........Boy Assaults Gay Student as Cell Phone Captures Attack

  • MadeinMich

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    Oct 29, 2011 1:28 PM GMT
    http://gma.yahoo.com/boy-assaults-gay-student-cell-phone-captures-attack-135315478.html



    http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wsyx_vid_14194.shtml



    This is really fucked up. And all the boy got was a 3 day suspension. He needs his ass wooped!!! This is why I didn't come out in school. This would have happened to me with all of the ignorant people I went to school with. I either would have ended up in a hospital or in jail. Parents of gay kids need to teach their kids how to fight and defend themselves. Its a necessity.
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    Oct 29, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    your link redirects to the forum

    http://gma.yahoo.com/boy-assaults-gay-student-cell-phone-captures-attack-135315478.html

    http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wsyx_vid_14194.shtml

    there ya go

    (second one has the video fyi)
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    Oct 29, 2011 10:11 PM GMT
    I don't understand how you don't defend yourself. I NEVER let anyone hit on me like that and I don't intend to start.


    That kid is an asshole though. Its sad seeing shit like this.
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    Oct 29, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    Somebody in Ohio needs to do a Tony Soprano on this bully. icon_evil.gif

    Are there any attorneys on this forum who might be willing to help the kid? I thought assault and battery is a felony. Restraining order? Sue for medical bills, and hopefully pain and suffering or emotional trauma.

    If these idiot school "administrators" are too clueless to protect students, the community needs to step in with an action plan that makes bullies think twice about their actions. Maybe create a "bully registry" where their names come up in a google search.
  • MadeinMich

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    Oct 30, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
    Minion saidyour link redirects to the forum

    http://gma.yahoo.com/boy-assaults-gay-student-cell-phone-captures-attack-135315478.html

    http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wsyx_vid_14194.shtml

    there ya go

    (second one has the video fyi)



    Thanks. So kind of you
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
    Repeat post.
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    Oct 30, 2011 4:22 AM GMT
    maybe it's because I call Oz home and not America, and maybe because Oz is not as violent as America either, but I have never had to fight just because I am a poofter.
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    Oct 30, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    White4DarkerFL said

    Are there any attorneys on this forum who might be willing to help the kid? I thought assault and battery is a felony. Restraining order? Sue for medical bills, and hopefully pain and suffering or emotional trauma.



    In the second link they said in the video the mother was pursuing criminal charges. Hopefully the bully gets what he deserves, since even if the assault wasn't the result of homophobia it was still a violent attack that could land this kid in serious legal trouble.


    I also find it a bit odd that the mother referred to her son as "a homosexual" instead of "gay". Even though she seems supportive, there's something about that term that makes it seem like a part of her still doesn't completely approve of homosexuality. I've only ever heard homophobic evangelicals refer to gay people as "the homosexuals." But I did notice she has a bit of a southern accent so maybe it's a southern thing...or maybe I'm reading too much into this icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 30, 2011 5:18 AM GMT
    I find it odd that bullies usually only pick on people smaller than them. I have yet to find a bully who actually picks on people their own size. This is exactly why I didn't come out in HS either. The same thing would have happened to me probably.
  • FRE0

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    Oct 30, 2011 5:30 AM GMT
    Minion saidI don't understand how you don't defend yourself. I NEVER let anyone hit on me like that and I don't intend to start.


    That kid is an asshole though. Its sad seeing shit like this.


    I explained in a previous thread on this subject why kids do not always defend themselves. That thread is still extant.
  • FRE0

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    Oct 30, 2011 5:31 AM GMT
    Minion saidI don't understand how you don't defend yourself. I NEVER let anyone hit on me like that and I don't intend to start.


    That kid is an asshole though. Its sad seeing shit like this.


    I explained in a previous thread why some kids don't defend themselves. That thread is still extant.
  • sbwlguy

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    Oct 30, 2011 10:27 AM GMT
    This makes me so angry. What on earth caused that level of hatred in that bully for gay people? The media? His parents? Is he gay himself and can't stand to see it in others?

    I clenched my teeth watching that video. I know they say violence doesn't solve anything, but...
  • MadeinMich

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    Oct 30, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    sbwlguy saidThis makes me so angry. What on earth caused that level of hatred in that bully for gay people? The media? His parents? Is he gay himself and can't stand to see it in others?

    I clenched my teeth watching that video. I know they say violence doesn't solve anything, but...


