"Gays get bashed b/c we BACK DOWN"

  • ChilaxinJOCK0...

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    Oct 28, 2011 6:48 AM GMT
    After a homophobic castmate on the Real World San Diego told his lesbian cast member, Sam McGinn, that he would "beat the gay out of her" and refused to go to a big party in a lesbian bar that she got them free VIP for, one of her friends told her to calm down, back down, and be the positive one in the situation. Two of the roomates have been very homophobic all season and refuse to "accept" their castmate's sexuality. Her reply was simply AWESOME :

    "But that’s why we get bashed so hard. It’s because we back down, and I’m not going to back down. I’ve backed down too many times. I’m here for a reason, and I’m going to show that reason. I’m gay, and I love it. I’m proud to be gay, and I will stand for every f--king right I have."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/real-world-san-diego-gay-comment-zach-_n_1035351.html

    sounds corny, but watching her cry as she made that statement to her roomate really gave my goosebumps and moved me a lot. Wish more people on TV were as smart and strong.


    http://www.afterellen.com/tv/real-world-san-diego-recap-episode-5

    the article above gives some background to the homophobia occuring this season. It stuns me to see this on the Real World in 2011! Its like these two cast members shouldve been on the show in 1994
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    Oct 28, 2011 6:57 AM GMT
    love it man!
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    Oct 28, 2011 7:22 AM GMT
    Zach- how can someone so cute be such a cunt?

    Hope he falls over the edge and breaks his legs and his pretty little face
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    Oct 28, 2011 7:31 AM GMT
    Lostboy saidZach- how can someone so cute be such a cunt?

    Hope he falls over the edge and breaks his legs and his pretty little face


    its crazy, b/c before this episode I was drooling over him. And honest to god, after this episode I dont find him hot anymore. He ruined it
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    Oct 28, 2011 11:37 AM GMT
    Oh, come on!

    He said something to get a reaction. It was very specifically targeted at her, and not gays everywhere. He wanted to make HER mad, so he said something out of character to get her worked up. Yes, there happened to be cameras.


    Relax.

    You know, I may be nearly alone in this... But I think it is wrong to have a full deck of "gay cards" in your pocket. She should've argued like a man and not played victim. Give it a rest, gays, don't reach for the gay card whenever you see fit. Even if he was being petty, don't stoop down to his level and hide behind labels.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:32 PM GMT
    Good for her.

    Zach can't give any good advice whatsoever. Just because someone is bigger than you doesn't mean you can't take them down. I've seen people like him with that exact mindset get put down in the worst of ways.

    I saw a 5'6" guy beat the hell out of a 6'4" guy. Both were well built. The tall guy had an ego and assumed that because the short guy wouldn't do anything and because he was taller and merely "looked" stronger then the shorter guy that he had it all won. WRONG. The short guy gave him a gut punch then tripped him. Once on the ground, the short guy pounced on him and WIPED THAT ASS.

    I would say never start a fight unless you plan on winning it or rather you know you can win it. Fuck Zach. He's like the poster boy for a closet case anyway and is so ignorant it's scary. His personality and attitude makes him unattractive instantly. He's one of those guys who should just be seen and not heard.

    I had a few friends discussing this at work so I asked them how they felt about it. The majority of my friends in the discussion are straight. Both males and females. They all said that being on the show is a privilege and getting to experience all the cool stuff is a dream. Why not take full advantage of that fact and live it up tot he fullest? They all said they would've just gone to the party simply for the perks and because it would be an experience. One male co-worker said "If you're secure about who you are then there's nothing to be worried about at a Pride Parade." You can't argue with that kind of logic. Another male friend/co-worker says "Nothing would ever happen between me and another guy sexually but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate that someone thinks I'm hot plus I might meet a chick since straight chicks love gay parades.

    I halfway see the logic in that second comment and it made me laugh. I just told him to make sure that the chick he picks up at a gay parade doesn't have a tool like him or at least not one bigger than him. LOL.

    We all laughed.

    Anyways. Zach's an idiot and Sam is inspirational.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:40 PM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidOh, come on!

    He said something to get a reaction. It was very specifically targeted at her, and not gays everywhere. He wanted to make HER mad, so he said something out of character to get her worked up. Yes, there happened to be cameras.


    Relax.

    You know, I may be nearly alone in this... But I think it is wrong to have a full deck of "gay cards" in your pocket. She should've argued like a man and not played victim. Give it a rest, gays, don't reach for the gay card whenever you see fit. Even if he was being petty, don't stoop down to his level and hide behind labels.


    Thought about this alot, now that I am coming out. Not sure how I'll react to open hostility toward me. I know it gets to me every time I hear gay bashing these days. On the one hand, life is too short to let other people's poison take you out. At the same time, still have some anger over the forces that influenced me to stay hidden for so long.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:44 PM GMT
    Ugh, Bros are always the most homphobic... it touches a nerve a bit too close to home, I'd say...
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
    Ok seriously... ALSO IT'S A WOMAN. "Don't pick a fight with somebody 4 times your size."

    DON'T PICK A FIGHT WITH A WOMAN HALF YOUR SIZE.

    He must haz small weener.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:50 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidOnce on the ground, the short guy pounced on him and WIPED THAT ASS.

