What Will It Take for Americans to Help Iranians?

  • metta

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    Oct 25, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    What Will It Take for Americans to Help Iranians?

    http://www.advocate.com/Politics/Commentary/Oped_What_Will_It_Take_for_Americans_to_Help_Iranians/
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    Oct 25, 2011 4:04 PM GMT
    Help them how? Help them with what? For how long?

    Don't you think we've helped enough?
  • metta

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    Oct 25, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    Honestly, I think that this becomes more complicated because of our relationship with Iran is not a healthy one. Will Iran listen to us? Doubtful. Any pressure would be better applied by the people of Iran and Iran's allies. That does not mean we should do nothing. We should do what we can and encourage Iran's allies (that we have better relationships with???) to put the pressure on Iran. Using the United Nations for this purpose may also be somewhat helpful.

    Do you think an online campaign may be helpful? They would need to be easily accessible in Iran and in Iranian languages.


    U.S. discusses new Iran sanctions with EU allies
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/uk-iran-sanctions-cohen-idUKTRE79N7CG20111024

    We should be able to do the same for this as well.
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    Oct 25, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
    metta8 saidHonestly, I think that this becomes more complicated because of our relationship with Iran is not a healthy one. Will Iran listen to us? Doubtful. Any pressure would be better applied by the people of Iran and Iran's allies. That does not mean we should do nothing. We should do what we can and encourage Iran's allies (that we have better relationships with???) to put the pressure on Iran. Using the United Nations for this purpose may also be somewhat helpful.

    Do you think an online campaign may be helpful? They would need to be easily accessible in Iran and in Iranian languages.


    U.S. discusses new Iran sanctions with EU allies
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/uk-iran-sanctions-cohen-idUKTRE79N7CG20111024

    We should be able to do the same for this as well.

    In my opinion, working with Iranian émigré groups would be necessary. If the intent was to focus on LGBT issues, might need to do further research to see if that is or could be addressed by any of the existing groups.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_American#External_links
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    Oct 25, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    I hate to say it, but unless we can make a difference through resolutions and sanctions against Iran through the U.N., then we need to just stay out of the issues that exist in other countries, just as we prefer (actually demand) that other countries stay out of our business. We can't be the world police. We have plenty of problems right here at home.
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    Oct 25, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
    We need so much help ourselves I can't figure out why we're worried about helping everyone else.
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    Oct 25, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    metta8 saidWhat Will It Take for Americans to Help Iranians?
    It will take the same treatment happening to them.
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    Oct 25, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    What it'd take is for the world to stop picking and choosing when they want western intervention...
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    Oct 26, 2011 1:24 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI hate to say it, but unless we can make a difference through resolutions and sanctions against Iran through the U.N., then we need to just stay out of the issues that exist in other countries, just as we prefer (actually demand) that other countries stay out of our business. We can't be the world police. We have plenty of problems right here at home.

    mocktwinkie saidWe need so much help ourselves I can't figure out why we're worried about helping everyone else.

    If I am not for myself, who will be?
    But if I am only for myself, what am I?
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    Oct 26, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    "We need so much help ourselves I can't figure out why we're worried about helping everyone else. "


    More selfish words have never been spoken.

    There is a special place in Hell for people who live by such words.


    I have nothing but contempt for such people. The world would be a much better place if people like that were stripped of their advantages.


    Or maybe if they were made to study the Sermon on the Mount.


    I wonder what mental defect they suffer that makes them so selfish and lacking in empathy.

    Perhaps dropped on their head, or toxins in utero. icon_confused.gif



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    Oct 26, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI hate to say it, but unless we can make a difference through resolutions and sanctions against Iran through the U.N., then we need to just stay out of the issues that exist in other countries, just as we prefer (actually demand) that other countries stay out of our business. We can't be the world police. We have plenty of problems right here at home.

    mocktwinkie saidWe need so much help ourselves I can't figure out why we're worried about helping everyone else.

    If I am not for myself, who will be?
    But if I am only for myself, what am I?


    That's not the point, it's about taking care of your own family before taking care of another.

    You don't take care of the children of someone else before your own.