    That kid just needs his ass whooped
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    Oct 30, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    i'm not going to say much other than we've become a society of observers. If i'd been there you know what? My first thought wouldn't be "Lemme pull out my camera so people can see this kid getting beat down" my first though (bear in mind, my skinny self) would be "Oh hell no!" *dives in and elbows the bully in the ribs*
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    Oct 30, 2011 9:07 PM GMT
    can't we post more happy homosexual things?
  • shutoman

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    Oct 30, 2011 9:28 PM GMT
    That was a serious assault and criminal charges are appropriate.
  • smudgedude

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    Oct 30, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
    that kid really should have been a throat baby
  • FRE0

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    Oct 31, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    When I was about 23 and taking night classes, I lived in a large boarding house. There was a very shy kid there who was constantly harassed by the other kids. One night, when I returned, 3 kids had ganged up on him and were roughing him up.

    About a year before, I had taken up weight lifting and judo, so I was well prepared to deal with the situation. I ordered the kids to lay off. When one talked back to me, I just snapped and have no memory of what I did. However, it must have been very effective because after that, those kids were afraid of me, avoided me, and never again bothered the shy kid when I was anywhere around.

    No doubt the reason that I snapped was that when I was younger, I was constantly bullied and saw myself in the shy kid's place. Those who simply watch such situations and do nothing are just as guilty as those who do the bullying; they also deserve to be whipped.

    Kids react in different ways to being bullied. Kids tend to grow at different rates. So, sometimes a small kid who is bullied becomes a bully himself if he experiences a growth spurt. Other kids who have been bullied react differently and speak up for those who are bullied.
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    Oct 31, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    FRE0 saidWhen I was about 23 and taking night classes, I lived in a large boarding house. There was a very shy kid there who was constantly harassed by the other kids. One night, when I returned, 3 kids had ganged up on him and were roughing him up.

    About a year before, I had taken up weight lifting and judo, so I was well prepared to deal with the situation. I ordered the kids to lay off. When one talked back to me, I just snapped and have no memory of what I did. However, it must have been very effective because after that, those kids were afraid of me, avoided me, and never again bothered the shy kid when I was anywhere around.

    No doubt the reason that I snapped was that when I was younger, I was constantly bullied and saw myself in the shy kid's place. Those who simply watch such situations and do nothing are just as guilty as those who do the bullying; they also deserve to be whipped.

    Kids react in different ways to being bullied. Kids tend to grow at different rates. So, sometimes a small kid who is bullied becomes a bully himself if he experiences a growth spurt. Other kids who have been bullied react differently and speak up for those who are bullied.


    JUDO cures bullying! icon_biggrin.gif
  • irishkcguy

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    Oct 31, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidSomebody in Ohio needs to do a Tony Soprano on this bully. icon_evil.gif

    Are there any attorneys on this forum who might be willing to help the kid? I thought assault and battery is a felony. Restraining order? Sue for medical bills, and hopefully pain and suffering or emotional trauma.

    If these idiot school "administrators" are too clueless to protect students, the community needs to step in with an action plan that makes bullies think twice about their actions. Maybe create a "bully registry" where their names come up in a google search.


    I taught high school for ten years and I am a really big advocate for the parents of these kids lawyering up and going after school districts and administrators who don't do anything to protect kids. The schools I worked in were terrified of being sued and I think that's what's got to happen for districts to really address this problem.

    A question for attorneys: If school districts are found to be negligent when it comes to protecting kids from bullies, could the administrators and teachers have criminal charges brought against them?
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Oct 31, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    irishkcguy said
    White4DarkerFL saidSomebody in Ohio needs to do a Tony Soprano on this bully. icon_evil.gif

    Are there any attorneys on this forum who might be willing to help the kid? I thought assault and battery is a felony. Restraining order? Sue for medical bills, and hopefully pain and suffering or emotional trauma.

    If these idiot school "administrators" are too clueless to protect students, the community needs to step in with an action plan that makes bullies think twice about their actions. Maybe create a "bully registry" where their names come up in a google search.


    I taught high school for ten years and I am a really big advocate for the parents of these kids lawyering up and going after school districts and administrators who don't do anything to protect kids. The schools I worked in were terrified of being sued and I think that's what's got to happen for districts to really address this problem.

    A question for attorneys: If school districts are found to be negligent when it comes to protecting kids from bullies, could the administrators and teachers have criminal charges brought against them?