    Are you sure you don't mean "WHIPPED THAT ASS"? Or maybe not... icon_wink.gif

    Seriously, I'm a bit encouraged by the attitudes of your friends & co-workers. Maybe we really will see favorable political changes regarding gay civil rights some day... I hope I live to see it.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:51 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI think she should take accountability for her behavior. She's a little runt with a Napoleon complex threatening to take away something from a man several times her size. I think he was inflamed to the point of responding/reacting poorly. He was provoked and although his behavior is not justified he probably would not have said that if she hadn't made her threat first etc


    By the same token calling someone a nigger in an argument is not racist.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:52 PM GMT
    I've been saying this for years, we just need to an example out of some of the homophobes. If we keep coming off like a bunch of soft fairys it just makes us a easy target. Bully's love an easy target, not one that wants to punch em in the face. That and I notice most of the homophobes are usually twinky and fat guys... Come on its a easy winicon_smile.gif
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:53 PM GMT
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    ThePenIsMyTier saidOh, come on!

    He said something to get a reaction. It was very specifically targeted at her, and not gays everywhere. He wanted to make HER mad, so he said something out of character to get her worked up. Yes, there happened to be cameras.


    Relax.

    You know, I may be nearly alone in this... But I think it is wrong to have a full deck of "gay cards" in your pocket. She should've argued like a man and not played victim. Give it a rest, gays, don't reach for the gay card whenever you see fit. Even if he was being petty, don't stoop down to his level and hide behind labels.


    Thought about this alot, now that I am coming out. Not sure how I'll react to open hostility toward me. I know it gets to me every time I hear gay bashing these days. On the one hand, life is too short to let other people's poison take you out. At the same time, still have some anger over the forces that influenced me to stay hidden for so long.


    Are the forces that urged you to hide so long not the exact same forces that urge certain people to hate? Social stigma and tradition... religion... gender roles... etc. There's pressure to fulfill expectation in this world and it can be hard to overcome. Haters are weak. Pity them.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:56 PM GMT
    Jeandeau saidUgh, Bros are always the most homphobic... it touches a nerve a bit too close to homo, I'd say...


    There corrected it for you.
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    Oct 28, 2011 12:56 PM GMT
    off topic but I find her strangely hot..............icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 28, 2011 1:00 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI think she should take accountability for her behavior. She's a little runt with a Napoleon complex threatening to take away something from a man several times her size. I think he was inflamed to the point of responding/reacting poorly. He was provoked and although his behavior is not justified he probably would not have said that if she hadn't made her threat first etc


    By the same token calling someone a nigger in an argument is not racist.


    Not exactly. By his same reasoning someone can use the word "nigger" in a heated argument and not BE a racist. Provoke someone, they're gonna stab back! He was aiming to upset her. Cry about it,one draws attention to themself, ending the argument and victimizing a whole group. Yay! He got what he wanted!
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    Oct 28, 2011 1:05 PM GMT
    I'm gonna leave one last message before I bow out of this thread. I can see it eventually making my blood boil.


    I am sick of minor inconveniences drawing so much attention. Hatred DOES exist. People do HORRIBLE things. This isn't one of them.

    If gays keep crying wolf, they're not going to like it when nobody shows up when it matters..
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    Oct 28, 2011 1:07 PM GMT
    Against that: if we accept small tokens of hatred, we will be powerless to resist the big ones.


    Doesn´t mean being humorless, but it does mean calling certain behaviours out of court: such this reference to gay bashing in the light of all the recent suicides.

    Not acceptable.
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    Oct 28, 2011 1:18 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidAgainst that: if we accept small tokens of hatred, we will be powerless to resist the big ones.


    Doesn´t mean being humorless, but it does mean calling certain behaviours out of court: such this reference to gay bashing in the light of all the recent suicides.

    Not acceptable.


    Okay, choose to view it as a token of hatred. I, for one, will not be a victim. The problem is in the haters mind, in cases where there are haters. If it leaves their mind and manifests physically, or the person is not strong enough to handle it... Something must be done. This was an argument, with silly name-calling. She is an adult, she saw consequences of her actions in the form of targeted remarks. Petty, thoughtless, lowly remarks.

    By giving attention to these types of people, it feeds their egos. We make the world look like such a negative place, when, really - the opposite is true. NEVER has there been such an open-minded population in this country! WE are making strides every day. Here we are, singling out some stupid fight on some stupid reality show and moping around... People can be ignorant, so be rubber to their glue and bounce it back, IGNORE THEM.
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    Oct 28, 2011 2:24 PM GMT
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    Oct 28, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    zach is dumb. He lotions his face and goes and gets his eyebrows waxed, but makes fun of frank for crying, saying men shouldn't cry. Can't wait to see what happens next week when frank gets some action hahah. zach is gunna love it.
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    Oct 28, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
    People still watch this show? Really? icon_confused.gif

    Anyway, it's troubling that in 2011 people are still this close-minded. Zach (that's the homophobe's name, right?) sounds like a closet-case.
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    Oct 28, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
    Jeandeau said

    He must haz small weener.



    HAHAHAHA.... love it!
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    Oct 28, 2011 3:11 PM GMT
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    Guy101 saidOnce on the ground, the short guy pounced on him and WIPED THAT ASS.

    Are you sure you don't mean "WHIPPED THAT ASS"? Or maybe not... icon_wink.gif

    Seriously, I'm a bit encouraged by the attitudes of your friends & co-workers. Maybe we really will see favorable political changes regarding gay civil rights some day... I hope I live to see it.


    Yes. I meant "Whipped"....typos and all. Thank you for catching it for me. I laughed after I reread it. LOL.

    My friends and co-workers are very diverse in thought and age. We click well because we have simple approaches to things like this.
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    Oct 28, 2011 3:20 PM GMT


    I've been jumped twice and both times I defended myself. I wasn't scared; I was pissed off. No one fucks w/ me and gets away it.