This will probably get me banned but can we talk about orientation-change for 1 minute without everyone losing it?

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    Oct 26, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
    I want to start off by apologizing if even the notion offends anyone because I know how much gay people have gone through.

    Would we be able to discuss the issue of orientation-change without everyone being offended? I realise the vast majority of people think it is impossible but I believe it is possible.

    I mean orientation change inspired not by people's hate or labeling of homosexuality as 'evil or sin' which it obviously is not but by someone's deep feeling that they were meant to be straight. ie. the same way that transgenders feel they were born the wrong gender, can someone be born an orientation not in line with their inner self?

    I know I'm walking a fine line so mods if I'm out of line please remove this thread.
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    Oct 26, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    This is a very fair and open discussion.

    The APA has spoken on this issue multiple times and they have reached the conclusion that not only is changing your sexual orientation impossible (as it is mental thinking and not a physical body) but doing so can be more damaging than helping someone accept themselves for who they are.

    I know what you are feeling. Their was a time that I thought I meant to be straight, that I was supposed to be, and that I wanted to be straight. It damaged me, that line of thinking, in terms of living the traditional lifestyle that my parents want and the one that gets spoon fed to me from the gay lifestyle, and I think many minorities struggle with this (Do I do things the american way or my traditional way?). What I can tell you, TommyBoi (if you are not a troll) is that life does in deed get better than what it is. You are not destined to be some pansy gay femboi and that masculinity or how you identify as a person does not play a difference into who you want to stick your dick in (or get stuck with a dick, whatever floats your boat.)

    When I was struggling with coming out of the closet, it was because I didnt feel like a gay man, then I realized that being gay simply meant I was emotionally and physically attracted to other men, not that I had to wear a pink tutu and prance around all day long.

    Give it time, you will learn to accept yourself when you are ready.
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    Oct 26, 2011 10:37 PM GMT
    Oh boy here were go.. ;)

    I fully accept that the majority of science (if not all) does not believe it is possible. And I am not talking about suppressing an attraction to men and pretending to be into women so that society/family can be happy.

    I truly feel that I became straight through meditation. I'm going to laugh along with you guys who think I am a cook. I'll even agree that there is a good chance that I am lol as long as you accept the fact that maybe, just maybe there is a 0.00001% chance this is possible in the crazy world of our that we do not fully understand.

    Again, I am pro-gay and do not think there is anything wrong with it, but I have to be honest with myself and you guys in stating that I believe a small percentage may be born the wrong orientation (i.e. not in line with their inner self) and can take steps, in my opinion which I acknowledge may be wrong, to change their orientation.

    I expect a lot of hate and almost feel like I deserve it because my opinion can come off as very offensive. Please realise I am not aiming this at the millions of gay men leading happy lives, only the tiny percentage who feel- rightly of wrongly, that their orientation doesn't match their inner self.

    I have created a space for people interested in the topic to discuss it freely at
    gayconversionforum.com - as previous attempts to discuss this issue in gay forums has led to a lot of hate.
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    Oct 26, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    I think its possible because Ive heard of it happening after a stroke.. in either direction (straight to gay, and gay to straight).. but for that exact reason I think its not a good idea... its brain damage!!!
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    Oct 26, 2011 10:41 PM GMT
    TommyBoi3 saidOh boy here were go.. ;)

    I fully accept that the majority of science (if not all) does not believe it is possible. And I am not talking about suppressing an attraction to men and pretending to be into women so that society/family can be happy.

    I truly feel that I became straight through meditation. I'm going to laugh along with you guys who think I am a cook. I'll even agree that there is a good chance that I am lol as long as you accept the fact that maybe, just maybe there is a 0.00001% chance this is possible in the crazy world of our that we do not fully understand.

    Again, I am pro-gay and do not think there is anything wrong with it, but I have to be honest with myself and you guys in stating that I believe a small percentage may be born the wrong orientation (i.e. not in line with their inner self) and can take steps, in my opinion which I acknowledge may be wrong, to change their orientation.

    I expect a lot of hate and almost feel like I deserve it because my opinion can come off as very offensive. Please realise I am not aiming this at the millions of gay men leading happy lives, only the tiny percentage who feel- rightly of wrongly, that their orientation doesn't match their inner self.

    I have created a space for people interested in the topic to discuss it freely at
    gayconversionforum.com - as previous attempts to discuss this issue in gay forums has led to a lot of hate.


    Thats the thing dude, orientation in itself is within. So their inner self doesnt match their inner self? Something has got to give.

    As for your change, while I accept that it is theoretically possible to change your orientation, meditation will not do it. You were either curious (and straight) or are in denial now. Enjoy it.
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    Oct 26, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
    The only way to change your orientation is to lie.
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    Oct 26, 2011 11:22 PM GMT
    TommyBoi,

    If you want permission to explore your sexuality, your possible HETEROSEXUALITY........most of us here would encourage you to explore.

    Just do it Safely....and Repectfully .

    Do you plan on revealing any gay sex or relationships to a prospective girlfriend?