    That's actually a great question, Irish. While I am not even close to a lawyer, I would assume that they couldn't bring up charges in retrograde, but perhaps moving forward people in these positions could eventually be charged.
  • irishkcguy

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    Oct 31, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
    BeingThePhoenix said
    irishkcguy said
    White4DarkerFL saidSomebody in Ohio needs to do a Tony Soprano on this bully. icon_evil.gif

    Are there any attorneys on this forum who might be willing to help the kid? I thought assault and battery is a felony. Restraining order? Sue for medical bills, and hopefully pain and suffering or emotional trauma.

    If these idiot school "administrators" are too clueless to protect students, the community needs to step in with an action plan that makes bullies think twice about their actions. Maybe create a "bully registry" where their names come up in a google search.


    I taught high school for ten years and I am a really big advocate for the parents of these kids lawyering up and going after school districts and administrators who don't do anything to protect kids. The schools I worked in were terrified of being sued and I think that's what's got to happen for districts to really address this problem.

    A question for attorneys: If school districts are found to be negligent when it comes to protecting kids from bullies, could the administrators and teachers have criminal charges brought against them?

    That's actually a great question, Irish. While I am not even close to a lawyer, I would assume that they couldn't bring up charges in retrograde, but perhaps moving forward people in these positions could eventually be charged.


    If principals feared jail time for not doing what they can to stop these bullies this shit would go away pretty fast.
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Oct 31, 2011 9:42 PM GMT
    irishkcguy said
    BeingThePhoenix said
    irishkcguy said
    White4DarkerFL saidSomebody in Ohio needs to do a Tony Soprano on this bully. icon_evil.gif

    Are there any attorneys on this forum who might be willing to help the kid? I thought assault and battery is a felony. Restraining order? Sue for medical bills, and hopefully pain and suffering or emotional trauma.

    If these idiot school "administrators" are too clueless to protect students, the community needs to step in with an action plan that makes bullies think twice about their actions. Maybe create a "bully registry" where their names come up in a google search.


    I taught high school for ten years and I am a really big advocate for the parents of these kids lawyering up and going after school districts and administrators who don't do anything to protect kids. The schools I worked in were terrified of being sued and I think that's what's got to happen for districts to really address this problem.

    A question for attorneys: If school districts are found to be negligent when it comes to protecting kids from bullies, could the administrators and teachers have criminal charges brought against them?

    That's actually a great question, Irish. While I am not even close to a lawyer, I would assume that they couldn't bring up charges in retrograde, but perhaps moving forward people in these positions could eventually be charged.


    If principals feared jail time for not doing what they can to stop these bullies this shit would go away pretty fast.

    I completely agree.
  • FRE0

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    Nov 01, 2011 4:02 AM GMT
    If you do a google search on bullying and related matters, you will find plenty. There are even organizations and programs to prevent bullying. School personnel who claim that they cannot do anything ought to know better; there is plenty of helpful information available.
    When forced to do something, somehow they find that they can.

    There have been well-publicized cases in which victims of bullying have taken weapons to school and killed many students and teachers. That seems to have got the attention of school authorities in some areas. They may not care what happens to bullied students, but they do care when the school suffers consequences which result in international publicity.

    When I was bullied at a boarding school during my junior and senior years, I felt helpless to do anything about it. My first roommate even attempted to bully me sexually. He tried "grooming" me by stating that at another boarding school, the juniors had to give the seniors their "blow jobs;" I saw through that immediately. He was not successful in getting me to give him a "blow job." By some ruse, he got a sophomore into the room and attempted to force him to give a "blow job." The kid was almost crying and, when I saw that he couldn't deal with it, I got up from my desk, put my hand on the door knob, and said, "Tom, this has gone far enough." That stopped it; obviously he couldn't continue if I opened the door.

    My fear was that if I reported that sort of thing, I could have been accused of something; it would have been his word against mine. And, I didn't dare tell my parents; that also could have backfired. I did manage to change rooms, which helped, but still there were other problems which at that time in my life I could not handle adequately.

    As a result of my experiences at a boarding school, I strongly advise parents NOT to send their kids to a boarding school below the college level. Too many bad things can happen and the parents may never know about them. If, for some reason there is no reasonable alternative to a boarding school, then parents should make sure that they can communicate well with their kids and that the kids will feel free to tell their parents about anything that disturbs them.
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    Nov 02, 2011 11:49 PM GMT
    ..wish a bitch would try something like this on me in school...but i always pray for the victims of hate crimes..THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS