"I see no need for union representation, we are being treated fairly here."

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    Oct 28, 2011 3:24 PM GMT
    http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/10/uaw-not-welcome-in-the-south/

    UAW Not Welcome In The South

    “I see no need for union representation,” says Adrian Leslie, line worker at Volkswagen’s Chattanooga plant. “We are being treated fairly here.”

    If it would be him alone to decide, then any plans of the UAW to unionize Volkswagen Chattanooga are doomed. Leslie is not alone in his opinion, and the plans are doomed.

    Leslie had given up a 7 ½ year job at a distribution company in Chattanooga, because “the job I had before was considered a job, but I was actually looking for was a career.” He is 1 ½ year into his career at Volkswagen and thinks that “the working conditions here are excellent. This company is going a long way.”

    Colleague Kristy Hill, who is fitting suspensions of the new Passat with Leslie, would be a tough target for union organizers: ”I haven’t heard a lot about the unions, I’d have to make a lot of research before I would make a decision,” says the resolute lady who held part time jobs before she was hired by Volkswagen 1 ½ years ago. “I love it,” Ms. Hill says. “This is it – this will be my last job.”

    The two, randomly interviewed at our visit to Volkswagen’s Chattanooga plant, echo the sentiment at the bright, airy and clean Volkswagen plant in a wooded valley in the outskirts of Chattanooga. When the two signed on 1 ½ years ago, they were paid $14.50 per hour, even during training. Now they are on their way to $19.50 per hour. A Detroit tier two UAW worker makes $15.50 per hour at Ford. After the labor deal with the UAW, the tier two wage will rise to $19.28, the same as at GM.

    After 36 months at Volkswagen, the hourly wage does not only exceed the future tier two wage in Detroit. There is additional shift pay, there are quarterly performance bonuses, a choice of medical plans, and a host of other benefits. Visits to the on-site doctor are free, a gym is open 24/7. A company lease program is so attractive that half of the cars on the employee parking lot are already Volkswagens, coexisting in harmony with Detroit iron.

    In July, UAW President Bob King said that organizing foreign auto plants is a matter of life and death of the union. Without a union victory in the south, “I don’t think there’s a long-term future for the UAW, I really don’t,” said King.

    After touring transplant plants in the south, we predict that any forays by the UAW will get bogged down in the red mud of Dixie. If it indeed is a matter of life and death as advertised, then the UAW is dead.

    Southern workers seem to be largely ambivalent towards the UAW. The management of southern transplants usually does not speak out against the UAW as openly as Honda did. It does not have to, the words and actions of the workers speak for themselves.

    The few times the UAW tried to unionize a transplant factory in the south ended in a debacle.

    In 2001, Nissan workers in Smyrna rejected U.A.W. representation by a 2-to-1 vote, a result branded as a “devastating defeat” by the World Socialist Website. Back then, the New York Times called the results “no better than in the union’s failed attempt to organize the same plant in 1989.” Now, the entrance to Nissan’s U.S. HQ is guarded by grim polar bears.

    The UAW can’t even count on the solidarity of its union brothers in Germany.

    A little later after the life and death announcement, the UAW revealed that it had targeted Volkswagen’s Chattanooga plant, and had meetings with the German metal workers union in order to drum up support. Those meetings were not highly successful. Soon thereafter, Bernd Osterloh, head of Volkswagen’s works council who represents labor of VW’s supervisory board, told Reuters he would not actively promote efforts by the United Auto Workers to broaden its membership in Chattanooga.
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    Oct 28, 2011 3:39 PM GMT
    The workers in that industry in the SE have not wanted to be part of the unions. While the unions have done good in the past, more workers see them today as a part of the problem. But to the Democrats and union bosses, it's really not about the workers. They are only pawns to them. To the Democrats it is all about getting union money, and to the union bosses it is all about the Democrats creating laws and regulations favorable to perpetuate power of the union bosses, even at the expense of the workers.
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    Oct 28, 2011 4:27 PM GMT
    They say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.
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    Oct 28, 2011 4:31 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.


    And this statement shows how little you understand the issues around economics, value creation and why protectionism kills jobs.
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    Oct 28, 2011 4:54 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.


    And this statement shows how little you understand the issues around economics, value creation and why protectionism kills jobs.

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    Yet another riddler statement full of fire and music signifying nothing. You're like Rudy Guiliani and his "noun verb 9/11" statements, except yours are "noun verb value creation". It's just a bunch of self-serving ideological bullshit that excuses greed and the real harm perpetrated by corporations in pursuit of a slightly higher share price. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 28, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.


    And this statement shows how little you understand the issues around economics, value creation and why protectionism kills jobs.

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    Yet another riddler statement full of fire and music signifying nothing. You're like Rudy Guiliani and his "noun verb 9/11" statements, except yours are "noun verb value creation". It's just a bunch of self-serving ideological bullshit that excuses greed and the real harm perpetrated by corporations in pursuit of a slightly higher share price. icon_lol.gif


    Just like Christian, offering no value or facts to a situation but just insulting. Typical liberal commie behavior.
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    Oct 28, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.

    Rather curious comment. Unions increasing the cost of labor is one of the factors that help push jobs overseas. Also, it may come as a complete surprise, but the workers are not as stupid as the liberal, so-called elite considers them to be.
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    Oct 28, 2011 5:41 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.

    Rather curious comment. Unions increasing the cost of labor is one of the factors that help push jobs overseas. Also, it may come as a complete surprise, but the workers are not as stupid as the liberal, so-called elite considers them to be.


    Incorrect. The need to constantly meet Wall Street profit projections and greed of executives that pushes jobs overseas.
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    Oct 28, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.

    Rather curious comment. Unions increasing the cost of labor is one of the factors that help push jobs overseas. Also, it may come as a complete surprise, but the workers are not as stupid as the liberal, so-called elite considers them to be.


    Incorrect. The need to constantly meet Wall Street profit projections and greed of executives that pushes jobs overseas.

    I said it was one of the factors. And typical use of the term "greed" to describe maintaining corporate profit which helps shareholder value, which helps teacher pension plans, et al, which are invested in corporate America.
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    Oct 28, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidThey say that until there jobs are outsourced to China, or they're forced to work overtime without additional pay, or their health insurance is taken away. And then their tune will change.

    Rather curious comment. Unions increasing the cost of labor is one of the factors that help push jobs overseas. Also, it may come as a complete surprise, but the workers are not as stupid as the liberal, so-called elite considers them to be.


    Incorrect. The need to constantly meet Wall Street profit projections and greed of executives that pushes jobs overseas.

    I said it was one of the factors. And typical use of the term "greed" to describe maintaining corporate profit which helps shareholder value, which helps teacher pension plans, et al, which are invested in corporate America.


    SoCalFitness, you need to stop with the greed, its not all about making executives rich. You need to start investing in caring.