evolutionary leaps which the 90s had - it had stagnated.

    To me, dubstep, when it's good is really good, but you need an amazing set list and really good mixing to pull it off, it gets droney too fast if any single track is allowed to play for any length of time. But when it's bad, or badly done, I like to call it "the down-syndromed incest-love child of DnB and Garage" - intellectually-stunted, clangy, white-trash DnB basslines from the Cause4Concern/BadCo days circa 2004/5 with simple Garage-style breaks at half DnB speed which go nowhere and haven't enough complexity to really 'drop' after the rinses.

    But when it's good, it's serpentine, industrial, twisted, manic, and dark interspersed with bouncy, impossible, violent walls of sound reminiscent of the halcyon days of dark DnB, combining all of Dilinja, Digital, Calyx and the late 90s V recordings and Renegade Hardware stuff. Problem is it's just too hard to find consistency with it when you're going out and listening to it at gigs.

    (I also suspect we're not on the right drugs for dubstep) :-)


    Your definitely the closest so far man. I dont see how people enjoy skrillex. They are not even the slightest talented. They just lay drowned out reverb over the chorus of a song to sound new, but they do little to the original track. There doing nothing to the music scene right now except killing it. Sucks that Garage and DnB were ahead of there time because they definitely would have killed it with the hipster scene. 1000xs better then any recent song coming out of the dub step movement right now. I dont know if its consistency thats destroying it for me man. Been to a lot of gigs and all the drops are the same, nothing is inventive or new.
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    (progressive) House is the best duh
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    wolverinecub86 said(progressive) House is the best duh


    More a hip hop and RnB guy here man. Just love all music and you definitely cant go wrong with a progressive house playlist at the gym to get your ass going
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:42 PM GMT


    This dude is amazing.
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:43 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said

    This dude is amazing.


    The dude dancing yes, the song trash; had to watch it on mute. Sorry but not sorry
  • dancedancekj

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    Oct 25, 2011 3:47 PM GMT
    I like dancing like this to dubstep



    It has some very interesting buildups that create a lot of musical tension for some fantastic potential for artistry in the dance form....
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    Oct 25, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    dancedancekj saidI like dancing like this to dubstep



    It has some very interesting buildups that create a lot of musical tension for some fantastic potential for artistry in the dance form....


    True man it does have some great buildups but once you hit the crecendo of reverb that goes on for 1min you cant dance to that man. I can deal with some light dub like this song.

    P.S. She fucking killed it on this song
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    Oct 26, 2011 2:01 AM GMT
    mandoo11 said True man it does have some great buildups but once you hit the crecendo of reverb that goes on for 1min you cant dance to that man. I can deal with some light dub like this song.


    Agreed. The songs either light on dub step or the remixes of popular songs with dubstep-esque elements are the ones that I really like. Just as with true electronic and techno, the raw form of dubstep is usually too amorphous and lacking phrase to dance to.

    mandoo11 saidP.S. She fucking killed it on this song

    inorite?!!